A kindergartner not being able to make up work after an absence is not a huge deal. It is a huge deal for a student taking a high school class needed for graduation. |
There is a way for us to do that at teachers. In synergy we can add a comment or note to the student's profile where we can indicate that the student arrived at a specific time. Some teachers in my school are really good about doing that, especially for students with documented issues with attendance. |
I'm not following. Is this not how things were when you were a kid? High Schools have an attendance secretary who puts the parent phone calls/notes into the system. It's not hard and could even be mostly automated, with parents put in an electronic absence. The reason it's a mess right now is that there's been literally no distinction (at our school at least) between excused and unexcused. So parents (I) don't even inform the school most of the time. And when I remember to send the kid with a note upon return, the kid also never turns it in. Why bother? If they tell me it will matter, I'll start doing it again. If a kid is tardy and it's recorded as an absence, the kid approaches the teacher to fix it (and hopefully tries not to be tardy in the future). There's no 'scale' problem. There's only a problem of kids not tracking their absences, and it would be a good thing to teach them this responsibility. |
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The grading and reporting regulation is not about excused vs. unexcused. Even work for unexcused absences can be made up. It's about whether a student is on campus but skipping class. Here is a link to the version for comment:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19cDQr7J7LodmaYl2hkqHTFsrtbGxBML4/view See (f) on page 13. "Allowing makeup work, regardless of most reasons for the student's absence. Students found to be in school and skipping classes will not be provided the makeup work opportunity and will receive a zero for the assignment/assessment. School administration will work collaboratively with the teacher to make the final determination of whether the class skipping infraction and the related consequences should apply." |
So they are saying they were there, but the sub messed up and marked them absent? Then this one should be easy. If they were there then they would have turned in the work and it can be graded. If they were there but were skipping class, then the work wouldn't be turned in. |
So if the kid is skipping school but is not caught red handed roaming the halls but instead walked out of the building and it’s just an unidentified unexcused absence, then teacher would have to allow the make up? |
By my read, if the teacher suspects the kid of skipping, they would have to bring it to the administration, which would make the determination. |
Almost all assignments are posted on Canvas. You can skip class and still have access to whatever was done in class. |
Yes, but then it wouldn't be late. The issue that the new reg seems to be addressing is kids having a quiz/test, being at school, not being prepared, and just skipping class so they can take it later. |
Or skipping class so they can learn from a friend what was on it and cheat. |
I didn’t address the staff errors because that is an anomaly. Could it happen? Sure. But most of the time, we assign work, and I can check to see if your kid did it (or part of it). If it’s a true error, or we don’t want to deal with a parent’s complaining, we just change it. Normally, major All Tasks aren’t given with a sub, so the work given would have little to no impact on their grade if there was an error. To address another PP with an actual valid claim, we can tell if they are skipping if it is either 1) unexcused or 2) they were marked present for some classes and not ours. If they are absent all day or leave for part of the day for an appointment, that must get excused. I think people on this thread forget that most of these kids are still minors. Parents have the responsibility to let the school know if the kid is out for a valid reason. And for the people on here saying it’s inequitable… the parents who are lazy or just willfully don’t want to learn need to step up. That’s actually your job as a parent. And if it’s language related, that’s also a moot point as most school personnel are bilingual and we have translation services. For kids who skip to work a job, those students need to be tracked to a different program (internship, GED, etc). We have to stop letting our students fail, cheat their way through credit recovery, and expect them, at the same time, to leave with an actual education that prepares them for college or a career |
| We have many students who get randomly pulled out of school for a week to 3 weeks to visit their home country. I assume parents don’t go during winter break because tickets are expensive. Instead they will pull the kids in Feb or March. It is a real pain because kids miss a lot of stuff. These are unexcused absences. Any idea how these will be dealt with? |
Technically once they hit 10 days, the school is supposed to unenroll them and they are required to re-enroll to return to school. I had that happen to several of my students this year. Sometimes the parents just don't re-enroll them though |
That’s interesting. Our school only applies the 10 day rule sporadically. They seem to monitor attendance more closely in the first couple of months to disenroll no-shows but then they seem to move on to other things |
| Plenty of parents are picking kids up without signing the kid out. The kid just walks out of the building. Or the kid is just leaving the building when they feel like it. These are unexcused absences and should be marked as skipping. |