Senior Feds Sharing Offices

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Corporate America was complaining about open offices back in 2015! Though I guess it helped ventilation for flatulence…

https://www.fastcompany.com/3040477/how-your-miserable-open-office-might-change-this-year

The Feds were the only ones still clinging to offices in pre war building and cubicles in most other places. So sharing an office is still way way better than the cacophony of open offices “synergistic” environment.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand why everyone is giving OP such a hard time. I have a cubicle, and, with the walls, it actually gives me some semblance of privacy. I would much prefer it to a shared office - especially a shared office that was only intended for one.

[Anonymous]

We have hoteling. You book by the pay period. As a GS-15 if I book when my window opens up I can get an office. But if I forget or have a schedule change I'm in a work station basically in the middle of the hallway with someone directly behind me. SES have an assigned office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why everyone is giving OP such a hard time. I have a cubicle, and, with the walls, it actually gives me some semblance of privacy. I would much prefer it to a shared office - especially a shared office that was only intended for one.

I guess I just don’t care that much about my own office. I’m at work to conduct companies business, it’s not like it’s “private” anyways.

It sounds like you and OP just want a private office to goof off and do your own personal studf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A significant number of people change clothes in their offices. The last time I worked someplace with predominantly cubes, they had to provide little wardrobes in the cubes and a certain number of locking offices to use as changing rooms, because the restrooms couldn't accommodate.

What? No! Figure it out people. You are adults. Even my agency has a small locker room.

[Anonymous]

My worst space ever as a fed was in a windowless filing room with 3 shoved into it, no ventilation, and one partially blocked means of egress. I’m fairly certain I would have died in a fire.

[Anonymous]

Wow, op, however will you manage. This is the worst thing to ever happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

Let's be real, op is not going to quit over this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My worst space ever as a fed was in a windowless filing room with 3 shoved into it, no ventilation, and one partially blocked means of egress. I’m fairly certain I would have died in a fire.

Half of the people here would read that and use “well, okay, but did you die in a fire?” as the new benchmark for whether a person can complain about their office arrangement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My worst space ever as a fed was in a windowless filing room with 3 shoved into it, no ventilation, and one partially blocked means of egress. I’m fairly certain I would have died in a fire.

Half of the people here would read that and use “well, okay, but did you die in a fire?” as the new benchmark for whether a person can complain about their office arrangement.

But did you die?

[Anonymous]

I think it depends. Our jobs involve a lot of conference calls, and it would drive me crazy for that reason. At a prior job, there was more time spent on research and writing, and sharing would have been okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just found out that our federal agency is losing space one year from today. Will mean many employees will have to share offices. I’ve been working for over 20 years. I can’t imagine working in the office every day and sharing an office.

Feds who are already there - how is it going and how are you managing it? Should I give myself 1 year to leave?

lol