Senior Feds Sharing Offices

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I was sharing a cubicle before I left and I don't have any problem with OP asking this question. Everyone has their own things they care about. And I was sharing a cubicle for the same reason they'll be sharing an office, and it wasn't that the people I worked for were trying to make us more productive.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

Let's be real, op is not going to quit over this.

I am OP. I asked what I thought was a simple question and then watched this thread become a nasty competition of who can be the most dismissive.

I actually might quit, I don’t know. My income as a fed is a tiny fraction of my household income and I’ve been trying to make it work for the sake of my career. I’m finding it harder and harder to do so because (1) it’s taking away too much from my family and (2) I find it hard to motivate myself in an environment where leadership has a brazen indifference to staff.

Whether or not I quit, though, has nothing to do with the genuine question I asked. But thanks for your opinion anyways.

Oh of course you like to complain, you don’t actually need your job because you married into wealth.

The reek of jealousy coming off of you if overpowering.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

Let's be real, op is not going to quit over this.

I am OP. I asked what I thought was a simple question and then watched this thread become a nasty competition of who can be the most dismissive.

I actually might quit, I don’t know. My income as a fed is a tiny fraction of my household income and I’ve been trying to make it work for the sake of my career. I’m finding it harder and harder to do so because (1) it’s taking away too much from my family and (2) I find it hard to motivate myself in an environment where leadership has a brazen indifference to staff.

Whether or not I quit, though, has nothing to do with the genuine question I asked. But thanks for your opinion anyways.

Oh of course you like to complain, you don’t actually need your job because you married into wealth.

The reek of jealousy coming off of you if overpowering.

I didn’t post this but this is kind of a snotty response. The elitism coming off you is overpowering. And, also really out of touch.

In your mind, it must be jealousy, right? It can’t be that OP just doesn’t have to think about the same things most normal income people who have to work are thinking of. Which extends into what you may or may not be complaining about.

It makes sense that when work is optional, perspectives about what is bothersome enough to quit over are very different than most average workers.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

Let's be real, op is not going to quit over this.

I am OP. I asked what I thought was a simple question and then watched this thread become a nasty competition of who can be the most dismissive.

I actually might quit, I don’t know. My income as a fed is a tiny fraction of my household income and I’ve been trying to make it work for the sake of my career. I’m finding it harder and harder to do so because (1) it’s taking away too much from my family and (2) I find it hard to motivate myself in an environment where leadership has a brazen indifference to staff.

Whether or not I quit, though, has nothing to do with the genuine question I asked. But thanks for your opinion anyways.

Oh of course you like to complain, you don’t actually need your job because you married into wealth.

And those are the people who should speak up, because others in worse financial situations are afraid to.

[Anonymous]

Some people on here really want to eat the rich in order to protect the uber-rich that are intentionally inflicting pain on all of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

Let's be real, op is not going to quit over this.

I am OP. I asked what I thought was a simple question and then watched this thread become a nasty competition of who can be the most dismissive.

I actually might quit, I don’t know. My income as a fed is a tiny fraction of my household income and I’ve been trying to make it work for the sake of my career. I’m finding it harder and harder to do so because (1) it’s taking away too much from my family and (2) I find it hard to motivate myself in an environment where leadership has a brazen indifference to staff.

Whether or not I quit, though, has nothing to do with the genuine question I asked. But thanks for your opinion anyways.

Oh of course you like to complain, you don’t actually need your job because you married into wealth.

The reek of jealousy coming off of you if overpowering.

I didn’t post this but this is kind of a snotty response. The elitism coming off you is overpowering. And, also really out of touch.

In your mind, it must be jealousy, right? It can’t be that OP just doesn’t have to think about the same things most normal income people who have to work are thinking of. Which extends into what you may or may not be complaining about.

It makes sense that when work is optional, perspectives about what is bothersome enough to quit over are very different than most average workers.

All of that might have been true. But then PP had to start the comment with “Oh, of course you like to complain…”. So, no, it wasn’t an innocent comment and deserved to get smacked down. And I’m not particularly bothered if it struck a nerve with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you from the CFTC? I’ve heard they mostly have their own offices there and when they move to the SEC’s building in the next year or so they will have to share. I’ve also heard they are a bunch of divas who are likely to pitch a fit about this.

Most people either share an office or have cubes. That goes for gov and non gov. It’s not a big deal. It’s noisy and a PITA and sometimes your office mate can’t get to the restroom and lets a stinky one rip. Eventually, you get used to it.

People who normalize things like this should be first in line for shared office space.

The whole “you should deal with it because other people deal with it” mentality is what has driven benefits and job security to be cut repeatedly for decades across industries. It’s exactly what managements everywhere want their employees to say.

Is IS normal. And I do share an office like the vast majority of Americans. It is a stretch to say that someone who chooses not to complain about having to share an office is the downfall of American worker pay and benefits. You sound really out of touch.

No, sorry, the out of touch person here is the one normalizing their co-workers farting around them and saying “it’s not a big deal” and “eventually you get used to it.”

The second part about benefits is not about complaining about the office, it’s about the attitude of blindly accepting things that suck and assuming “that’s just how it is.” That’s how it is because you all don’t do anything about it, and you call people who do “a bunch of divas.”

Enjoy your fart cubicles.

Most Americans don’t care about offices and are just trying to feed their families and pay bills. American workers are not going to go on a mass strike because office sharing is the hill to die on when it comes to untenable working conditions or declines in pay and benefits. That is why your complaining sounds out of touch. It wouldn’t be the globalization of manufacturing or the outsourcing of professional jobs to India, for example, where they will happily work in crowded offices. It’s not the evolution of corporations as people or Super PACs funding politicians and then lobbying for worker unfriendly policies. There are bigger issues than your solo or shared office working conditions.

Except, as I already said once, it’s not about complaining about the office but about simply accepting crap from your employer and then expecting other people to as well. Whether it is office space or cuts to leave/retirement benefits or whatever else.

Again, I’m not OP, I don’t know what you’re talking about with “your complaining.” I have an office so I’m not complaining. But I sympathize with people getting downgraded to crappier situations.

OP basically said they were going to quit over it. People are calling that an overreaction. Yeah it sucks, but I consider the rising cost of health insurance premiums and lower raises a much bigger deal

Let's be real, op is not going to quit over this.

I am OP. I asked what I thought was a simple question and then watched this thread become a nasty competition of who can be the most dismissive.

I actually might quit, I don’t know. My income as a fed is a tiny fraction of my household income and I’ve been trying to make it work for the sake of my career. I’m finding it harder and harder to do so because (1) it’s taking away too much from my family and (2) I find it hard to motivate myself in an environment where leadership has a brazen indifference to staff.

Whether or not I quit, though, has nothing to do with the genuine question I asked. But thanks for your opinion anyways.

Ignore the haters, OP. I’d be pissed too.

[Anonymous]

Some people on here really want to eat the rich in order to protect the uber-rich that are intentionally inflicting pain on all of us.

Nobody wants that. However, for example, I would not complain to my cleaning person that I didn't get the usual $1,500 bonus that I got for the past several years. I also dislike sharing an office, but OP saying that they are considering quitting over this because they don't need the money comes across a bit tone deaf.