Garbage Truck that killed cyclist in Petworth still not identified? What's going on?

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Arlington had a death where a truck hit the open door which then impacted the mom leaning into the car.

https://wjla.com/news/local/truck-driver-charged-in-death-of-arlington-mom-jennifer-lawson-102066

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I don't believe the bus driver who killed Allie Hart was ever charged... DC does not seem aggressive in pursuing manslaughter charges

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe the bus driver who killed Allie Hart was ever charged... DC does not seem aggressive in pursuing manslaughter charges

In 2024, an elderly pedestrian was killed while crossing Foxhall Rd NW on the crosswalk with the light. The driver who hit the pedestrian (and knocked her something like 100 feet) had thousands (I don’t recall exactly how much but it was around $4k) in unpaid camera tickets.

The USAO declined to bring charges and, in the end, the DC AG allowed the driver to plead to “failure to yield”, which carried a $50 fine, a hundred or so hours of community service, and a year or so of probation. I don’t think the driver was even required to pay their outstanding fines.

I imagine that the USAO / DC AG would defend such a weak outcome on the grounds that a DC jury would never have convicted for manslaughter etc.. If so, this points to a need for the DC Council to rewrite the law so that people who kill or severely injure people on DC streets through negligent driving can be appropriately punished.

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I wasn’t an eyewitness to the hit and run being discussed here, but I have been living, driving, walking, and biking through that intersection for close to 20 years.
It’s extremely dangerous due to the short intersection on Upshur between Kansas and Georgia, and it’s on the diagonal which seems to glitch everyone’s brain. Add to that the foot and bike traffic from the library and the 2 schools that are just a block north, it’s absolute chaos from 3:15-6pm.
I have written JLG about this intersection multiple times. The kids run into the street, ride the e-bikes like they have no cares in the world while drivers run red lights trying to make it through without having to stop for another cycle.
The whole thing in a constant accident waiting to happen and yet there’s never been crossing guards anywhere. For a moment they had “safe passage” people working there but they mostly just sat on the brick ledge by the library.
This was preventable and my heart goes out to the family.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington had a death where a truck hit the open door which then impacted the mom leaning into the car.

https://wjla.com/news/local/truck-driver-charged-in-death-of-arlington-mom-jennifer-lawson-102066

Jennifer was a friend of mine (and very likley others here). Her death was a horrible tragedy but the drivers stopped and called the police.

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Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t an eyewitness to the hit and run being discussed here, but I have been living, driving, walking, and biking through that intersection for close to 20 years.
It’s extremely dangerous due to the short intersection on Upshur between Kansas and Georgia, and it’s on the diagonal which seems to glitch everyone’s brain. Add to that the foot and bike traffic from the library and the 2 schools that are just a block north, it’s absolute chaos from 3:15-6pm.
I have written JLG about this intersection multiple times. The kids run into the street, ride the e-bikes like they have no cares in the world while drivers run red lights trying to make it through without having to stop for another cycle.
The whole thing in a constant accident waiting to happen and yet there’s never been crossing guards anywhere. For a moment they had “safe passage” people working there but they mostly just sat on the brick ledge by the library.
This was preventable and my heart goes out to the family.

Ban bikes on the road there.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand why he isn't charged for manslaughter. Of course this was not intentional, but it still led to a death. The driver needs legal consequences.

From the description of events, it isn't clear he ever saw them or knew he hit them.

So he just drove off and ditched his truck for funsies. Sounds very normal and not sociopathic, so par for the course for drivers in this area.

Perhaps the driver was an undocumented american, and feared they would be deported for what was basically an accident that was the fault of the cyclist. And it was. Cyclists shouldn’t go zooming past vehicles about to make a right turn on their right side. That’s like Bike-101. Stupid.


But if the driver feared being taken into ICE custody and separated from his family just because a cyclist did something dumb, I can totally understand and forgive them for leaving the scene. Someone else does something stupid and now YOU get deported? That’s BS.

Why jump to conclusions when you can manifest assumptions out of thin air.

Unless you were an eye witness to the crash (not an accident), you are an irresponsible nincompoop for peddling baseless rumors.

We don't know for certain, but it isn't baseless. That's what the police have described.

Not in any report that I’ve read. If you have other sources, cite them. Or else stop peddling shit you made up.

It's in the OP!

MPD officials said its Major Crash investigations unit determined the trash truck and the e-bike were traveling northeast on Kansas Avenue and came to the intersection with Upshur Street at the same time. Investigators said the truck made a right turn onto Upshur Street when the front right section of the vehicle hit the e-bike.

There's no great mystery here.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand why he isn't charged for manslaughter. Of course this was not intentional, but it still led to a death. The driver needs legal consequences.

From the description of events, it isn't clear he ever saw them or knew he hit them.

So he just drove off and ditched his truck for funsies. Sounds very normal and not sociopathic, so par for the course for drivers in this area.

Perhaps the driver was an undocumented american, and feared they would be deported for what was basically an accident that was the fault of the cyclist. And it was. Cyclists shouldn’t go zooming past vehicles about to make a right turn on their right side. That’s like Bike-101. Stupid.


But if the driver feared being taken into ICE custody and separated from his family just because a cyclist did something dumb, I can totally understand and forgive them for leaving the scene. Someone else does something stupid and now YOU get deported? That’s BS.

Why jump to conclusions when you can manifest assumptions out of thin air.

Unless you were an eye witness to the crash (not an accident), you are an irresponsible nincompoop for peddling baseless rumors.

We don't know for certain, but it isn't baseless. That's what the police have described.

Not in any report that I’ve read. If you have other sources, cite them. Or else stop peddling shit you made up.

It's in the OP!

MPD officials said its Major Crash investigations unit determined the trash truck and the e-bike were traveling northeast on Kansas Avenue and came to the intersection with Upshur Street at the same time. Investigators said the truck made a right turn onto Upshur Street when the front right section of the vehicle hit the e-bike.

There's no great mystery here.

So you think those facts justify this conclusion?:

“Cyclists shouldn’t go zooming past vehicles about to make a right turn on their right side. That’s like Bike-101. Stupid.”

If so, that is straight up bananas and puts your bias on display for the world to see.

If the e-bike and the truck arrived at the intersection at the same time and the e-bike is going straight, the e-bike has the right of way.

As was noted earlier, there is even a bright yellow sign on Kansas at that intersection instructing drivers to give way to cyclists and pedestrians.

There is only one scenario in which the crash is not the drivers fault and that was if the cyclist(s) had been essentially hiding behind the truck and then jumped out on the right side just as the truck was turning. In any other scenario, the driver should have been well aware (either by checking their right mirror or by having passed the cyclist) that the cyclist was on their right and given way to them as they are explicitly instructed to do.

But we don’t know exactly what happened and so I am not going to blame either party for the crash until I get more facts.

It’s appalling and disgusting how eager some of y’all are to manifest baseless assumptions to justify your desperate need to believe that any cyclist who is killed must be responsible for their own death.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand why he isn't charged for manslaughter. Of course this was not intentional, but it still led to a death. The driver needs legal consequences.

From the description of events, it isn't clear he ever saw them or knew he hit them.

So he just drove off and ditched his truck for funsies. Sounds very normal and not sociopathic, so par for the course for drivers in this area.

Perhaps the driver was an undocumented american, and feared they would be deported for what was basically an accident that was the fault of the cyclist. And it was. Cyclists shouldn’t go zooming past vehicles about to make a right turn on their right side. That’s like Bike-101. Stupid.


But if the driver feared being taken into ICE custody and separated from his family just because a cyclist did something dumb, I can totally understand and forgive them for leaving the scene. Someone else does something stupid and now YOU get deported? That’s BS.

Why jump to conclusions when you can manifest assumptions out of thin air.

Unless you were an eye witness to the crash (not an accident), you are an irresponsible nincompoop for peddling baseless rumors.

Although we get plenty of baseless assumptions about how everything is always the driver's fault. Also, we can please stop with this stupid crash/accident nomenclature bullshit? It's very tedious.

If you don’t understand the distinction between an accident and a crash and why most vehicular crashes aren’t accidents, I can only be sorry that you received such a poor quality education.

[Anonymous]

It's weird when someone who committed a crime isn't identified.
It happens a lot if you're paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:
Ban bikes on the road there.

Ban cars

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Ban bikes on the road there.

Ban cars

What about garbage trucks? Are you going to collect it with your bike?

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Anonymous wrote:It's weird when someone who committed a crime isn't identified.
It happens a lot if you're paying attention.

They did. Kenny Jimmenez Rivera, 26, of Northwest D.C.

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Anonymous wrote:It's weird when someone who committed a crime isn't identified.
It happens a lot if you're paying attention.

They did. Kenny Jimmenez Rivera, 26, of Northwest D.C.

Reading is hard for you, isn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:I do not understand why he isn't charged for manslaughter. Of course this was not intentional, but it still led to a death. The driver needs legal consequences.

From the description of events, it isn't clear he ever saw them or knew he hit them.

So he just drove off and ditched his truck for funsies. Sounds very normal and not sociopathic, so par for the course for drivers in this area.

Perhaps the driver was an undocumented american, and feared they would be deported for what was basically an accident that was the fault of the cyclist. And it was. Cyclists shouldn’t go zooming past vehicles about to make a right turn on their right side. That’s like Bike-101. Stupid.


But if the driver feared being taken into ICE custody and separated from his family just because a cyclist did something dumb, I can totally understand and forgive them for leaving the scene. Someone else does something stupid and now YOU get deported? That’s BS.

Why jump to conclusions when you can manifest assumptions out of thin air.

Unless you were an eye witness to the crash (not an accident), you are an irresponsible nincompoop for peddling baseless rumors.

Although we get plenty of baseless assumptions about how everything is always the driver's fault. Also, we can please stop with this stupid crash/accident nomenclature bullshit? It's very tedious.

If you don’t understand the distinction between an accident and a crash and why most vehicular crashes aren’t accidents, I can only be sorry that you received such a poor quality education.

This is one of cyclists' many weird shibboleths.