What percentage of rich, famous and powerful are evil and corrupt?

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Anonymous wrote:The recent Grammys showcased these people.

It was a room full of pedophiles protesting against ICE deporting pedophiles.

😂

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Anonymous wrote:I think about 70% of all people have deep character flaws that will, with opportunity, lead to evil behavior. Maybe 80%. I think a lot of times it starts as a seemingly small, even harmless, quality. Sometimes it might be something others even appreciate or admire, like over-confidence or an ability to twist situations to their advantage while being charming.

The more powerful a person is, the more opportunities they have to allow these character flaws to do harm. So I'd guess about 70-80% of all rich and powerful people do evil or deeply harmful things. Maybe let's assume that having these sorts of character flaws has a tendency to facilitate the acquisition of money and power, so maybe it's 90%.

But here's the thing:

If you took these people and made them the regional manager of a local grocery chain, they'd pull the same crap. Just on a smaller scale, harming fewer people. Fewer opportunities to do so much evil, but they'll still do *some* evil because even a regional manager of a grocery chain has some power, and people will exploit power.

Some of the worst people I've ever met in my life were small business owners and middle managers. Thank god they aren't billionaires or senators! And yet, also, the people who are billionaires and senators are not very different from them, sadly.

That looks like a good reason to not allow anyone to ever become a billionaire! When will people wake up to the fact that it is not in societies best interest to allow such extreme wealth gaps?

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein files are painting a picture that every rich, famous and powerful man is corrupt at minimum and evil on average. In your opinion , what percentage of such men are moral and ethical?

Epstein files’ most recent release reveled: lots of Satanists. As in: numerous Epstein associates actively worship Satan.

Not atheists; an atheist is just an atheist. Atheists deny the existence of Satan just as much as any god.

Epstein’s associates are religiously Satan-worshipers. It is in the newest files.

This makes perfect sense though. No person with a conscience could exploit others on a daily basis needed to make that kind of money / accumulate that much power. Unless:

- unless your belief system was so upside down as to think exploitation was good and a virtue.

Clandestine satanism is probably much more common than we realize.

agree with the bolded and what is clandestine satanism other than the ingrained belief in ones own inherent superiority giving one the right to brutally exploit others. i'd also argue that the idea that there isn't enough to go round and ppl are justified in brutality towards other groups in order to survive when there patently is enough to go around and ppl just need to share & increase their tolerance for "out groups". it doesn't have to be an overt satatan worship- "satanism" is a concept of rejecting the personhood and equality of all peoples.

Agree; and it makes perfect sense Epstein would end up surrounded by people who were not only “willing to do wrong” to get ahead. These obscenely wealthy people literally believe: evil is good. A Satanist’s value system is to do evil, do harm, destroy. Of course they flock together.

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I have met uber wealthy donors when I worked for a nonprofit and in university administration, occasionally at embassies where they blew in to have lunch with the ambassador (for kicks you can search that Epstein database for the word “ambassador” to see who rolled out the red carpet for the pedophile). In short I have witnessed that dynamic where some rich guy or rich dude shows up and everybody bows and scrapes and treats everything they say as brilliant. Physicists have to sit and listen to that dude expound on his theory because he read one physics article . Like those scenes in succession where people have to pretend that Connor’s wife’s play is going to win a Tony Award. The rich have a distorted view of their intellect, their contributions to the world, their importance because they get this treatment everywhere they go. And yeah I recognized a couple of names from the list from our nonprofit.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein files are painting a picture that every rich, famous and powerful man is corrupt at minimum and evil on average. In your opinion , what percentage of such men are moral and ethical?

I find it very interesting most of those surrounding Epstein are democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein files are painting a picture that every rich, famous and powerful man is corrupt at minimum and evil on average. In your opinion , what percentage of such men are moral and ethical?

I find it very interesting most of those surrounding Epstein are democrats.

A brief review of modern history tends to suggest leftists, while proclaiming altruism, tend to commit most of the evil. Take Cambodia, for example, where huge percentages of the population were slaughtered (including infants). Or the Stalinist pogroms, including the Holdomor, plus the gulag system. Or Mao’s cultural revolution. Or the USSR, where an escape attempt meant death. That is still the case in Marxist North Korea.

On balance, the leftists have murdered far more humans in the name of political ideology than any other group.

And that is ultimately evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion has always been basically a financial scam, method for population control and cover for crimes to be committed against the more vulnerable

No discrimination. It's all religions, all of them

All of them have been co-opted by people with ulterior motives

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Anonymous wrote:Rich: Nearly all. 95+%. You basically have to be exploiting people to be rich. (I assume by rich here you mean net worths of like $10 million + or annual income above seven figures, not just like $500k income good savers or people whose parents left than $1 million).

Powerful: Well, a lot of powerful people are rich. For those folks, see above. For powerful, non-rich people (mostly political power at that point): 50%? Being evil and/or corrupt is a good way to become powerful, but you can also be persuasive and passionate. Thinking about, for example, recent presidential candidates, I wouldn't call Biden, Harris, Romney, McCain, Obama, Clinton, or either Bush "evil" or "corrupt" - even though I disagreed with many of their policies and many of them did pretty shitty things. I actually think you see more evil and corruption in the senate - large numbers there. The House is a mix. Supreme Court - currently a mix, historically majority non-evil/non-corrupt.

Famous: Mostly non-evil. Most of the famous are performers or athletes. I'd actually say most of your non-evil rich people are the famous performers. Musicians, famous sports people, your big influencers. Yeah, a decent amount are evil/corrupt, but less than the above categories. Lots of them got to the top honestly. I'd say 30%?

Overall population evil/corrupt: <5%

Tuh

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Anonymous wrote:I think to get to a lot of those levels, men and women have to have a certain level of sociopathic/psychopathic behavior. There is a lot behind the scenes that's necessary to get to that level, and you don't get there by being nice and morally right to everyone.

I think this sort of thing is like an addiction. Like, they keep needing more and more (money, sex, drugs) to feel something. And at some point 1-1 relationships seem boring. So, they keep ramping it up because they have everything at their easy access. They need something more extreme to feel something and to feel special/have things others don't have. In no way excusing it, it's horrible, but I don't think these people all start off as bad people. Even look at the first wives and children of some of these folks - seem like normal, decent people. But more recent decisions seem in line with just wanting more, more, more.

+1 Melinda is a breath of fresh air and so is Mackenzie.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve known 2 men who were billionaires (met thru work/worked with them).

First one was a jerk. Was used to yelling and intimidating everyone to get his way. The first day I met him, he yelled and me and cussed me out for something I had literally nothing to do with (think, like, a bird pooped on his car). Extremely controlling of his wife. I could tell he viewed her more as a possession and beneath him.

Second one was a great, great guy. Extremely chill, kind, strong moral code, absolutely devoted to his wife. I actually felt kind of bad for him, his wife was often pretty mean to him.

The second one is a good example of how even if you aren't evil if you are famous, rich, or powerful, the hangers-on around you probably are. I went to school with some people who were extremely wealthy (billionaire heirs) or famous, and the people who surrounded them were uniformly terrible, even if the person was ok.

So rich people have a thing where they like to maintain the appearance of magnanimity and graciousness all while not having to bother about the business of being the bad guy. Those tagalongs are doing the bidding of their rich friends.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein files are painting a picture that every rich, famous and powerful man is corrupt at minimum and evil on average. In your opinion , what percentage of such men are moral and ethical?

I find it very interesting most of those surrounding Epstein are democrats.

A brief review of modern history tends to suggest leftists, while proclaiming altruism, tend to commit most of the evil. Take Cambodia, for example, where huge percentages of the population were slaughtered (including infants). Or the Stalinist pogroms, including the Holdomor, plus the gulag system. Or Mao’s cultural revolution. Or the USSR, where an escape attempt meant death. That is still the case in Marxist North Korea.

On balance, the leftists have murdered far more humans in the name of political ideology than any other group.

And that is ultimately evil.

Well when their political ideology boils down to absolute power sans the generation of wealth with capitalism, you get what you get. Takers.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein files are painting a picture that every rich, famous and powerful man is corrupt at minimum and evil on average. In your opinion , what percentage of such men are moral and ethical?

every corporate leader that I have met are narcissists and capable of lying to anyone if they can make a buck.

I debated whether the system corrupts people or it acts like a filter and only the narcissists rise to the top, and I have concluded it it the latter.

if you see someone with an MBA or JD, you know this person has been taught by the best and knows how to lie.

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All billionaires. Most corporate leaders, hiding behind shareholder duty. A higher percentage than background population but not majority of the famous.

Inherited wealth, a lack of empathy and understanding of normal people but not necessarily evil just indifferent.

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Anonymous wrote:I have met uber wealthy donors when I worked for a nonprofit and in university administration, occasionally at embassies where they blew in to have lunch with the ambassador (for kicks you can search that Epstein database for the word “ambassador” to see who rolled out the red carpet for the pedophile). In short I have witnessed that dynamic where some rich guy or rich dude shows up and everybody bows and scrapes and treats everything they say as brilliant. Physicists have to sit and listen to that dude expound on his theory because he read one physics article . Like those scenes in succession where people have to pretend that Connor’s wife’s play is going to win a Tony Award. The rich have a distorted view of their intellect, their contributions to the world, their importance because they get this treatment everywhere they go. And yeah I recognized a couple of names from the list from our nonprofit.

Very true.
I think being fawned over is a motivation for a lot of people who want power. I also think a lot of men want power so they can get women. It's so simple but true, and the women are expected to fawn over them too. The Emperor's New Clothes is the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve known 2 men who were billionaires (met thru work/worked with them).

First one was a jerk. Was used to yelling and intimidating everyone to get his way. The first day I met him, he yelled and me and cussed me out for something I had literally nothing to do with (think, like, a bird pooped on his car). Extremely controlling of his wife. I could tell he viewed her more as a possession and beneath him.

Second one was a great, great guy. Extremely chill, kind, strong moral code, absolutely devoted to his wife. I actually felt kind of bad for him, his wife was often pretty mean to him.

The second one is a good example of how even if you aren't evil if you are famous, rich, or powerful, the hangers-on around you probably are. I went to school with some people who were extremely wealthy (billionaire heirs) or famous, and the people who surrounded them were uniformly terrible, even if the person was ok.

So rich people have a thing where they like to maintain the appearance of magnanimity and graciousness all while not having to bother about the business of being the bad guy. Those tagalongs are doing the bidding of their rich friends.

Yep. Factotums, toadies. See also: agents and personal managers.