Marylandfication of Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

There shouldn't be bond at all. If someone is a risk, they should be held. If not, they shouldn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

There shouldn't be bond at all. If someone is a risk, they should be held. If not, they shouldn't.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

You don’t understand the bill and the data you provided does not support your position.

If you look at people who go to jail before the age of 25, the rehab rehabilitation rate is much higher.

The data you provided is for all ages.

Also, the bill is just for people under the age of 25.

I do understand the bill and the people that support this bill are either statistically illiterate or they think that increasing the number of crime victims from releasing criminals is an acceptable sacrifice to make in order to protect the rights of convicted criminals.

That lower recidivism rate you mentioned is a selection effect, it’s not casually related to the age of arrest or the efficacy of rehabilitation. Advanced age is negatively correlated with the odds of recidivism for multiple reasons that have almost nothing to do with the factors you mentioned. Here are the problems with your argument about why this bill is a good idea.
1) Older people are less likely to be capable of committing crimes because they are more likely to have age related health issues, it has very little to do with criminal proclivities or rehabilitation.
2) On average, people with a criminal history have a higher mortality rate, and the mortality risk is even higher among people with the worst criminal histories. The people released at later ages are the surviving criminals that did not die, so their average recidivism rate is lower due to survivorship bias.
3)The age of initiation for criminal activity is a very strong predictor of recidivism. People who commit crimes at younger ages, especially violent crimes are more likely to reoffend.
4) If you actually look at the data from this research, the recidivism rate is alarmingly high. On average, there were 4.8 arrests per prisoner released over the 9 year period for which data was collected. These numbers are even worse after you adjust for the fact that some of the most violent/criminal people are quickly given another sentence and thrown in jail/prison again, so they are unable to accrue additional arrests during the data collection period. The data also excludes the almost 3% of people that died during the study period which artificially lowers the recidivism rate. Rehabilitation is basically not a thing and the data does not support it.
5) Criminal behavior has a very strong genetic component, likely more than 50% genetic. Not politically correct to say but it is reality. The primary cause of criminal behavior is genetic not environmental. So rehabilitation has very limited efficacy. The most effective way by far to prevent crime is by keeping people with criminal histories in prison so they are unable to commit more crime.
Lastly, it makes zero sense to prioritize the well-being and rights of convicted criminals over the safety of the law-abiding majority of the population that does not have antisocial criminal tendencies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

You don’t understand the bill and the data you provided does not support your position.

If you look at people who go to jail before the age of 25, the rehab rehabilitation rate is much higher.

The data you provided is for all ages.

Also, the bill is just for people under the age of 25.

I do understand the bill and the people that support this bill are either statistically illiterate or they think that increasing the number of crime victims from releasing criminals is an acceptable sacrifice to make in order to protect the rights of convicted criminals.

That lower recidivism rate you mentioned is a selection effect, it’s not casually related to the age of arrest or the efficacy of rehabilitation. Advanced age is negatively correlated with the odds of recidivism for multiple reasons that have almost nothing to do with the factors you mentioned. Here are the problems with your argument about why this bill is a good idea.
1) Older people are less likely to be capable of committing crimes because they are more likely to have age related health issues, it has very little to do with criminal proclivities or rehabilitation.
2) On average, people with a criminal history have a higher mortality rate, and the mortality risk is even higher among people with the worst criminal histories. The people released at later ages are the surviving criminals that did not die, so their average recidivism rate is lower due to survivorship bias.
3)The age of initiation for criminal activity is a very strong predictor of recidivism. People who commit crimes at younger ages, especially violent crimes are more likely to reoffend.
4) If you actually look at the data from this research, the recidivism rate is alarmingly high. On average, there were 4.8 arrests per prisoner released over the 9 year period for which data was collected. These numbers are even worse after you adjust for the fact that some of the most violent/criminal people are quickly given another sentence and thrown in jail/prison again, so they are unable to accrue additional arrests during the data collection period. The data also excludes the almost 3% of people that died during the study period which artificially lowers the recidivism rate. Rehabilitation is basically not a thing and the data does not support it.
5) Criminal behavior has a very strong genetic component, likely more than 50% genetic. Not politically correct to say but it is reality. The primary cause of criminal behavior is genetic not environmental. So rehabilitation has very limited efficacy. The most effective way by far to prevent crime is by keeping people with criminal histories in prison so they are unable to commit more crime.
Lastly, it makes zero sense to prioritize the well-being and rights of convicted criminals over the safety of the law-abiding majority of the population that does not have antisocial criminal tendencies.

Source for number 5? I believe this to be true but I’d like to see the studies.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

Most people will prioritize the safety of their families over your cosplay fantasy life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

Most people will prioritize the safety of their families over your cosplay fantasy life.

Go back to CA, prepare for a red sweep

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

Most people will prioritize the safety of their families over your cosplay fantasy life.

My aunt carries a gun because she works nights cleaning commercial properties in dangerous neighborhoods. Should her gun be taken away?

A gun is one of the only ways smaller people can protect themselves from getting murdered or raped by larger people. A lot of guns are bought for safety. You probably don’t appreciate this because you’ve lived a sheltered life. The real world is a rough place. Some people, especially working class women, need tools to protect themselves from larger, violent predators.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Say hello to Kentucky and West Virginia.

Hopefully the MAGAs scamper off and join their people in WV and KY.

I always wonder why the blue no matter who folks can't seem to stay in the states and cities that are already a brilliant shade of cobalt. Liberal policies make those places so wonderful, yet too many people leave them, in a few years or a decade turn the purple/red area blue, then they want to leave and find the next reddish jurisdiction once crime, taxes, and other quality of life issues get too sparkly sapphire for them.

Well, in the case of Virginia, many communities have experienced economic growth in the last two decades, which attracts (and requires) an educated workforce. Educated people, unlike yourself, tend toward progressive policies.

Then why not stay?

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I don’t want us to become like Maryland. I live in VA and sometimes have to go to MD for work. Literally a visible difference the minute I get off the beltway. While VA is tidy and well kept. MD has trash everywhere, awful roads full of potholes, things stay broken for months and years before getting half assedly fixed.
Oh and the drivers are way more aggressive and worse drivers in general.
What are they all even doing over there?

Gov Spanberger please please don’t turn us into MD. Bad enough to have to go there sometimes, we don’t want to live there. Do not reinvent the wheel. There is no “mandate”, we just didn’t want your opponent’s crazy and we were mad at Youngkin because he insulted Feds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

Most people will prioritize the safety of their families over your cosplay fantasy life.

My aunt carries a gun because she works nights cleaning commercial properties in dangerous neighborhoods. Should her gun be taken away?

A gun is one of the only ways smaller people can protect themselves from getting murdered or raped by larger people. A lot of guns are bought for safety. You probably don’t appreciate this because you’ve lived a sheltered life. The real world is a rough place. Some people, especially working class women, need tools to protect themselves from larger, violent predators.

Does she carry a gun listed under the AWB?

Would any of the proposed legislation prevent her from legally carrying a gun?

2A a-holes lose credibility when they fight common sense gun laws, such as those proposed by (Republican founded) Brady United.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

VA top tax rate looks like it will be 9.55%. MD does get a retiree exit to PA- also a destination for NJ and NY. Some articles mention tax planning since the eff date would be on or after 1/1/27. My tax planning will be moving to possibly PA, NC, FL. As for those who live in NYC , NJ looks great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

If you prioritize abortion and weed over your 2A rights then you deserve everything you get by voting democrat

[Anonymous]

Here is a terrible bills that legislators want to pass.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/SB388/text/SB388

Eliminating zoning rules for non-profits and allowing minimum density of 20 units per acre.