What HSPT score for Merit money?

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Anonymous wrote:O’Connell gives half off for a 99

Isn’t O’Connell the Radford of Catholic High schools though?

Um, no, it’s the co-ed Catholic high school in Northern Virginia, just like SJC is the co-ed Catholic high school in NW DC. Don’t kid yourself that one is superior just bc you live closer to it or know more people who go there.

FWIW, I live in northern VA, and my kid will go to SJC before they go to DJO. DJO offers nothing near the Scholars program that SJC offers, for example.

Have fun with that commute. If you really want them to go to an academically better school than O Connell, you’ll choose Visi or Gonzaga.

I'm the PP you are responding to. Visi/Gonzaga are our top choice, followed by SJC, FOLLOWED by DJO. DJO is the backup to the backup.

I have a strong student/99th percentile son who is considering DJO. He also applied to Gonzaga. But I think he prefers DJO because a lot of his friends are going there. I am certain he can be appropriately challenged and supported. No way would we go to SJC from Nova. That is crazy.

+1. Also, I know people that regret the decision to do SJC from Arlington

It’s 22 mins away from Arlington. But hey, like Radford, I’m sure DJO is fun.

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Anonymous wrote:O’Connell gives half off for a 99

Isn’t O’Connell the Radford of Catholic High schools though?

Um, no, it’s the co-ed Catholic high school in Northern Virginia, just like SJC is the co-ed Catholic high school in NW DC. Don’t kid yourself that one is superior just bc you live closer to it or know more people who go there.

FWIW, I live in northern VA, and my kid will go to SJC before they go to DJO. DJO offers nothing near the Scholars program that SJC offers, for example.

Have fun with that commute. If you really want them to go to an academically better school than O Connell, you’ll choose Visi or Gonzaga.

I'm the PP you are responding to. Visi/Gonzaga are our top choice, followed by SJC, FOLLOWED by DJO. DJO is the backup to the backup.

I have a strong student/99th percentile son who is considering DJO. He also applied to Gonzaga. But I think he prefers DJO because a lot of his friends are going there. I am certain he can be appropriately challenged and supported. No way would we go to SJC from Nova. That is crazy.

+1. Also, I know people that regret the decision to do SJC from Arlington

It’s 22 mins away from Arlington. But hey, like Radford, I’m sure DJO is fun.

22 mins in perfect conditions and no traffic. Can be an hour on the bus. 30-40 mins normally.

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Anonymous wrote:O’Connell gives half off for a 99

Isn’t O’Connell the Radford of Catholic High schools though?

Um, no, it’s the co-ed Catholic high school in Northern Virginia, just like SJC is the co-ed Catholic high school in NW DC. Don’t kid yourself that one is superior just bc you live closer to it or know more people who go there.

FWIW, I live in northern VA, and my kid will go to SJC before they go to DJO. DJO offers nothing near the Scholars program that SJC offers, for example.

Have fun with that commute. If you really want them to go to an academically better school than O Connell, you’ll choose Visi or Gonzaga.

I'm the PP you are responding to. Visi/Gonzaga are our top choice, followed by SJC, FOLLOWED by DJO. DJO is the backup to the backup.

I have a strong student/99th percentile son who is considering DJO. He also applied to Gonzaga. But I think he prefers DJO because a lot of his friends are going there. I am certain he can be appropriately challenged and supported. No way would we go to SJC from Nova. That is crazy.

+1. Also, I know people that regret the decision to do SJC from Arlington

It’s 22 mins away from Arlington. But hey, like Radford, I’m sure DJO is fun.

Unclear why you care so very much.

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Anonymous wrote:O’Connell gives half off for a 99

Isn’t O’Connell the Radford of Catholic High schools though?

Um, no, it’s the co-ed Catholic high school in Northern Virginia, just like SJC is the co-ed Catholic high school in NW DC. Don’t kid yourself that one is superior just bc you live closer to it or know more people who go there.

FWIW, I live in northern VA, and my kid will go to SJC before they go to DJO. DJO offers nothing near the Scholars program that SJC offers, for example.

Have fun with that commute. If you really want them to go to an academically better school than O Connell, you’ll choose Visi or Gonzaga.

I'm the PP you are responding to. Visi/Gonzaga are our top choice, followed by SJC, FOLLOWED by DJO. DJO is the backup to the backup.

I have a strong student/99th percentile son who is considering DJO. He also applied to Gonzaga. But I think he prefers DJO because a lot of his friends are going there. I am certain he can be appropriately challenged and supported. No way would we go to SJC from Nova. That is crazy.

+1. Also, I know people that regret the decision to do SJC from Arlington

It’s 22 mins away from Arlington. But hey, like Radford, I’m sure DJO is fun.

Unclear why you care so very much.

Agree. Yes, it’s a lower caliber school, but there are good reasons to attend O’Connell. Friends, location, parents schedules, etc.

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What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Ignoring everyone who is arguing about commute times to schools, the conversation is really about relative rigor. Saying DJO/BI are less rigorous overall than SJCHS (the Scholars program), and certainly compared to Visi or Gonzaga, isn’t snobby, it’s just acknowledging the academic stratification that already exists in the local HS ecosystem.

And looping it back to the thread topic: merit strategy tells you a lot. Schools like DJO don’t offer 50% tuition to 99th-percentile HSPT kids out of generosity. They do it because that level of incentive is needed to get those families to pause and seriously consider the option over schools that don’t have to “discount” that aggressively.

So yes, rigor exists at DJO and BI. Individual students and individual tracks can be great at any school. But if they were perceived by the market as academically equivalent to SJCHS (Scholars)/Visi/Gonzaga, they wouldn’t need to make that particular financial argument quite so loudly.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Ignoring everyone who is arguing about commute times to schools, the conversation is really about relative rigor. Saying DJO/BI are less rigorous overall than SJCHS (the Scholars program), and certainly compared to Visi or Gonzaga, isn’t snobby, it’s just acknowledging the academic stratification that already exists in the local HS ecosystem.

And looping it back to the thread topic: merit strategy tells you a lot. Schools like DJO don’t offer 50% tuition to 99th-percentile HSPT kids out of generosity. They do it because that level of incentive is needed to get those families to pause and seriously consider the option over schools that don’t have to “discount” that aggressively.

So yes, rigor exists at DJO and BI. Individual students and individual tracks can be great at any school. But if they were perceived by the market as academically equivalent to SJCHS (Scholars)/Visi/Gonzaga, they wouldn’t need to make that particular financial argument quite so loudly.

I appreciate your comment, both the tone and the content. The objection is to the derisive tone of some PPs and their need to put down schools that they don’t like.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

It’s a dumpster fire. Save your money and go public.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Ignoring everyone who is arguing about commute times to schools, the conversation is really about relative rigor. Saying DJO/BI are less rigorous overall than SJCHS (the Scholars program), and certainly compared to Visi or Gonzaga, isn’t snobby, it’s just acknowledging the academic stratification that already exists in the local HS ecosystem.

And looping it back to the thread topic: merit strategy tells you a lot. Schools like DJO don’t offer 50% tuition to 99th-percentile HSPT kids out of generosity. They do it because that level of incentive is needed to get those families to pause and seriously consider the option over schools that don’t have to “discount” that aggressively.

So yes, rigor exists at DJO and BI. Individual students and individual tracks can be great at any school. But if they were perceived by the market as academically equivalent to SJCHS (Scholars)/Visi/Gonzaga, they wouldn’t need to make that particular financial argument quite so loudly.

Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

It’s a dumpster fire. Save your money and go public.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Ignoring everyone who is arguing about commute times to schools, the conversation is really about relative rigor. Saying DJO/BI are less rigorous overall than SJCHS (the Scholars program), and certainly compared to Visi or Gonzaga, isn’t snobby, it’s just acknowledging the academic stratification that already exists in the local HS ecosystem.

And looping it back to the thread topic: merit strategy tells you a lot. Schools like DJO don’t offer 50% tuition to 99th-percentile HSPT kids out of generosity. They do it because that level of incentive is needed to get those families to pause and seriously consider the option over schools that don’t have to “discount” that aggressively.

So yes, rigor exists at DJO and BI. Individual students and individual tracks can be great at any school. But if they were perceived by the market as academically equivalent to SJCHS (Scholars)/Visi/Gonzaga, they wouldn’t need to make that particular financial argument quite so loudly.

Fair enough, but I do find it odd that it’s only the Scholars program at SJC that everyone thinks is so academically rigorous and prestigious and then that is being compared to DJO as a whole. What about the SJC Scholars program vs all AP/honors at DJO? Would it really be that different? Are the college outcomes that different? And, if it really is, DJO should look into starting a similar program.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Ignoring everyone who is arguing about commute times to schools, the conversation is really about relative rigor. Saying DJO/BI are less rigorous overall than SJCHS (the Scholars program), and certainly compared to Visi or Gonzaga, isn’t snobby, it’s just acknowledging the academic stratification that already exists in the local HS ecosystem.

And looping it back to the thread topic: merit strategy tells you a lot. Schools like DJO don’t offer 50% tuition to 99th-percentile HSPT kids out of generosity. They do it because that level of incentive is needed to get those families to pause and seriously consider the option over schools that don’t have to “discount” that aggressively.

So yes, rigor exists at DJO and BI. Individual students and individual tracks can be great at any school. But if they were perceived by the market as academically equivalent to SJCHS (Scholars)/Visi/Gonzaga, they wouldn’t need to make that particular financial argument quite so loudly.

Fair enough, but I do find it odd that it’s only the Scholars program at SJC that everyone thinks is so academically rigorous and prestigious and then that is being compared to DJO as a whole. What about the SJC Scholars program vs all AP/honors at DJO? Would it really be that different? Are the college outcomes that different? And, if it really is, DJO should look into starting a similar program.

Not sure, but this is a thread about which high merit scores = merit money, which is probably why you see the scholars focus. I suspect more of the SJC scholars kids get the merit $.

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Lots of insufferable people on this thread.

The diocesan high schools have rigor, but you have to take all honors, AP, DE classes. They also accommodate kids who want to take regular college prep courses. Everyone is prepared for college. There is no need for every school to be exclusive.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of insufferable people on this thread.

The diocesan high schools have rigor, but you have to take all honors, AP, DE classes. They also accommodate kids who want to take regular college prep courses. Everyone is prepared for college. There is no need for every school to be exclusive.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of snobs!

There is academic rigor at DJO, BI (which has a Scholars program), etc. I realize that doesn’t fit some narratives, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

I see what you did there, including BI as a low-brow parochial. You monster!