Doctors make too much money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

+1 I actually think most doctors are massively underpaid compared to other professions when factoring in skill level, value of service they are providing, years/cost of education, work/life balance, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

+1 I actually think most doctors are massively underpaid compared to other professions when factoring in skill level, value of service they are providing, years/cost of education, work/life balance, etc

PCPs are underpaid. Radiologists, orthopedic surgeons, and anesthesiologists are ridiculously overpaid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

Your cleaning lady works her ass off, too. Are you willing to pay her $600k a year?

It's amazing how generous people are when they're able to get someone else to pay for 80-90% of a service.

How many people are capable of performing a life saving surgery versus the number capable of scrubbing a toilet and how willing are you to accept the consequences if you forgo each service or if they screw it up?

Surely that factors into what people are willing to pay, regardless of what insurance is willing to kick in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re paid 500k a year or so and they spend much of their time performing incredibly complex surgeries. If you want to start paying doctors like preschool teachers then you’re going to end up with doctors who have the equivalent IQ and training as a preschool teacher putting rods in your spine.

this. I am an ortho surgical nurse so I spend my entire day in surgery with the ortho spine and neurosurgeons. My sister is a early ed teacher. I love her but .... you really do not want "her" to attempt to repair your herniated discs or do a fusion of your L4-L5. Trust me on this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

Your cleaning lady works her ass off, too. Are you willing to pay her $600k a year?

It's amazing how generous people are when they're able to get someone else to pay for 80-90% of a service.

You lost all credibility by comparing cleaning lady with a doctor. Either purposely obtuse or simply stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

Your cleaning lady works her ass off, too. Are you willing to pay her $600k a year?

It's amazing how generous people are when they're able to get someone else to pay for 80-90% of a service.

How many people are capable of performing a life saving surgery versus the number capable of scrubbing a toilet and how willing are you to accept the consequences if you forgo each service or if they screw it up?

Surely that factors into what people are willing to pay, regardless of what insurance is willing to kick in.

OK, do you pay for cleaning lady even 1/10th of that for working her "ass off"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re paid 500k a year or so and they spend much of their time performing incredibly complex surgeries. If you want to start paying doctors like preschool teachers then you’re going to end up with doctors who have the equivalent IQ and training as a preschool teacher putting rods in your spine.

this. I am an ortho surgical nurse so I spend my entire day in surgery with the ortho spine and neurosurgeons. My sister is an early ed teacher. I love her but .... you really do not want "her" to attempt to repair your herniated discs or do a fusion of your L4-L5. Trust me on this

You don't think there's any room between $35k and $500k?

[Anonymous]

Why OP are not made at Wall Street and big law parteners who make millions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why OP are not mad at Wall Street and big law parteners who make millions?

*mad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why OP are not made at Wall Street and big law parteners who make millions?

Plenty of people think that is wrong, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

Your cleaning lady works her ass off, too. Are you willing to pay her $600k a year?

It's amazing how generous people are when they're able to get someone else to pay for 80-90% of a service.

How many people are capable of performing a life saving surgery versus the number capable of scrubbing a toilet and how willing are you to accept the consequences if you forgo each service or if they screw it up?

Surely that factors into what people are willing to pay, regardless of what insurance is willing to kick in.

OK, do you pay for cleaning lady even 1/10th of that for working her "ass off"?

NP. Depending on specialty, physicians take call and get woken up regularly at night, miss events with their family, and have to be “on” the whole time they’re working. There are plenty of other jobs where people work really hard and work long hours, but I want my doctor to be fairly compensated for their time and expertise. Most doctors are not making that much for how hard they’re working plus the high level of responsibility they’re taking on for their work. The ones who make a ton tend to be on the business end of medicine, not in daily practice. In the hospital, most administrators and making more than the average physician on staff, and those admins don’t spend their days listening to and caring for patients.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

Your cleaning lady works her ass off, too. Are you willing to pay her $600k a year?

It's amazing how generous people are when they're able to get someone else to pay for 80-90% of a service.

Actually, I work my own a$$ off cleaning the house myself. And since our doctors have saved my life twice as well as two other members of my family, yeah, I’m pretty happy and thankful for the care that medical professionals have given us.

[Anonymous]

I got an email from my doctor today (Saturday). Apparently he was trying to catch up on follow ups. I am not sure how much more OP wants doctors to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have no complaints about my doctors and that includes their salaries. They work their a$$es off and have provided me and my family with great care.

+1 I actually think most doctors are massively underpaid compared to other professions when factoring in skill level, value of service they are providing, years/cost of education, work/life balance, etc

PCPs are underpaid. Radiologists, orthopedic surgeons, and anesthesiologists are ridiculously overpaid.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to the ortho. Was seen initially by the trainee. The tech staff did all of the work for the xray. Doc comes in, does one minor mechanical test, looks at the xray for 15 seconds, and then prescribes steroids and P/T. Co-pay was $50, and they're probably charging my insurance well north of $400+ for the entite visit not even counting the trays. I think his entire visit was less than 4 minutes long. So in otherwords, if we were to extrapolate my $500 (approx.) visit out to one hour, he's earning $6000/hour, roughly speaking.

That is just patently ABSURD. Yes, we all know the middlemen like insurance companies, PBMS, etc. are all terrible and are driving up costs, but why are doctors and their practices untouchable? We treat them like gods in America point they are immune to criticism, but often times they do minutes of work for outrageous fees that AI could probably do soon for 1/1000th the cost. Why can't we ever talk about how doctors are also fleecing America and driving up healthcare costs? They treat patients like cash cows. More volume = more cash = fancier Porsche and bigger house.

I am just disgusted with the entire practice of medicine in America from top to bottom.

Two points that make your point dumb. First, that was all the time needed to deal with your issue. The area is not rocket science. Second, it is likely that your insurance company did not pay more than 50 bucks. And it probably cost 10 of that just to process your payment.