Dogs belong in rural exurbs, not in cities and inner ring burbs

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

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My dog is 10 lbs wet. She is perfectly fine living in the city.

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I’m so tired of seeing dogs everywhere. Sidewalks, restaurants, grocery stores, parks, clothing stores, coffee shops, everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:So many anti dog people frequent the Pet forum. If you don’t like dogs, just keep scrolling.

So many flaws in all of these supposed “solutions”.

let me introduce you to the "Recent Topics" link. Stop gatekeeping what people can and cannot post.

That's right, PP! Defend your right to shitpost and troll freely! You tell 'em!

Who needs rational discourse anyway, amirite?

DP. Dogs are the only pet who regularly and increasingly appears in public. Thus everyone has an opinion on dogs. You don't see these threads on other animals because it is relatively rare for someone who doesn't actually own a cat or a bird or fish to be in close proximity to any of those animals in a public or shared space.

It's not "trolling" to have an opinion on dogs who live in your apartment building, who you encounter on the sidewalks around your home, who show up on your local coffee shop, grocery store, or school playground. If you don't like the general public weighing in on your dog, then stop exposing the general public to your dog.

man yells at cloud, erm, dog...

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Anonymous wrote:So many anti dog people frequent the Pet forum. If you don’t like dogs, just keep scrolling.

So many flaws in all of these supposed “solutions”.

let me introduce you to the "Recent Topics" link. Stop gatekeeping what people can and cannot post.

That's right, PP! Defend your right to shitpost and troll freely! You tell 'em!

Who needs rational discourse anyway, amirite?

DP. Dogs are the only pet who regularly and increasingly appears in public. Thus everyone has an opinion on dogs. You don't see these threads on other animals because it is relatively rare for someone who doesn't actually own a cat or a bird or fish to be in close proximity to any of those animals in a public or shared space.

It's not "trolling" to have an opinion on dogs who live in your apartment building, who you encounter on the sidewalks around your home, who show up on your local coffee shop, grocery store, or school playground. If you don't like the general public weighing in on your dog, then stop exposing the general public to your dog.

It may not be trolling but it’s ridiculous to post statements that people should only be allowed to have dogs in the exurbs. There are plenty of pet free apartment buildings and if you live in an urban area, as everyone here loves to repeat, you don’t get to control how other people live.

People who don’t like dogs are usually unpleasant in general. I would rather live next door to someone with pets than a carmudgeon.

It's also a bit rich to be all "you can't stop me from having an opinion" when some of these people want to control other people's pets and lives. Do you want random people controlling or not?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so tired of seeing dogs everywhere. Sidewalks, restaurants, grocery stores, parks, clothing stores, coffee shops, everywhere.

If you are triggered by seeing dogs at parks and on sidewalks, that's you being unreasonable. But I'll give you grocery stores and malls.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

It's never people who know anything about the breed calling for a breed ban.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so tired of seeing dogs everywhere. Sidewalks, restaurants, grocery stores, parks, clothing stores, coffee shops, everywhere.

If you are triggered by seeing dogs at parks and on sidewalks, that's you being unreasonable. But I'll give you grocery stores and malls.

Shit, I LOVE dogs and I will also give PP grocery stores and malls. Honestly, I'll add restaurants. I hate the very idea of "yappy hours" and the like. The only thing worse than jerks with poorly-behaved, poorly-trained dogs is the same dynamic plus alcohol. Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's cruel to both the dog and all of your neighbors to raise it in a city or subdivision on a tiny lot with basically no yard. The barking, lack of exercise, lack of sun, their paws on blazing hot sidewalks and pavement, only able to go outside a coupe of times a day to quickly go the bathroom (often after holding it in for a hours), and the poop and pee they leave everywhere in the city or on everyone else's small front yard.

dogs are highly adaptable—like foxes, raccoons, coyotes, owls, hawks, skunks, etc.—no reason they can't live in the city if they're properly cared for. and you can ignore and mistreat a dog in the exurbs.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

That’s a weird measure since most dogs don’t pee indoors. My friends Jack Russel terror was a holy terror that destroyed everything (not uncommon for the breed) but my big golden doesn’t destroy anything. Aa lot of small terriers are terrible apartment dogs because they are bundles of nervous energy that get anxiety with noises coming for other apartments. A lot of big dogs are very calm and totally unbothered by noises.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

That’s a weird measure since most dogs don’t pee indoors. My friends Jack Russel terror was a holy terror that destroyed everything (not uncommon for the breed) but my big golden doesn’t destroy anything. Aa lot of small terriers are terrible apartment dogs because they are bundles of nervous energy that get anxiety with noises coming for other apartments. A lot of big dogs are very calm and totally unbothered by noises.

yeah, i didn't say it was a good indication of whether they are likely to misbehave, i said it's a good measure of how much shit or piss or damage they could create.

a jack russell certainly is more likely to be a destructive dog, but if a golden is destructive it will be worse than a jack russell and it will create far more urine and poop.

Also, little dogs are easier to crate/contain... a 15lb jack russell is more likely to have the space it needs than a 90 pound malinois or ridgeback. not saying which dog WILL behave better.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

Bigger dogs do produce more pee and poop, but they also have bigger bladders and often can hold their urine longer. I’m the greyhound owner and my dog can go many hours without peeing, while tiny Italian greyhounds are notoriously difficult to housebreak.

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Anonymous wrote:Virtually all large dogs were bred to do a job and they go crazy if they can't do that job.
Some dogs were bred to do nothing all day but be a companion. They are called lap dogs. And that's completely fine! But many people find those dogs wimpy-looking and are trying to force a big dog into a lap dog role.
If you can restructure your life so that your big dog gets to do the job it was bred to do, good for you. The vast majority of owners don't do that.

Not really. Sporting dogs were bred to lie around 90% of the time and then go for a long walk with owner and retrieve some birds. We have a big house and all my golden wants to do is lie with the same 100 square feet 99% of the time, and then go on a hike once a day. He would hate living on a farm and being forced to spend lots of time outdoors.

A Great Dane is arguably a better apartment dog that a small hyper yappy dog.

You know what breed makes surprisingly good apartment dogs, provided they can get out for a good walk? Greyhounds. Laziest mfers...

We used to live in a big building with a lot of dogs and this is really true -- we saw lots of smaller dogs come through who gave their owners a lot of trouble, were noisy and hard to train. But our direct upstairs neighbors the entire time had two large greyhounds and they were silent, not active, took two sedate walks a day, and otherwise slept all day long. I'd take a greyhound as a neighbor over like 90% of other breeds including the ones that get billed as good apartment dogs.

And this is why bans on dogs over a certain number of pounds don’t necessarily have the desired effect. My 79 lb greyhound only wants to walk 3 times a day, doesn’t want really long walks, and doesn’t want to be outside when he’s not walking. He wants to spend his days lounging on a dog bed or sofa, sleeping 90% of the time. He rarely ever barks and doesn’t react to other animals or people beyond a friendly tail wag or a sniff.

I've never understood the weight limit, particularly for things like hotels. Weight is not at all an indicator on whether or not a dog will be a good guest. As a city dweller myself who spent many years in apartments, my anecdotal experience is the small ones tend to be MORE excitable and barky. I'd take my chances living next door to a 80 lb greyhound long before a 20 lb beagle...

it's not a terrible way to gauge how much destruction it can cause and the quaniity of pee and poop it can produce. I saw a mastiff at the dog park the other day and holy hell its pee was like a deluge.

Bigger dogs do produce more pee and poop, but they also have bigger bladders and often can hold their urine longer. I’m the greyhound owner and my dog can go many hours without peeing, while tiny Italian greyhounds are notoriously difficult to housebreak.

that's great.

the answer to the question "why do they ask about the size of the dog?" still remains "they believe bigger dogs can cause more destruction or pee and poop more and may be harder to contain".