looking for a school that will take a B kid for engineering who has a ton of service hours

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

Luckily, I don't need to prove anything to you. But to the OP, your son can absolutely become an engineer if he wants.

You don't have to prove anything because it's not provable. Your kid got into a less selective engineering school, and that's great. But it had nothing to do with the ECs and everything to do with the academic profile. Are you saying that your kid has a lower/worse academic profile than the vast majority of her classmates? I doubt it.

Also, let's not forget that she's female. OP's kid is male. Makes a difference when it comes to engineering school admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

Was the B in math classes?

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

NP and now she’s an engineer. Nobody cares where you went to school. Penn State takes all the B kids from the Brooklyn public school where I teach and 4 years later, they graduate as engineers.

Ok, but that's not the point. Penn State isn't taking "all the B kids" from your school because of their ECs. And I'm betting its a magnet program anyway.

it's not. and we dont even have a magnet program. our schools our tiers and lottery numbers now (minus the SHSAT schools, also not magnet)

Penn state is taking all the B kids who apply and have good LORs

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

Luckily, I don't need to prove anything to you. But to the OP, your son can absolutely become an engineer if he wants.

You don't have to prove anything because it's not provable. Your kid got into a less selective engineering school, and that's great. But it had nothing to do with the ECs and everything to do with the academic profile. Are you saying that your kid has a lower/worse academic profile than the vast majority of her classmates? I doubt it.

Also, let's not forget that she's female. OP's kid is male. Makes a difference when it comes to engineering school admissions.

It's possible you don't know this, but it doesnt matter if a college is "less selective" or not for engineering. this is not law school. engineers are engineers.

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Anonymous wrote:Engineering is a grind almost anywhere. Would a B student want that or is this more parent-driven?

I posted above that my B student was accepted into 3 engineering schools. She has known that she wanted to be an engineer since she was 8. Her low grades are because of poor executive functioning -- which will certainly be a problem in college, but would be much worse if she wasn't studying her passion.

key word for you is "accepted". unless your daughter completes the degree (w/ at least 3.0 avg, she ain't cut out to be an engineer)

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Anonymous wrote:Engineering is no harder than accounting. You have to be good at math, but that’s it. I got Bs in high school Spanish, English, history, bio, everything really. I think maybe half my math classes too. I did good on the SAT and just fine in engineering

You did "well," you mean -- and obviously higher on the math than the verbal.

People use slang. It’s rude to comment like you did.

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Anonymous wrote:Engineering is no harder than accounting. You have to be good at math, but that’s it. I got Bs in high school Spanish, English, history, bio, everything really. I think maybe half my math classes too. I did good on the SAT and just fine in engineering

Hahahaha… that IS funny. Thank you.

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University of Dayton! Great community and highly ranked engineering. I went there in the 90s.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

Luckily, I don't need to prove anything to you. But to the OP, your son can absolutely become an engineer if he wants.

You don't have to prove anything because it's not provable. Your kid got into a less selective engineering school, and that's great. But it had nothing to do with the ECs and everything to do with the academic profile. Are you saying that your kid has a lower/worse academic profile than the vast majority of her classmates? I doubt it.

Also, let's not forget that she's female. OP's kid is male. Makes a difference when it comes to engineering school admissions.

It's possible you don't know this, but it doesnt matter if a college is "less selective" or not for engineering. this is not law school. engineers are engineers.

I agree 100 percent. My point is just that the school is less selective and great ECs have nothing to do with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell, hotel management.

Along the line of hospitality, operations, real estate development, or sustainable lodging, etc.

A B student is not getting into Cornell, even hotel management.

ED NYU

Is this a joke?

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

NP and now she’s an engineer. Nobody cares where you went to school. Penn State takes all the B kids from the Brooklyn public school where I teach and 4 years later, they graduate as engineers.

Ok, but that's not the point. Penn State isn't taking "all the B kids" from your school because of their ECs. And I'm betting its a magnet program anyway.

Penn State certainly isn’t taking all the B kids for engineering at the main campus. Penn State does accept all B students from my Kid’s school at the branch campuses, which I’m sure is what is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

NP and now she’s an engineer. Nobody cares where you went to school. Penn State takes all the B kids from the Brooklyn public school where I teach and 4 years later, they graduate as engineers.

Ok, but that's not the point. Penn State isn't taking "all the B kids" from your school because of their ECs. And I'm betting its a magnet program anyway.

Penn State certainly isn’t taking all the B kids for engineering at the main campus. Penn State does accept all B students from my Kid’s school at the branch campuses, which I’m sure is what is happening.

Yep. DCs friend with a 4.2+GPA, roughly 1500 SAT, solid ECs and strong LORs got main campus for engineering…by agreeing to summer start. B students from our FCPS HS are maybe getting 2+2 offers but for most it’s a flat out no.

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UVa does not have intentional weed out classes. Vast majority of students who start in engineering actually graduate with an engineering degree in 4 or 5 years. Number of 3rd year students in engineering is similar to the number of 1st year students in engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:UVa does not have intentional weed out classes. Vast majority of students who start in engineering actually graduate with an engineering degree in 4 or 5 years. Number of 3rd year students in engineering is similar to the number of 1st year students in engineering.

Uh huh. And what are the stats of admitted students? With numbers like those it’s not surprising that most admitted students can handle the program.

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Anonymous wrote:including doing things like building homes for poor, LDS kid so mission trips, very clearly. Still, building is building? also designing grey water system .

knows about BYU

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Put your dumb lds kid in Utah I don’t want them indoctrinating other kids