looking for a school that will take a B kid for engineering who has a ton of service hours

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

NP and now she’s an engineer. Nobody cares where you went to school. Penn State takes all the B kids from the Brooklyn public school where I teach and 4 years later, they graduate as engineers.

Ok, but that's not the point. Penn State isn't taking "all the B kids" from your school because of their ECs. And I'm betting its a magnet program anyway.

Penn State certainly isn’t taking all the B kids for engineering at the main campus. Penn State does accept all B students from my Kid’s school at the branch campuses, which I’m sure is what is happening.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to think about whether your kid will make it through engineering school. Seriously.

I disagree. But the kid described should avoid an engineering program with deliberate weed-out classes.

That would rule out ODU and VT, in Virginia, for example. Fine schools, but both have intentional weed out classes.

Everyone here will disagree, but I would at least apply to UVa Engineering if in state. UVa would place some admissions weight on those kinds of service projects. UVa is small and more supportive and has a high graduation rate in engineering for students who start in engineering.

Depending in student's intended major within engineering, consider CNU and GMU and UMBC.

Lol “weed out” classes exist to “weed out” kids who can’t be engineers. And just stop on UVA. Zero chance. Zero.

No, they exist because the major is oversubscribed any many schools want fewer students in the high level classes.

No, they're not "oversubscribed" because they were admitted to a program which by definition means they have the space. It's all part of the process. Not everyone is meant to be an engineering. And the idea that there are colleges who will admit applicants to engineering programs primarily on the basis of service hours in high school and not academics is laughable and naive. That's not how the admissions process works for ANY major, and especially STEM majors. First you have to have the academics, and only then do AdComs look at the ECs.

I don't know what to tell you. My child has completed the application process successfully (not top 20, but her dream engineering schools) with mediocre grades (mostly Bs, with a smattering of Cs and As) and really strong ECs.

Not top 20? I'm betting not top 100. She didn't get in because of her ECs. She got into a low ranked school that routinely admits kids with average grades.

NP and now she’s an engineer. Nobody cares where you went to school. Penn State takes all the B kids from the Brooklyn public school where I teach and 4 years later, they graduate as engineers.

Ok, but that's not the point. Penn State isn't taking "all the B kids" from your school because of their ECs. And I'm betting its a magnet program anyway.

Penn State certainly isn’t taking all the B kids for engineering at the main campus. Penn State does accept all B students from my Kid’s school at the branch campuses, which I’m sure is what is happening.

Yep. DCs friend with a 4.2+GPA, roughly 1500 SAT, solid ECs and strong LORs got main campus for engineering…by agreeing to summer start. B students from our FCPS HS are maybe getting 2+2 offers but for most it’s a flat out no.

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UVa does not have intentional weed out classes. Vast majority of students who start in engineering actually graduate with an engineering degree in 4 or 5 years. Number of 3rd year students in engineering is similar to the number of 1st year students in engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:UVa does not have intentional weed out classes. Vast majority of students who start in engineering actually graduate with an engineering degree in 4 or 5 years. Number of 3rd year students in engineering is similar to the number of 1st year students in engineering.

Uh huh. And what are the stats of admitted students? With numbers like those it’s not surprising that most admitted students can handle the program.

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Anonymous wrote:including doing things like building homes for poor, LDS kid so mission trips, very clearly. Still, building is building? also designing grey water system .

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Put your dumb lds kid in Utah I don’t want them indoctrinating other kids

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Ton of service hours will do you no good solving heat transfer questions. Just FYI.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Dayton! Great community and highly ranked engineering. I went there in the 90s.

By whom?

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Anonymous wrote:University of Dayton! Great community and highly ranked engineering. I went there in the 90s.

By whom?

Not the PP, but Dayton does have a good engineering school. I think they’re around #50 in US News and in good company. They have ties with GE in the Dayton area and the grads are well regarded. We looked at it for my son who wanted a smaller to mid size school with engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Ton of service hours will do you no good solving heat transfer questions. Just FYI.

Neither will an A in high school English.

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Anonymous wrote:My low stats, high EC/community service kid was accepted by Rose Hulman, WPI, and Clarkson.

Never heard of any of these!

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Anonymous wrote:Ton of service hours will do you no good solving heat transfer questions. Just FYI.

Neither will an A in high school English.

English is actually useful. A lot more than you would understand.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Dayton! Great community and highly ranked engineering. I went there in the 90s.

By whom?

Not the PP, but Dayton does have a good engineering school. I think they’re around #50 in US News and in good company. They have ties with GE in the Dayton area and the grads are well regarded. We looked at it for my son who wanted a smaller to mid size school with engineering.

I just looked it up. USNWR ranks the undergraduate engineering program 125. Among Boise St., FIU, NC A&T, SD Mines, SMU, UAB, UAH, Louisville, Mass-Lowell, UNH, UNCC, Wisc-Milw and Wayne St.

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There is such little info provided by OP likely making them a troll, but here is my take anyway.
-ECs don't matter for 99% of engineering schools.
-All 3.0 B averages are not equal. Bs in calc BC and Physics C are going to be helpful for admissions at most schools, but Bs with no rigor in math and science are going to make admission and college tougher.
-Skip state flagships (UVA, Delaware, VT, Penn State, etc are not serious suggestions) unless they auto admit and your kid meets the requirements.
-Privates such as RIT and WPI are likely rejects for a B student.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Dayton! Great community and highly ranked engineering. I went there in the 90s.

By whom?

Not the PP, but Dayton does have a good engineering school. I think they’re around #50 in US News and in good company. They have ties with GE in the Dayton area and the grads are well regarded. We looked at it for my son who wanted a smaller to mid size school with engineering.

I just looked it up. USNWR ranks the undergraduate engineering program 125. Among Boise St., FIU, NC A&T, SD Mines, SMU, UAB, UAH, Louisville, Mass-Lowell, UNH, UNCC, Wisc-Milw and Wayne St.

Not bad company.

You can’t win on this forum. OP wants an engineering school for a B student. Engineers are saying it doesn’t really matter where you go to school. Someone then identifies a school that would take the B student and you poo poo it. Not helpful.

To me, the bottom line is that OP needs to accept that her student is not going to get into a top engineering school simply on the basis of ECs, but there are plenty of lower ranked ones that would give him a shot.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Dayton! Great community and highly ranked engineering. I went there in the 90s.

By whom?

Not the PP, but Dayton does have a good engineering school. I think they’re around #50 in US News and in good company. They have ties with GE in the Dayton area and the grads are well regarded. We looked at it for my son who wanted a smaller to mid size school with engineering.

I just looked it up. USNWR ranks the undergraduate engineering program 125. Among Boise St., FIU, NC A&T, SD Mines, SMU, UAB, UAH, Louisville, Mass-Lowell, UNH, UNCC, Wisc-Milw and Wayne St.

Not bad company.

You can’t win on this forum. OP wants an engineering school for a B student. Engineers are saying it doesn’t really matter where you go to school. Someone then identifies a school that would take the B student and you poo poo it. Not helpful.

To me, the bottom line is that OP needs to accept that her student is not going to get into a top engineering school simply on the basis of ECs, but there are plenty of lower ranked ones that would give him a shot.

PP. I didn't "poo poo" it. Just providing accurate information unlike the previous and so many other posters.