High school - phone policies

[Anonymous]

Stop saying it's all the parents' responsibility. It's actually a classic collective action problem that requires school enforcement (within school hours) and guidance (outside of school hours).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point remains: if you're concerned about your child's cell phone habits, that's your responsibility, not the school's. Schools might be able to limit use during the school day, but everything else is on the parents.

I'm actually concerned about the entire generation, and not just my own kids.

And so I am strict about phone use and support that schools are strict about it too (especially in grades 9-12).

Other countries have strict phone policies. Let's not have our American kids become zombies on the phone. See today's Wall Street Journal opinion piece

See Jonathan Haidt’s new book, “The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing An Epidemic of Mental Illness.” The author is a social psychologist who teaches at New York University’s Stern School of Business, has spent his career studying emotion, culture and morality, turning along the way to child development and adolescent mental health.
https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/0593655036/ref=sr_1_1?crid=397FVHF2RH4EO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pLA6Rb-vSM6-wdPqDulw2F1mmrT8kyDGTrWLBo2P3ETDPI-733XfjAgiL4M2nE-pISL89kWiw1tIyX6JrWnjhYcg-kkpTPiNxFuod9oqBGXLIBrVUIiYjRcUujBdTKiMUcBU7UO0UEl9P4J4kHDAjH_Diray_ZmYva7GJvygbjIzkGnduumKfusSCSYGXdFRDzeYRowfJevZRJ2ze62nv3FfuDR8cwhg1X__doOieV0.OnyyK7nHDdsto20ihjclI7I4xYk1mG5YAKTmdtz968Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=jonathan+haidt+the+anxious+generation&qid=1712872424&sprefix=jonathan+%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-1

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone have experience with a high school that actually monitors phone use in school time? Where kids aren't on their phones during lunch, on the bus, outings, etc and are actually interacting with one another? DC is in private k-8 MS now and kids are GLUED to their phones. Not as much during class because they are not allowed, but it's youtube and the likes on their chromebooks in some classes.

Can’t believe any school allows surfing the web during class and instruction.

Thats zero learning then. What a waste.

Chromebook’s have to go.

Chromebooks with appropriate monitoring software are great - my daughter has done such interesting projects thanks to them. But her teachers have software so they can see exactly what each kid is doing at all times, and they can remotely close tabs/shut down applications that are off topic without a word. The teachers love it and say it has made a huge difference.

My nieces’ school does school-issued iPads, and they have no monitoring software on them at all, and parents aren’t allowed to put anything on them. It’s kind of a disaster in terms of distraction and misuse from what I’ve heard.

I understand how/why schools do this, but the privacy implications bug me. Our public started doing it this year, and my kid now thinks she can't use her school computer to write a short story for fun at home after school. Yes, it's nice when the teacher can close a browser where a kid is looking at pictures of rear ends and have a conversation with the class about why that's not OK (story my kid came home with), but it's also leaves the teacher able to snoop through anything a kid is doing.

https://www.ednewsdaily.com/is-your-monitoring-software-putting-your-students-privacy-at-risk/

It’s school property so there’s no privacy, just like with an employer-issued device. Good life lesson. Assume your school/workplace can and will track anything you do on their equipment.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone have experience with a high school that actually monitors phone use in school time? Where kids aren't on their phones during lunch, on the bus, outings, etc and are actually interacting with one another? DC is in private k-8 MS now and kids are GLUED to their phones. Not as much during class because they are not allowed, but it's youtube and the likes on their chromebooks in some classes.

Can’t believe any school allows surfing the web during class and instruction.

Thats zero learning then. What a waste.

Chromebook’s have to go.

Chromebooks with appropriate monitoring software are great - my daughter has done such interesting projects thanks to them. But her teachers have software so they can see exactly what each kid is doing at all times, and they can remotely close tabs/shut down applications that are off topic without a word. The teachers love it and say it has made a huge difference.

My nieces’ school does school-issued iPads, and they have no monitoring software on them at all, and parents aren’t allowed to put anything on them. It’s kind of a disaster in terms of distraction and misuse from what I’ve heard.

I understand how/why schools do this, but the privacy implications bug me. Our public started doing it this year, and my kid now thinks she can't use her school computer to write a short story for fun at home after school. Yes, it's nice when the teacher can close a browser where a kid is looking at pictures of rear ends and have a conversation with the class about why that's not OK (story my kid came home with), but it's also leaves the teacher able to snoop through anything a kid is doing.

https://www.ednewsdaily.com/is-your-monitoring-software-putting-your-students-privacy-at-risk/

It seems better to allow the schools to monitor, even if it means that some kids cannot use their school-issued computer to "write a short story for fun at home after school." If your child would like to write a store at home, then can the child perhaps use a computer owned by your family, or perhaps just hand-write the story? Let's think about the overall good for the kids at school, rather than the particular needs of your kid.

Let's help this generation of kids, by monitoring their screen use on school laptops. Otherwise, they will just be more glued/addicted to screens than they already are.

Sure, my kid's situation isn't terribly compelling, but did you click through the link and see the more complex privacy arguments? Would you like someone able to look at your screen at work at any time?

My work CAN look at my screen at any time. I use my personal device for personal use. Anything that I do on my work device, email, or drive is fair game for review by my superiors. Why should school be any different?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone have experience with a high school that actually monitors phone use in school time? Where kids aren't on their phones during lunch, on the bus, outings, etc and are actually interacting with one another? DC is in private k-8 MS now and kids are GLUED to their phones. Not as much during class because they are not allowed, but it's youtube and the likes on their chromebooks in some classes.

Can’t believe any school allows surfing the web during class and instruction.

Thats zero learning then. What a waste.

Chromebook’s have to go.

Chromebooks with appropriate monitoring software are great - my daughter has done such interesting projects thanks to them. But her teachers have software so they can see exactly what each kid is doing at all times, and they can remotely close tabs/shut down applications that are off topic without a word. The teachers love it and say it has made a huge difference.

My nieces’ school does school-issued iPads, and they have no monitoring software on them at all, and parents aren’t allowed to put anything on them. It’s kind of a disaster in terms of distraction and misuse from what I’ve heard.

I understand how/why schools do this, but the privacy implications bug me. Our public started doing it this year, and my kid now thinks she can't use her school computer to write a short story for fun at home after school. Yes, it's nice when the teacher can close a browser where a kid is looking at pictures of rear ends and have a conversation with the class about why that's not OK (story my kid came home with), but it's also leaves the teacher able to snoop through anything a kid is doing.

https://www.ednewsdaily.com/is-your-monitoring-software-putting-your-students-privacy-at-risk/

It seems better to allow the schools to monitor, even if it means that some kids cannot use their school-issued computer to "write a short story for fun at home after school." If your child would like to write a store at home, then can the child perhaps use a computer owned by your family, or perhaps just hand-write the story? Let's think about the overall good for the kids at school, rather than the particular needs of your kid.

Let's help this generation of kids, by monitoring their screen use on school laptops. Otherwise, they will just be more glued/addicted to screens than they already are.

Sure, my kid's situation isn't terribly compelling, but did you click through the link and see the more complex privacy arguments? Would you like someone able to look at your screen at work at any time?

My work CAN look at my screen at any time. I use my personal device for personal use. Anything that I do on my work device, email, or drive is fair game for review by my superiors. Why should school be any different?

+1. I work at a Fortune 100 corporation, and it's a standard policy that people know not to look at anything inappropriate (or even just unrelated to work) on the work-issued laptop. It's common sense. You can use your personal device to do personal stuff.

[Anonymous]

Reviving this thread because it’s application season and I’m interested in finding out about a bunch of schools we are looking at. We have two kids applying to two different lists with only one school overlapping. Hoping we can focus this thread back to OP’s post.

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