Roe v Wade struck down

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Texas ob-gyns fleeing the state or retiring.

Thanks MAGA! We’re already like a third world country in terms of maternal mortality. It’s gonna get much much worse.


A report released last month by Manatt Health, a health-care consultancy based in Los Angeles, confirmed Brown’s fears. Manatt surveyed hundreds of ob-gyns in Texas to examine the impact of abortion bans. Seventy-six per cent of respondents said that they could no longer treat patients in accordance with evidence-based medicine. Twenty-one per cent said that they were either considering leaving the state or already planning to do so; thirteen per cent had decided to retire early. The report found “historic and worsening shortages” of ob-gyns, which “disproportionately impact rural and economically disadvantaged communities.” As in the Rio Grande Valley, the bans were shrinking the field’s future workforce: residency programs across Texas have seen a sixteen-per-cent drop in applications.

Texas is among the twenty-one states where abortion is banned or severely restricted. In Idaho, nearly a quarter of the state’s ob-gyns have left since the ban went into effect, and rural hospitals have stopped providing labor and delivery services. In Louisiana, three-quarters of rural hospitals no longer offer maternity care. Half a year after Ogburn left the Valley, another doctor submitted her resignation. The school’s Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology was folded into a new unit: the Division of Women’s and Children’s Health. By then, the department had shrunk to three doctors, one of whom plans to leave next spring.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/12/02/the-texas-ob-gyn-exodus

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I’m too lazy to find and post the link, but will be interesting to follow the Idaho lawsuit by 4 women who wanted babies and were denied care. Again, they did NOT want abortions, but were told they’d need them or risk harm and/or infertility. All four are young, pretty white women, so I can see it getting to the Supreme Court.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m too lazy to find and post the link, but will be interesting to follow the Idaho lawsuit by 4 women who wanted babies and were denied care. Again, they did NOT want abortions, but were told they’d need them or risk harm and/or infertility. All four are young, pretty white women, so I can see it getting to the Supreme Court.

This one?

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/11/12/four-women-challenge-idahos-abortion-ban-in-court/

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Anonymous wrote:

This states the woman died June ‘23.

Since that time miscarriages at HM are no longer handled in the ER but transferred to the OB HR at HM where they are treated by obgyn doctors and nurses who are performing d&c’s if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This states the woman died June ‘23.

Since that time miscarriages at HM are no longer handled in the ER but transferred to the OB HR at HM where they are treated by obgyn doctors and nurses who are performing d&c’s if needed.

She was the third woman to die in Texas because they couldn't get an abortion.

"Texas doctors told ProPublica the law has changed the way their colleagues see the procedure; some no longer consider it a first-line treatment, fearing legal repercussions or dissuaded by the extra legwork required to document the miscarriage and get hospital approval to carry out a D&C. This has occurred, ProPublica found, even in cases like Porsha’s where there isn’t a fetal heartbeat or the circumstances should fall under an exception in the law. Some doctors are transferring those patients to other hospitals, which delays their care, or they’re defaulting to treatments that aren’t the medical standard."

"But the ultrasound record alone was less definitive from a legal perspective, several doctors explained to ProPublica. Since Porsha had not had a prenatal visit, there was no documentation to prove she was 11 weeks along. On paper, this “pregnancy of unknown location” diagnosis could also suggest that she was only a few weeks into a normally developing pregnancy, when cardiac activity wouldn’t be detected. Texas outlaws abortion from the moment of fertilization; a record showing there is no cardiac activity isn’t enough to give physicians cover to intervene, experts said.

Dr. Gabrielle Taper, who recently worked as an OB-GYN resident in Austin, said that she regularly witnessed delays after ultrasound reports like these. “If it’s a pregnancy of unknown location, if we do something to manage it, is that considered an abortion or not?” she said, adding that this was one of the key problems she encountered. After the abortion ban went into effect, she said, “there was much more hesitation about: When can we intervene, do we have enough evidence to say this is a miscarriage, how long are we going to wait, what will we use to feel definitive?”"

"Performing a D&C, though, attracts more attention from colleagues, creating a higher barrier in a state where abortion is illegal, explained Goulding, the OB-GYN in Houston. Staff are familiar with misoprostol because it’s used for labor, and it only requires a doctor and a nurse to administer it. To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.”"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This states the woman died June ‘23.

Since that time miscarriages at HM are no longer handled in the ER but transferred to the OB HR at HM where they are treated by obgyn doctors and nurses who are performing d&c’s if needed.

She was the third woman to die in Texas because they couldn't get an abortion.

"Texas doctors told ProPublica the law has changed the way their colleagues see the procedure; some no longer consider it a first-line treatment, fearing legal repercussions or dissuaded by the extra legwork required to document the miscarriage and get hospital approval to carry out a D&C. This has occurred, ProPublica found, even in cases like Porsha’s where there isn’t a fetal heartbeat or the circumstances should fall under an exception in the law. Some doctors are transferring those patients to other hospitals, which delays their care, or they’re defaulting to treatments that aren’t the medical standard."

"But the ultrasound record alone was less definitive from a legal perspective, several doctors explained to ProPublica. Since Porsha had not had a prenatal visit, there was no documentation to prove she was 11 weeks along. On paper, this “pregnancy of unknown location” diagnosis could also suggest that she was only a few weeks into a normally developing pregnancy, when cardiac activity wouldn’t be detected. Texas outlaws abortion from the moment of fertilization; a record showing there is no cardiac activity isn’t enough to give physicians cover to intervene, experts said.

Dr. Gabrielle Taper, who recently worked as an OB-GYN resident in Austin, said that she regularly witnessed delays after ultrasound reports like these. “If it’s a pregnancy of unknown location, if we do something to manage it, is that considered an abortion or not?” she said, adding that this was one of the key problems she encountered. After the abortion ban went into effect, she said, “there was much more hesitation about: When can we intervene, do we have enough evidence to say this is a miscarriage, how long are we going to wait, what will we use to feel definitive?”"

"Performing a D&C, though, attracts more attention from colleagues, creating a higher barrier in a state where abortion is illegal, explained Goulding, the OB-GYN in Houston. Staff are familiar with misoprostol because it’s used for labor, and it only requires a doctor and a nurse to administer it. To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.”"

Omg. Can you not read or do you just blindly believe all these sensationalized stories? This death has NOTHING to do with the abortion laws. AGAIN. There has yet to be an article posted here with a death directly caused by abortion laws. The doctor gave her the abortion pill, to help her body finish expelling all the tissue, because that was the hospital’s protocol for first trimester miscarriages that needed moving along. In Texas, all forms of abortion are illegal unless medically necessary- including the pill. This isn’t a matter of denying her an abortion, the doctor failed her in using the wrong method for abortion- but the pill or a D&C have the same legal parameters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This states the woman died June ‘23.

Since that time miscarriages at HM are no longer handled in the ER but transferred to the OB HR at HM where they are treated by obgyn doctors and nurses who are performing d&c’s if needed.

She was the third woman to die in Texas because they couldn't get an abortion.

"Texas doctors told ProPublica the law has changed the way their colleagues see the procedure; some no longer consider it a first-line treatment, fearing legal repercussions or dissuaded by the extra legwork required to document the miscarriage and get hospital approval to carry out a D&C. This has occurred, ProPublica found, even in cases like Porsha’s where there isn’t a fetal heartbeat or the circumstances should fall under an exception in the law. Some doctors are transferring those patients to other hospitals, which delays their care, or they’re defaulting to treatments that aren’t the medical standard."

"But the ultrasound record alone was less definitive from a legal perspective, several doctors explained to ProPublica. Since Porsha had not had a prenatal visit, there was no documentation to prove she was 11 weeks along. On paper, this “pregnancy of unknown location” diagnosis could also suggest that she was only a few weeks into a normally developing pregnancy, when cardiac activity wouldn’t be detected. Texas outlaws abortion from the moment of fertilization; a record showing there is no cardiac activity isn’t enough to give physicians cover to intervene, experts said.

Dr. Gabrielle Taper, who recently worked as an OB-GYN resident in Austin, said that she regularly witnessed delays after ultrasound reports like these. “If it’s a pregnancy of unknown location, if we do something to manage it, is that considered an abortion or not?” she said, adding that this was one of the key problems she encountered. After the abortion ban went into effect, she said, “there was much more hesitation about: When can we intervene, do we have enough evidence to say this is a miscarriage, how long are we going to wait, what will we use to feel definitive?”"

"Performing a D&C, though, attracts more attention from colleagues, creating a higher barrier in a state where abortion is illegal, explained Goulding, the OB-GYN in Houston. Staff are familiar with misoprostol because it’s used for labor, and it only requires a doctor and a nurse to administer it. To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.”"

Omg. Can you not read or do you just blindly believe all these sensationalized stories? This death has NOTHING to do with the abortion laws. AGAIN. There has yet to be an article posted here with a death directly caused by abortion laws. The doctor gave her the abortion pill, to help her body finish expelling all the tissue, because that was the hospital’s protocol for first trimester miscarriages that needed moving along. In Texas, all forms of abortion are illegal unless medically necessary- including the pill. This isn’t a matter of denying her an abortion, the doctor failed her in using the wrong method for abortion- but the pill or a D&C have the same legal parameters

Just don't carry a pregnancy in Texas. You don't want anyone arguing about any of your medical procedures in your medical office in your ER or even on DCUM. Find a better state to do human reproduction than any state that has any kind of trump abortion ban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This states the woman died June ‘23.

Since that time miscarriages at HM are no longer handled in the ER but transferred to the OB HR at HM where they are treated by obgyn doctors and nurses who are performing d&c’s if needed.

She was the third woman to die in Texas because they couldn't get an abortion.

"Texas doctors told ProPublica the law has changed the way their colleagues see the procedure; some no longer consider it a first-line treatment, fearing legal repercussions or dissuaded by the extra legwork required to document the miscarriage and get hospital approval to carry out a D&C. This has occurred, ProPublica found, even in cases like Porsha’s where there isn’t a fetal heartbeat or the circumstances should fall under an exception in the law. Some doctors are transferring those patients to other hospitals, which delays their care, or they’re defaulting to treatments that aren’t the medical standard."

"But the ultrasound record alone was less definitive from a legal perspective, several doctors explained to ProPublica. Since Porsha had not had a prenatal visit, there was no documentation to prove she was 11 weeks along. On paper, this “pregnancy of unknown location” diagnosis could also suggest that she was only a few weeks into a normally developing pregnancy, when cardiac activity wouldn’t be detected. Texas outlaws abortion from the moment of fertilization; a record showing there is no cardiac activity isn’t enough to give physicians cover to intervene, experts said.

Dr. Gabrielle Taper, who recently worked as an OB-GYN resident in Austin, said that she regularly witnessed delays after ultrasound reports like these. “If it’s a pregnancy of unknown location, if we do something to manage it, is that considered an abortion or not?” she said, adding that this was one of the key problems she encountered. After the abortion ban went into effect, she said, “there was much more hesitation about: When can we intervene, do we have enough evidence to say this is a miscarriage, how long are we going to wait, what will we use to feel definitive?”"

"Performing a D&C, though, attracts more attention from colleagues, creating a higher barrier in a state where abortion is illegal, explained Goulding, the OB-GYN in Houston. Staff are familiar with misoprostol because it’s used for labor, and it only requires a doctor and a nurse to administer it. To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.”"

Omg. Can you not read or do you just blindly believe all these sensationalized stories? This death has NOTHING to do with the abortion laws. AGAIN. There has yet to be an article posted here with a death directly caused by abortion laws. The doctor gave her the abortion pill, to help her body finish expelling all the tissue, because that was the hospital’s protocol for first trimester miscarriages that needed moving along. In Texas, all forms of abortion are illegal unless medically necessary- including the pill. This isn’t a matter of denying her an abortion, the doctor failed her in using the wrong method for abortion- but the pill or a D&C have the same legal parameters

Clearly, you didn’t read.

“ To do a procedure, on the other hand, a doctor would need to find an operating room, an anesthesiologist and a nursing team. “You have to convince everyone that it is legal and won’t put them at risk,” said Goulding. “Many people may be afraid and misinformed and refuse to participate — even if it’s for a miscarriage.””

Republicans are killing women.

[Anonymous]

She’s black.
No one is going to care.
I hate what this country has become.

[Anonymous]

Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

Fine waste your time, but most people don't share this fear and outrage that you do, it's not winning you the big elections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drop it. This isn't the political mobilizer you think it is.

No. We won’t drop it.
We’ll continue to show the republicans for what they have become.
We will do it with the understanding of who the American people are, but we won’t stop.

Fine waste your time, but most people don't share this fear and outrage that you do, it's not winning you the big elections.

It has won many elections. Trump's second term is a disaster.