ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:For club players their last chance to impress is their junior year season. For Trapped players they basically dont have a normal team to play on and have to hope that they have been spotted in their sophomore year.


Trapped players don’t lose their junior season….


Yes they do. Why you ask? Because during their prime recruiting year when they should be at showcases, they are on a team full of seniors who are focussed elsewhere and bail out- especially if they have decided they don’t want to play in college. They don’t want to go to showcases (too busy studying for SAT, applications etc) and they just don’t care by that point. The junior player is at the beck and call of a team of checked out seniors. Could they go find another club. Of course! But it would still be with seniors who in a different life stage with different priorities. They can’t even get the seniors out to practice 3 days a week much less travel to all the showcases-especially those in March- May which should be the prime time for the junior. It’s an albatross being on a senior team when you are not a senior.


Jesus man, listen to yourself. You’re blaming other kids for your kids outcome.

What you’re saying is “they don’t have the team I want them to have, with a focus the benefits my kid.”

Clearly your club doesn’t send teams to nationals or even the consolation nationals, and the kids have nothing to play for (including college). Sounds like a club change is needed, not a universal rule change.
You misread it. They are faulting the calendar year date cutoffs for putting kids in different school grades on the same team.


No they got it right. Everything is everyone else's fault. Grow up, actively recruit for your decent player. If your kid is good enough coaches will be interested. Stop blaming everything else under the sun for why a 'younger kid' doesn't make it to whatever you expect them to make. Kids making National teams at 15/16 and the a national team in their late teens should be more than enough to make you fall birthday parents shut up about how unfair the world is to your previous fall babies.

Face facts: your kid isn't as great as you think they are. That's the problem not the birth cut off.


Fun fact: your kid isn’t good. Just older. Good luck on the B team. Sorry man. Maybe invest time in helping your kid develop skills instead of whining about the change.


The logic these sorts of takes required is astounding.

“My younger but same age kid isn’t as good as your older but same age kid, but my kid is ACTUALLY better because they are younger and have (1 to 11) months to make up an deficiencies.”

It’s such an outsider perspective that is uninformed.

If the kids are 8/9 sure…you’ve got time.

10/12…better hurry up and close that gap.

13+ the ability to bridge the gap becomes exponentially harder and more expensive (hence why all sports lose nearly 80% of their youth players at this stage).

Hard truth! If you’re not the best or in the “top” mix between 8-12 you are not going to be the best at 13+ and very rarely will you make the jump to be “in the mix.”

The goal of every top 8-12yo is to increase the talent delta between themselves and the rest. The idea that some “Moe” big dumb oaf is taking up all the high talent roster spots is 20 years out of date.


400 pages and you still won't get it. You're kid isn't better because they are Q1, they were just given the advantage. All SY fans are saying is why does my Q4 kid need to compete their entire lives with kids they won't even be recruited with. That's it! If someone is getting an advantage (and the advantage is obvious if youre looking), make it classmates against classmates.

My daughter is incredible. She starts, plenty of playing time, lots of recognition, etc. But the difference between JUCO and Florida State recruiting is vast. I get this isn't an issue for the 99% of you that aren't college bound. You're talking about rec league playing time. I'm talking about national team level exposure. We're not concerned about the same issues and we aren't talking the same language. I don't expect you to understand why this all matters so much to the kids with the most talent. I see why your confused but to our defense this is the ENCL thread, not the AYSO thread.
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ECNL should just make the change for 25 and everyone else can follow in 26. There is no reason to keep having trapped players.

47% are ready to go...
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Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.
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Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.


What are you talking about, they thanked them first. You guys are clueless. US Club = ECNL.
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Thank you soccer leadership for this wonderful cluster. This upcoming season will be a total, scrambling mess given its ‘temporary’ status for all teams and players who know things are changing next season.

Honestly this is the best they could come up with? Let’s announce 16 months in advance a change and expect everybody to go about their business under an umbrella of uncertainty for over a year. Lovely.

Change management 101…



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Anonymous wrote:"No change for the 2025-2026 season. There should be no registration change for the
2025-2026 season. This allows organizations transitioning to school year calendars to
prepare their operations and provide the best experience for all participants. The
RECOMMENDATION is based on overwhelming feedback from the engagement process."

US Club will change next fall, believe that.


Yup ECNL changing things up Fall 25! Also I heard the 12% was people mostly wanting grad year.


What's the difference between GY and SY?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.


What are you talking about, they thanked them first. You guys are clueless. US Club = ECNL.


If the google doc is real, I think it gives US Club enough wiggle room to start immediately, even if that means some sort of waiver system for the rest of 25'.
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Anonymous wrote:ECNL should just make the change for 25 and everyone else can follow in 26. There is no reason to keep having trapped players.

47% are ready to go...[/

100%
Bet it’s higher than 47% for ECNL
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Anonymous wrote:Thank you soccer leadership for this wonderful cluster. This upcoming season will be a total, scrambling mess given its ‘temporary’ status for all teams and players who know things are changing next season.

Honestly this is the best they could come up with? Let’s announce 16 months in advance a change and expect everybody to go about their business under an umbrella of uncertainty for over a year. Lovely.

Change management 101…


Straight Facts!


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.


What are you talking about, they thanked them first. You guys are clueless. US Club = ECNL.


If the google doc is real, I think it gives US Club enough wiggle room to start immediately, even if that means some sort of waiver system for the rest of 25'.


Whoever starts earlier will be able to get more Q3/4 players, currently there’s a lack of a full age group in the older teams. Those clubs that start early will be able to have plenty of players when time comes and all the other leagues do it formally.
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Im ready for the next ECNL Podcast!

Lets roll!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"No change for the 2025-2026 season. There should be no registration change for the
2025-2026 season. This allows organizations transitioning to school year calendars to
prepare their operations and provide the best experience for all participants. The
RECOMMENDATION is based on overwhelming feedback from the engagement process."

US Club will change next fall, believe that.


Yup ECNL changing things up Fall 25! Also I heard the 12% was people mostly wanting grad year.


What's the difference between GY and SY?


GY (Grade Year) means your age group is based on the year you graduate, regardless of your actual age.
SY (School Year) means your age group is based on the year you SHOULD graduate based on your birth date (players in the age group will all be the same relative age within the timeframe specified).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.


What are you talking about, they thanked them first. You guys are clueless. US Club = ECNL.


I think we will start to see teams form soon, even if it means playing up through spring, might as well get moving on it.

If the google doc is real, I think it gives US Club enough wiggle room to start immediately, even if that means some sort of waiver system for the rest of 25'.


Whoever starts earlier will be able to get more Q3/4 players, currently there’s a lack of a full age group in the older teams. Those clubs that start early will be able to have plenty of players when time comes and all the other leagues do it formally.


I think we will start to see teams form soon, even if it means playing up through spring, might as well get moving on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.
Agree on ECNL but they are in US Club so maybe that is close enough?

The PDF was just vague enough to give the impression that local leagues/ rec can do whatever they want (there is no official definition of rec though) but the other sides of the national ecosystem may not get full latitude.

(If of course you read the PDF with correct amount of paranoia and knowing the bad blood between US Soccer and ECNL and knowing they have to both be salivating over the $30 mill donation.)

MLS Next would maybe be pre professional then NAL, EDP, etc. probably competitive travel. With ECNL/RL possibly both, the PDF isn't clear if these parts of the "ecosystem" will have joint dates or latitude to go their own way.

And splitting dates for MLS Next and NAL makes no sense and splitting ECNL/RL makes no sense.

Seems US Soccer could still try to poke ECNL/RL with a stick.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How loud is the silence on ECNL?? Thats what makes the 'leak' legit in my mind and I hope it means someone is about to go rogue.


ECNL goes rogue with a fall 25 change!?

That would be bold.


That would be too bold. If there was no change ever, maybe. But pushing it to 26 has to be just enough to make ECNL grumble, go along with it, and just make some transitory change for 25.


I'd be with you on the logic here but zero mention in the announcement? They thanked everyone and their grandma for their input and alignment but ECNL, the #1 talent destination for female players doesn't even get a nod. No way that's by accident. They question is, why? I look forward to 70 pages of speculation but my guess is they made their position clear...and its threatening.


What are you talking about, they thanked them first. You guys are clueless. US Club = ECNL.


If the google doc is real, I think it gives US Club enough wiggle room to start immediately, even if that means some sort of waiver system for the rest of 25'.


Whoever starts earlier will be able to get more Q3/4 players, currently there’s a lack of a full age group in the older teams. Those clubs that start early will be able to have plenty of players when time comes and all the other leagues do it formally.

All GA has to do is allow biobanding then stay BY. (Just like MLSN)

One step closer to NWSL Next.
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