Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:The sooner Hamas surrenders, the sooner Gazan civilians can go back to their lives. But instead, Hamas is choosing to pointlessly prolong a fight that is only causing them destruction.


Members of the Israeli cabinet are already talking about ethnic cleansing on a massive scale followed by settlements in Gaza


If Hamas doesn't give up, that is a potential outcome.


It's also a crime against humanity. Not punishing a populace for the crimes of their leaders is a pretty key tenant of the laws of war.


It's also a crime against humanity to hide behind civilians, putting them in harm's way. That is also a major violation of the laws of war, along with using schools, hospitals and refugee camps to attack, wearing civilian clothing, et cetera. Yet these tactics are central to Hamas strategy in Gaza.
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Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2


Houthi's FAFO.

They shouldn't have been bombing international ships in the Red Sea.


Great another front in the never ending war that is the US support for Israel.


Bombing Houthi miliary warehouses has nothing to do with Gaza and everything to do with making sure soverign vessels have access to the red sea.


Well it has to do with both Gaza and safe passage for vessels since the Houthhis started this in response to Gaza bombardment.


Indiscriminate Houthi attacks on random civilian shipping vessels was never a legitimate response to Israel.


And I think indiscriminate bombing on civilians, intentionally starving over two million people, and killing journalists reporting on the atrocities is not a legitimate response to the attacks of 10/7. Yet that is what Israel has chosen to do.


Israel is providing food convoys. Hamas is the one that has chosen a path of intercepting, withholding and stealing food and supplies for themselves, leaving civilians to starve and go without medicine. How is that legitimate?


Israel is the one that is starving the people of Gaza. And Israel is the one that bombed the hospitals. Israel is the one that does not allow sufficient medical deliveries. There are international organizations, the UN, and many other countries and NGOs providing aid. To say that "Israel is providing food convoys" is not accurate.

The amount of aid that Israel is allowing in is minuscule.

The inspection process for these deliveries is ridiculous.

The NYT had an article yesterday about the delivery of aid:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-aid-trucks.html

Sen. Van Hollen was at the Rafah crossing and released a statment two days ago:

“To be sure, there is much room to improve the logistics for the delivery of goods from the Egyptian side of the border and other parts of the humanitarian supply chain; however, it is clear from what we witnessed, and the first-hand accounts that we heard, that decisions made by the Netanyahu government have erected a variety of barriers that are preventing the delivery of sufficient life-sustaining goods from reaching innocent Palestinians in Gaza.

https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/news/press-releases/van-hollen-merkley-press-for-action-following-trip-to-rafah-crossing-egypt-jordan
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The sooner Hamas surrenders, the sooner Gazan civilians can go back to their lives. But instead, Hamas is choosing to pointlessly prolong a fight that is only causing them destruction.


We all know that is not true. This is not about Hamas. It is about killing Palestinians. The IDF by their own admission say there are over 20,000 Hamas fighter still active and 75% of the “tunnel complex” has not been taken. I really question these numbers(seems very made up Israel’s intelligence services) but it an admission the IDF has failed in Gaza. If the IDF wanted to take out Hamas they would have done it now. Gaza is just not that big.

Israel will achieved a Pyrrhic victory. When Netanyahu opens the next front in Lebanon it will tax the IDF to its breaking point. Though he is the only one who will stand up to the US/Biden and keep Israel safe.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2


Houthi's FAFO.

They shouldn't have been bombing international ships in the Red Sea.


Great another front in the never ending war that is the US support for Israel.


Bombing Houthi miliary warehouses has nothing to do with Gaza and everything to do with making sure soverign vessels have access to the red sea.


Well it has to do with both Gaza and safe passage for vessels since the Houthhis started this in response to Gaza bombardment.


Indiscriminate Houthi attacks on random civilian shipping vessels was never a legitimate response to Israel.


And I think indiscriminate bombing on civilians, intentionally starving over two million people, and killing journalists reporting on the atrocities is not a legitimate response to the attacks of 10/7. Yet that is what Israel has chosen to do.


Sure, Israel is supposed to just let 10/7 attacks happen, just let thousands of rockets a year rain on them, attack after attack, ceasefire violation after ceasefire violation, with zero repercussion. Sorry but 10/7 was a straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back situation. 10/7 made it clear that Hamas needs to cease to exist. And the only reason civilians are being bombed and are suffering is because Hamas is hiding behind them.

Hamas is to blame here. If Hamas didn't exist, none of this would have happened. You will never get me to agree to your deflections away from Hamas. Ever.


Really? Was Hamas hiding behind the elderly mother and her daughter who were assassinated by a sniper while walking across a Catholic church courtyard? Or was Hamas hiding behind the mother who was assassinated by a sniper while following evacuation orders, a white flag in her hand as she held her four year old’s hand with her other hand? The babies left to die in NICU units? What did those people do to deserve those bullets, that fate?

Supporters of Israel’s actions are sick and irredeemable. 10/7 will never justify Israel’s response, much less justify the decades of Israeli atrocities prior to 10/7. But thankfully, karma will eventually come for Zionists. May she offer no mercy, and no end to the suffering.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The sooner Hamas surrenders, the sooner Gazan civilians can go back to their lives. But instead, Hamas is choosing to pointlessly prolong a fight that is only causing them destruction.


Members of the Israeli cabinet are already talking about ethnic cleansing on a massive scale followed by settlements in Gaza


If Hamas doesn't give up, that is a potential outcome.


It's also a crime against humanity. Not punishing a populace for the crimes of their leaders is a pretty key tenant of the laws of war.


It's also a crime against humanity to hide behind civilians, putting them in harm's way. That is also a major violation of the laws of war, along with using schools, hospitals and refugee camps to attack, wearing civilian clothing, et cetera. Yet these tactics are central to Hamas strategy in Gaza.


OK, punish hamas for their crimes and punish the IDF and Israeli government for their crimes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The sooner Hamas surrenders, the sooner Gazan civilians can go back to their lives. But instead, Hamas is choosing to pointlessly prolong a fight that is only causing them destruction.


Members of the Israeli cabinet are already talking about ethnic cleansing on a massive scale followed by settlements in Gaza


If Hamas doesn't give up, that is a potential outcome.


It's also a crime against humanity. Not punishing a populace for the crimes of their leaders is a pretty key tenant of the laws of war.


It's also a crime against humanity to hide behind civilians, putting them in harm's way. That is also a major violation of the laws of war, along with using schools, hospitals and refugee camps to attack, wearing civilian clothing, et cetera. Yet these tactics are central to Hamas strategy in Gaza.

I keep hearing this same theory repeated all the time
Yes, it is a densely populated area, if you bomb a school because somewhere there was a Hamas soldier then you do kill everyone in the school
Every bombing is justified by the statement that there somewhere must have been a Hamas soldier
Anonymous
Ever notice that every terrorist group the US targets is an organization that got its start because of Israel?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ever notice that every terrorist group the US targets is an organization that got its start because of Israel?


FARC?

Daesh?

Tamil Tigers?

Ever notice that people on the internet make sh*t up?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The sooner Hamas surrenders, the sooner Gazan civilians can go back to their lives. But instead, Hamas is choosing to pointlessly prolong a fight that is only causing them destruction.


Members of the Israeli cabinet are already talking about ethnic cleansing on a massive scale followed by settlements in Gaza


If Hamas doesn't give up, that is a potential outcome.


It's also a crime against humanity. Not punishing a populace for the crimes of their leaders is a pretty key tenant of the laws of war.


It's also a crime against humanity to hide behind civilians, putting them in harm's way. That is also a major violation of the laws of war, along with using schools, hospitals and refugee camps to attack, wearing civilian clothing, et cetera. Yet these tactics are central to Hamas strategy in Gaza.


Fine - but if the international community can round up the Israel war criminals, and put them on trial first, so be it. They are despicable and inspire hatred against Jews everywhere in the world.
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Anonymous wrote:Ever notice that every terrorist group the US targets is an organization that got its start because of Israel?


You mean because the terror groups hate Jews…and Americans…and basically everyone who isn’t a devout follower of whatever religious extremism they claim to fight for (*and sometimes they still fight against those “brothers in arms” when it feels right)?

I’ve come to accept that you can’t negotiate with terrorists and live peacefully with them. Their commitment to killing and dying for some religious cause makes it impossible to tolerate their behavior or beliefs let alone attempt to coexist with them.
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Anonymous wrote:This isn't good.


I think this is a mistake. The Houthi's will not stop now. It will only escalate.


The houthis were already escalating.

They are terrorists backed by Iran who hate America. Their only purpose is to wreak havoc.

Want something to worry about? Go onto the DHS website and see how many Yemenis entered the US in the last year or two along with Iranis and people from other countries that hate America. You’ll note they are all young men. Worry about acts of terror on US soil.

You’ll say, “That’s why we shouldn’t have bombed. Why poke the bear?”

Doesn’t matter. Iran is angling for war and will use their chess pieces to provoke until we engage. Swift and brutal response will be necessary.

This is terrible
If Israel could just end its brutal campaign of mightily vengeance, we would have world peace


You’re being facetious, right?

Because Iran and the Houthis couldn’t care less about what’s happening to the Palestinians in Gaza. If anything, they just want to fight.

Thugs gonna thug. Terrorists gonna terror. Poorly educated misogynists bizarrely fueled by “religious” hate against anyone who doesn’t share their anti-everything beliefs gonna be a problem for the civilized world.


Hmm....in another words, you think that the years of bombing Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world, had nothing to do with what the Houthis do?

Interesting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2


Houthi's FAFO.

They shouldn't have been bombing international ships in the Red Sea.


Great another front in the never ending war that is the US support for Israel.


Bombing Houthi miliary warehouses has nothing to do with Gaza and everything to do with making sure soverign vessels have access to the red sea.


Well it has to do with both Gaza and safe passage for vessels since the Houthhis started this in response to Gaza bombardment.


Indiscriminate Houthi attacks on random civilian shipping vessels was never a legitimate response to Israel.


And I think indiscriminate bombing on civilians, intentionally starving over two million people, and killing journalists reporting on the atrocities is not a legitimate response to the attacks of 10/7. Yet that is what Israel has chosen to do.


Sure, Israel is supposed to just let 10/7 attacks happen, just let thousands of rockets a year rain on them, attack after attack, ceasefire violation after ceasefire violation, with zero repercussion. Sorry but 10/7 was a straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back situation. 10/7 made it clear that Hamas needs to cease to exist. And the only reason civilians are being bombed and are suffering is because Hamas is hiding behind them.

Hamas is to blame here. If Hamas didn't exist, none of this would have happened. You will never get me to agree to your deflections away from Hamas. Ever.


So you're saying, if not for Hamas, Israel would not be annexing the West Bank, unleashing settler militias on the Palestinians, build illegal settlements or put people in administrative detention?

Okay. Interesting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2


Houthi's FAFO.

They shouldn't have been bombing international ships in the Red Sea.


Great another front in the never ending war that is the US support for Israel.


Bombing Houthi miliary warehouses has nothing to do with Gaza and everything to do with making sure soverign vessels have access to the red sea.


Well it has to do with both Gaza and safe passage for vessels since the Houthhis started this in response to Gaza bombardment.


Indiscriminate Houthi attacks on random civilian shipping vessels was never a legitimate response to Israel.


And I think indiscriminate bombing on civilians, intentionally starving over two million people, and killing journalists reporting on the atrocities is not a legitimate response to the attacks of 10/7. Yet that is what Israel has chosen to do.


Israel is providing food convoys. Hamas is the one that has chosen a path of intercepting, withholding and stealing food and supplies for themselves, leaving civilians to starve and go without medicine. How is that legitimate?


You're saying we should believe you, and not multiple statements by Israeli officials about blocking food supplies to Gaza? Explicitly calling for starving the population until they leave?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This isn't good.


I think this is a mistake. The Houthi's will not stop now. It will only escalate.


The houthis were already escalating.

They are terrorists backed by Iran who hate America. Their only purpose is to wreak havoc.

Want something to worry about? Go onto the DHS website and see how many Yemenis entered the US in the last year or two along with Iranis and people from other countries that hate America. You’ll note they are all young men. Worry about acts of terror on US soil.

You’ll say, “That’s why we shouldn’t have bombed. Why poke the bear?”

Doesn’t matter. Iran is angling for war and will use their chess pieces to provoke until we engage. Swift and brutal response will be necessary.

This is terrible
If Israel could just end its brutal campaign of mightily vengeance, we would have world peace


You’re being facetious, right?

Because Iran and the Houthis couldn’t care less about what’s happening to the Palestinians in Gaza. If anything, they just want to fight.

Thugs gonna thug. Terrorists gonna terror. Poorly educated misogynists bizarrely fueled by “religious” hate against anyone who doesn’t share their anti-everything beliefs gonna be a problem for the civilized world.


Hmm....in another words, you think that the years of bombing Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world, had nothing to do with what the Houthis do?

Interesting.


Bombing by whom? The Houthis or the Saudi-backed coalition supporting the nation’s government? Or the recent bombing by the US and UK?

It’s hard to sort through this when religious extremist terrorists keep popping up and provoking military responses, right?
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