Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

I don’t have a great family. I have a screwed up, dysfunctional one. But I have still managed to maintain connections to many of my family members. Just because my family isn’t perfect and has caused me pain doesn’t mean all of my family members are irredeemable and deserve to be cut off forever. For one thing, cutting them off would mean my DD would lose relationships with her cousins, and she doesn’t deserve that.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

She didn’t invite anyone from Doria’s side either.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

What an interesting coincidence that the only nice one happens to be the Queen. Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

How do you know any of this? I just don't believe we have any way of gauging the truth of her upbringing. There is no narrator that isn't self serving in some way on this. They divorced amicably but she bounced back and forth between their houses most of her childhood. They divorced when she was 2 and she likely has absolutely no memory of living or spending any substantial time with her half siblings. We just have no idea about any of this. It sounds like her parents were crappy parents and mostly focused on themselves. Her dad left his first family to go pursue the hollywood dream and then just dragged her along still doing it.

I felt like it was telling that SO MANY of the suits cast and crew were at the wedding and spoke highly of her.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

How do you know any of this? I just don't believe we have any way of gauging the truth of her upbringing. There is no narrator that isn't self serving in some way on this. They divorced amicably but she bounced back and forth between their houses most of her childhood. They divorced when she was 2 and she likely has absolutely no memory of living or spending any substantial time with her half siblings. We just have no idea about any of this. It sounds like her parents were crappy parents and mostly focused on themselves. Her dad left his first family to go pursue the hollywood dream and then just dragged her along still doing it.

I felt like it was telling that SO MANY of the suits cast and crew were at the wedding and spoke highly of her.

DP. Of course other celebrities want to be in her good graces now that she is married to Harry and is tight with Oprah. There’s nothing surprising about that.

Also her dad has shared a good deal of evidence from not so long ago of Meghan praising his parenting and telling him how much she loves and is grateful for him (e.g., long, personal messages in her cards to him). Why was she saying those things to him if they weren’t true?

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

I don’t think she has a strained relationship with her mom’s family. I read some interview from her cousin and he was disappointed not to be invited but didn’t sound like they had an issues.

Also Samantha is a half sibling. That is not the same thing as an actual sibling especially if your parents got divorced as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

So we are just ignoring her dad doing a bunch of interviews about her? Just because she was close doesn’t mean he is infallible.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

So we are just ignoring her dad doing a bunch of interviews about her? Just because she was close doesn’t mean he is infallible.

Meghan’s also done a bunch of interviews about the BRF……

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

How do you know any of this? I just don't believe we have any way of gauging the truth of her upbringing. There is no narrator that isn't self serving in some way on this. They divorced amicably but she bounced back and forth between their houses most of her childhood. They divorced when she was 2 and she likely has absolutely no memory of living or spending any substantial time with her half siblings. We just have no idea about any of this. It sounds like her parents were crappy parents and mostly focused on themselves. Her dad left his first family to go pursue the hollywood dream and then just dragged her along still doing it.

I felt like it was telling that SO MANY of the suits cast and crew were at the wedding and spoke highly of her.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the Queen is standing by the BBC’s story that she wasn’t consulted on the name “Lilibet,” despite H&M’s threats to sue the BBC. Could get interesting.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-war-with-the-royals-hits-fever-pitch-over-lilibet

It continues to reinforce these 2 are a hot mess together. Did anyone see the interview with Meghan's dad? Very sad, that man put her through college and seemed like a good dad. Still whatever her gripes it doesn't amount to being cut off. Actually her dad made a lot of good points.

I'm not a Meghan hater but the recent 60 minutes interview with her father is really sad.

A good father doesn’t sell his daughter out to the press no matter the state of their relationship

She sold out her family and Harry's on Oprah. She actually made her father look pretty good at this point.

Both of them certainly seem willing to sell out their family in the media. No question about that.

But I think a large part of why she cut him off is because he’s poor, fat, and embarrassing. She knew the pics of the future king walking her down the aisle would look way better than her dad doing it.

He's not poor actually, won awards as a lighting director. And he has a nice home right on the ocean. She did herself in to begin with. I would have invited the entire family to the wedding and treated them well. Guaranteed Samantha etc. wouldn't have felt slighted nor given up the goods on the "real Meghan". She should have ignored her dad's photo op, quietly asked him not to do that, but let it go. Instead she compounded everything. If there was to be any embarrassment it was that long winded preacher that tried to use the spotlight, and her mom's nose ring which was tacky for that type of event with the royals no less. Not to mention she invited strangers but not her own family. She went to Samantha graduation and was on good terms before the slight, it wouldn't have hurt. Then send them the occasional update, and phone call. That's what decent people do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle

Okay, not “poor” necessarily then, but he didn’t represent the socioeconomic class values that she wanted to represent. (Also, winning professional awards doesn’t mean you have money. Neither does having a small home on the beach in Mexico.) But you make some good points. Agree that inviting A-list strangers but only a single family member is extremely questionable.

He travels between Mexico and LA where he has another home. Also, Meghan has nieces, cousins, aunts, and uncles on both sides. What about Doria's side? It would have made her look 100% better if she had her family there. She could afford to wine and dine them instead of snubbing them. They were blindsided and hurt understandably. While I don't agree with how much her sister has spoken out, it was pretty cold. Samantha says she's probably embarrassed because she's in a wheel chair. Don't many of us have embarrassing family members? My DH has quite a few, but still he treats them well. I wonder if she regrets her actions, it certainly caused a media storm which keeps continuing.

She hasn't spoken to Samantha in like 20 years. Seriously that isn't a snub its called like, not pretending someone is close to you just to get media points.

It's not normal to not invite a sister to a wedding, unless it's a small, tiny wedding. Which this wasn't. Even a sister you're not close to.

Exactly. Especially when you're inviting celebrities you don't know. I'm pretty sure Meghan isn't close to Idris Elba, Oprah, George and Amal Clooney, James Corden, James blunt, and don't forget Nacho Figueras the famous polo player...among many others! Seriously think about it. A ton of famous people were invited yet left out 99% of her family from both sides. I'm glad her sister has called her out. I've looked up some of her accusations, and 99% she has been correct. Meghan made a speech at a university and claimed she made it through from working and grants. The real story was her dad paid for it. Her lack of character has been the problem all along.

Not close to but not estranged from. It sounds like Meghan was estranged from Samantha. She clearly has a strained relationship with that side of the family, and inviting family you have a strained relationship with is not something anyone is obligated to do. Especially when those people spend the months leading up to the event attempting to profit off of it.

Neither you nor I have any idea what her growing up was really like, what her dad really paid for, what he didn't, what strings were attached to the money he gave. Maybe you're right, maybe he was manipulative and lies all the time, honestly we do not know.

Coming from a very difficult family situation myself where money was used to control and where people rewrite the truth to frame themselves in positive lights, I would never jump to conclusions based on a view that has been very much curated by her dad and sister (but not full sister right?)

DP. She has strained relationships with every side of her family. She is on good terms with a single family member (Doria).

Yeah those of you with great families really seem to feel like this means something. Those of us with difficult families understand nuance. She's close to the person who raised her. She has a close and loyal group of friends. We see two different stories when looking at those facts and I doubt either of us will convince the other we are right.

DP. She wasn't close to her mother until the past few years. And she was raised by both her mother and father, they had an apparently amicable divorce and split custody.

But yes, she's definitely a victim of all those mean family members. Except for Elizabeth. She's nice...

So we are just ignoring her dad doing a bunch of interviews about her? Just because she was close doesn’t mean he is infallible.

Yes we’ve already established that both Meghan and her dad like to run to the media to trash their family. No doubt about that.