So, what is wrong with Hardy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations Hardy bashers. You've pushed the thread past the 30-page mark. Only 70 more to go to beat the other trash-Hardy-with-the-same-four-recycled-topics thread.

Keep up the hate!!![/quote

Enough with the "hate" and "haters" talk. So cliched and overblown, and obscures legitimate concerns and criticisms about Hardy. That said, there is almost a visceral aversion to Hardy among parents in my upper NW neighborhood, that it's just no where near up to Deal standards. It would be difficult, even at gunpoint, for DCPS to get them to consider Hardy anytime soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations Hardy bashers. You've pushed the thread past the 30-page mark. Only 70 more to go to beat the other trash-Hardy-with-the-same-four-recycled-topics thread.

Keep up the hate!!!

Enough with the "hate" and "haters" talk. So cliched and overblown, and obscures legitimate concerns and criticisms about Hardy. That said, there is almost a visceral aversion to Hardy among parents in my upper NW neighborhood, that it's just no where near up to Deal standards. It would be difficult, even at gunpoint, for DCPS to get them to consider Hardy anytime soon.

When pressed, what are their reasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations Hardy bashers. You've pushed the thread past the 30-page mark. Only 70 more to go to beat the other trash-Hardy-with-the-same-four-recycled-topics thread.

Keep up the hate!!![/quote

Enough with the "hate" and "haters" talk. So cliched and overblown, and obscures legitimate concerns and criticisms about Hardy. That said, there is almost a visceral aversion to Hardy among parents in my upper NW neighborhood, that it's just no where near up to Deal standards. It would be difficult, even at gunpoint, for DCPS to get them to consider Hardy anytime soon.

Ha! Did you even read what you wrote? Don't call us haters just because we wouldn't consider Hardy, EVEN AT GUNPOINT! But it's an exaggeration to say we hate it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations Hardy bashers. You've pushed the thread past the 30-page mark. Only 70 more to go to beat the other trash-Hardy-with-the-same-four-recycled-topics thread.

Keep up the hate!!![/quote

Enough with the "hate" and "haters" talk. So cliched and overblown, and obscures legitimate concerns and criticisms about Hardy. That said, there is almost a visceral aversion to Hardy among parents in my upper NW neighborhood, that it's just no where near up to Deal standards. It would be difficult, even at gunpoint, for DCPS to get them to consider Hardy anytime soon.

Ha! Did you even read what you wrote? Don't call us haters just because we wouldn't consider Hardy, EVEN AT GUNPOINT! But it's an exaggeration to say we hate it!

Ha! DCPS showed up at John Eaton this year, pointed a gun and asked "You know what time it is?"

Time to make them go to Hardy, apparently. It's not enough just to mug them for their tax money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

The fact that you honestly believe this statement does not make it true, PP.

There are powerful forces at play, not the least of which are the demographics of DC, that will prevent IB families from shaping Hardy into the school they long for.

[Anonymous]

No there are not.

--IB Mann.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

The fact that you honestly believe this statement does not make it true, PP.

There are powerful forces at play, not the least of which are the demographics of DC, that will prevent IB families from shaping Hardy into the school they long for.

Ha. This is ridiculous. The notion that DCPS - which cannot do anything effectively - can somehow put "strong forces" into play that would override the simple act of powerful Ward 3 families filling Hardy up with IB families is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

The fact that you honestly believe this statement does not make it true, PP.

There are powerful forces at play, not the least of which are the demographics of DC, that will prevent IB families from shaping Hardy into the school they long for.

Ha. This is ridiculous. The notion that DCPS - which cannot do anything effectively - can somehow put "strong forces" into play that would override the simple act of powerful Ward 3 families filling Hardy up with IB families is absurd.

Why don't we put this endless debate to rest, PPs.

Let's agree to disagree for the time being. We can resurrect this thread on 3/15/16 and see how Hardy has improved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

So you're saying to send a few more high SES kids to Hardy, goose the school test scores and presto!, it's the school everyone wants?! I don't think so. You're saying that a few more high performing students determine a school's success. If that's the case, why not just fire most of the admin and the faculty and give the taxpayers a tax cut? I don't thin it works that way. Hardy's problems go a lot deeper than lacking a few more well prepared, high SES students.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

So you're saying to send a few more high SES kids to Hardy, goose the school test scores and presto!, it's the school everyone wants?! I don't think so. You're saying that a few more high performing students determine a school's success. If that's the case, why not just fire most of the admin and the faculty and give the taxpayers a tax cut? I don't thin it works that way. Hardy's problems go a lot deeper than lacking a few more well prepared, high SES students.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

[Anonymous]

So you're saying to send a few more high SES kids to Hardy, goose the school test scores and presto!, it's the school everyone wants?! I don't think so. You're saying that a few more high performing students determine a school's success. If that's the case, why not just fire most of the admin and the faculty and give the taxpayers a tax cut? I don't thin it works that way. Hardy's problems go a lot deeper than lacking a few more well prepared, high SES students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if ALL OOB applicants are accepted at Hardy, then the ENTIRE city already has it as another option.

For all those saying, "I'm zoned for Deal but would go to Hardy." There you are! It is open and ready for you.

And if you look at the map of where Hardy kids come from:
http://edu.codefordc.org/#!/school/246

You'll see that very close to zero of them come from within the Deal boundaries. Maybe a handful from Shepherd Park, the map is imprecise. But it's fewer than ten.

Now, there may be some kids who are OOB for Deal but have the right to attend -- Deal is over a third OOB after all -- who opt for Hardy, they wouldn't show on the map. And it may be that last year was a fluke, that people didn't apply for Hardy because they thought it was hard to get into.

So you're saying to send a few more high SES kids to Hardy, goose the school test scores and presto!, it's the school everyone wants?! I don't think so. You're saying that a few more high performing students determine a school's success. If that's the case, why not just fire most of the admin and the faculty and give the taxpayers a tax cut? I don't thin it works that way. Hardy's problems go a lot deeper than lacking a few more well prepared, high SES students.

This map is kind of amazing. Everyone should see it at least once. Really illustrates the crazy situation we have in DC public education.

We have a neighborhood-school based system that's a fiction for all but a few neighborhoods. For three quarters of the kids the reality is we have a city-wide lottery. Middle school is where those realities collide. Two thirds of the kids who go to neighborhood elementary schools get to go to a neighborhood-ish middle school, Deal. The other third find themselves deported to lottery land, and they don't like it there at all.

And then there are the neighborhood elementary schools that drew the short straw and are stuck with Hardy, and the neighborhood kids basically don't go there at all.

These people didn't draw the short straw - the cut the straw themselves. All they have to do is send their kids to Hardy and it will be the school they want it to be.

DCPS hasn't been successful in persuading Ward 3 families to go to Hardy so now they're trying to force more of them instead. Shows that Kay-a hasn't got a clue on how to turn around a school.