Pitt Jolie FINALLY reach divorce settlement

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

He was filming F1 for months His own team said the filming interfered with his visitations. Excuse on top on excuses

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

Bringing up how he's never supported the outsiders or reefer madness. He's not interested in those kids. Who cares. People here were desperately holding on to them not because they care but so his image can bounce back as a family man and as the drunken father he is. Too late

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

He pays a huge amount in child support. He has no option but to work.

HAHA LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

He was filming F1 for months His own team said the filming interfered with his visitations. Excuse on top on excuses

She moved the kids away. She could have brought them to visit. Or her Nannie’s that he paid for.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

He pays a huge amount in child support. He has no option but to work.

HAHA LOL

This fight is about money.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

Mom wanted them to be artistic, she said it many times. Even if they have no talent and it couldn't lead to any kind of a real job other than a nepo one.

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Why does Holie keep doing pap strolls with her children at this grocery store? She is also putting out PR about having her friends stay at her house during the wild fires. She seems to be desperately campaigning for an Oscar, but she has been snubbed by her peers for nominations at the major awards.

This says nothing good about you.

She’s a tramp who sleeps with married and engaged men.

And Brad? He cheated on at least one wife (surely Jolie as well), and had a married young girfriend after separating from Jolie.

I have never heard of Brad having an affair outside of Jolie. People were shocked when the story of the affair broke because his behavior seemed so out of character for him. People were not shocked by Jolie engaging in an affair, because she was known as a serial other woman (Billy Bob) and bragged about bedding random men in hotel rooms. But I was shocked by her cruelty, the way she dug the knife into Jennifer with her public comments bragging about being a mistress. I don’t know why she has released all of these victimhood stories about her break up with Brad. Many of us in the public will never like her or see her as a victim due to her notorious behavior and image that she created for herself.

Rumored to have had an affair with Marion Cotillard, confirmed had an affair with Angelina Jolie and confirmed was the other man with Robin Givens and Mike Tyson. A bit of pattern.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

Mom wanted them to be artistic, she said it many times. Even if they have no talent and it couldn't lead to any kind of a real job other than a nepo one.

Good for them. They don't have to worry about money and enjoy their youth trying different hobbies. Vivienne's hobby already lead her to a Tony winning production.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

Mom wanted them to be artistic, she said it many times. Even if they have no talent and it couldn't lead to any kind of a real job other than a nepo one.

Good for them. They don't have to worry about money and enjoy their youth trying different hobbies. Vivienne's hobby already lead her to a Tony winning production.

Yes through a position she didn't earn on her own merits. Wonderful lesson to teach her.

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Why does Holie keep doing pap strolls with her children at this grocery store? She is also putting out PR about having her friends stay at her house during the wild fires. She seems to be desperately campaigning for an Oscar, but she has been snubbed by her peers for nominations at the major awards.

This says nothing good about you.

She’s a tramp who sleeps with married and engaged men.

And Brad? He cheated on at least one wife (surely Jolie as well), and had a married young girfriend after separating from Jolie.

I have never heard of Brad having an affair outside of Jolie. People were shocked when the story of the affair broke because his behavior seemed so out of character for him. People were not shocked by Jolie engaging in an affair, because she was known as a serial other woman (Billy Bob) and bragged about bedding random men in hotel rooms. But I was shocked by her cruelty, the way she dug the knife into Jennifer with her public comments bragging about being a mistress. I don’t know why she has released all of these victimhood stories about her break up with Brad. Many of us in the public will never like her or see her as a victim due to her notorious behavior and image that she created for herself.

Rumored to have had an affair with Marion Cotillard, confirmed had an affair with Angelina Jolie and confirmed was the other man with Robin Givens and Mike Tyson. A bit of pattern.

Rumors aren’t confirmations. Robin denied many times that she cheated with Pitt during her marriage. Tyson put that in his book, but she denied it. The only confirmed affair is with Jolie.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

Mom wanted them to be artistic, she said it many times. Even if they have no talent and it couldn't lead to any kind of a real job other than a nepo one.

Good for them. They don't have to worry about money and enjoy their youth trying different hobbies. Vivienne's hobby already lead her to a Tony winning production.

Yes through a position she didn't earn on her own merits. Wonderful lesson to teach her.

Parents are supposed to help their kids. If Angelina didn't allow Vivienne to get experience then you would be crying about. She took that experience and moved on to other productions. Good.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

Mom wanted them to be artistic, she said it many times. Even if they have no talent and it couldn't lead to any kind of a real job other than a nepo one.

What do they want? Even artists need educations.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

Forcing them wouldn’t help matters once they’re older. Any reasonable person can understand that. This person needs an excuse herself to complain and might be projecting some of her own issues the way she goes on about it.

They weren't older in 2020. He then choose F1 over seeing them. Stop excusing him.

You’re blaming him for working? Ok. They are older now and can visit him the same way they do Jolie. Stop looking for reasons to complain. You sound unhinged.

DP. Many, many actors pick which projects to work on so that they can be supportive for their kids and openly talk about making those decisions. He’s not a long haul trucker he’s an individual with enough money to not work ever again if he wanted. The point is his relationship with his kids isn’t all on Angelina but a big part is the choices he has made and his own priorities. It’s not even believable that all 6 kids, many of whom don’t live at home anymore, are just brainwashed by her.

Yes and he did that for years, especially when they were younger. I remember him saying in an interview he needed to stay in LA to film after they separated. They’re older now. They can travel and visit like they do for her. Why is that out of the realm of possibility here? Their mother left LA to stay in NYC for several months for the play, and worked in Paris on the Maria film and even now. Why is him filming outside the US for a week or two a few times a year unsupportive? But it isn’t for her. No one said it was all on Angelina. But her encouraging her kids to avoid him and not try to bond with their father is.

She dragged them all over the world ot work. She should have been required to fly them back to see their dad every few weeks. Or, they should have lived with him if he was more stable. She didn't even let them go to school.

She’s a garbage parent. She never put her kids’ interests first. She put her own interests first and her children were only accessories to her. None of her kids, even the adult ones, have managed to build their own lives away from her. She had Maddox as third assistant director on her most recent film. The only jobs her kids have seem to be ones in projects she’s affiliated with.

So Shiloh dancing and her cheer job isn't her interest? Vivienne and theater? Interesting!

They have few options given they have no education.

Mom wanted them to be artistic, she said it many times. Even if they have no talent and it couldn't lead to any kind of a real job other than a nepo one.

Good for them. They don't have to worry about money and enjoy their youth trying different hobbies. Vivienne's hobby already lead her to a Tony winning production.

Yes through a position she didn't earn on her own merits. Wonderful lesson to teach her.

Parents are supposed to help their kids. If Angelina didn't allow Vivienne to get experience then you would be crying about. She took that experience and moved on to other productions. Good.

No, she's not supposed to help an unexperienced kid get a position in a major Broadway show. Can you imagine how many talented and experienced people or kids Vivianne's age are trying to break in on Broadway? Vivianne already has an advantage with her pedigree. She could have started in a bunch of small plays and build her experience from there.
Having a famous dad, not even Angelina started in a major Hollywood movie.