Now That Iran Has Retaliated Against Israel?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

Nobody want war with Iran.

But, telling them "Don't" isn't going to do squat. Biden is clueless and weak. Iran knows that.

The big tell that he’s been clueless and weak is that he hasn’t told Bibi and the Israelis to stop their genocidal crap. Since Biden is their supplier he is totally in a position to stop this crap. Maybe Biden actually means it when he says the Israelis shouldn’t respond to Iran’s attack? Maybe if the Israelis do the stupid thing and attack Iran Biden will be strong and cut off their weapon supplies?

Lol, it's been a minor miracle that WW3 hasn't broken out already. That's thanks to Biden and Blinken who have very quietly been the best administration at foreign policy in almost 40 years.

Wrong yardstick, moron.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

and I'm old enough to never depend on someone like you to defend our country or her allies. Please exit via the nearest border, thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

and I'm old enough to never depend on someone like you to defend our country or her allies. Please exit via the nearest border, thank you.

Why isn’t Israel in NATO? Why do they spy on us? Why do they sell our military secrets to Russia and China? Some pal they are. We were better off befriending the Muslims. More trustworthy

[Anonymous]

Why is Turkey in NATO but not Israel? Israel has zero interest to protect America or European allies so why should we protect them over others? They are just another hostile Middle Eastern bad actor in my eyes

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Anonymous wrote:So, is this gonna go nuclear?

According to Intelligence reports Iran is a week or two away…but how much of that intelligence comes from Israel?

Thought I read recently that Israel had a role in the (false) WMDs during the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

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Anonymous wrote:So, is this gonna go nuclear?

According to Intelligence reports Iran is a week or two away…but how much of that intelligence comes from Israel?

Thought I read recently that Israel had a role in the (false) WMDs during the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

^^ same last PP, https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/04/iraq.israel, and they did

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

Although. . . in 1953 the US , Britain, and western oil companies led a military coup in Iran to establish the Shah as a monarch and out the elected prime minister, and the Shah's failures, his association with the US, and ultimately his admission to the US for medical treatment (something Kissinger basically forced on Carter, who did NOT want him, while the Shah meanwhile was hiding his previous cancer diagnosis from the Mexican doctors) precipitated the attack on the US embassy and taking of hostages.

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Anonymous wrote:Iran was behind October 7th and every other terrorist attck against Israel since . So no, Iran doesn’t have a right to “defend itself” and anyone who argues otherwise is disingenuous. I bet people here were calling for “Ceasefire Now!” And now those same people are arguing that “Iran has the right to defend itself.” So which is it?

Israel has been behind countless terrorist attacks, assassinations of civilians and Iranian government officials, sabotage, etc in Iran. Iran does have a right to defend itself. Israel is rogue state that is responsible for the vast majority of state sponsored terrorism in the region.

Seriously Israel directly attacked Iran- an acted of war. Iran is the responsible state actor while Israel is the bad guy. Anything else is just crazy and runs counter to reality.

Seriously? I can't take you seriously at all. You do realize that Israel is not an outlier when it comes to targeting Iran. Any attack on Iran by Israel is to prevent Iran from attacking Israel. You probably don't know that Iran has been attacking Israel for decades. America has also targeted Iranian generals for assassination. Were you defending Iran when it hit American soldiers in Iraq? Would you defend Iran if it sent ballistic missiles to the United States in retaliation for Soleimani's assassination when Barack Obama was president? Was Iran defending itself when it took American diplomats hostage back in the 70's? How about when it bombed the American embassy in Lebanon and the French/American marine barracks? How about when Iran bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina? How about when Iran bombed the Jewish Community Center in Argentina? Was Iran defending itself on October 7th when it sent Hamas into Israel to slaughter, maim and rape innocent people? Is Iran defending itself when it orders Hezbollah to bomb Israel? Iran is a "responsible state actor?" Israel is the good guy in this scenario and is doing the United States and the rest of the free world a favor, like when it blew up Iraq's nuclear reactors. If you are American, which I really hope you are not, you are truly sick to be defending Iran.

Tell us about America sponsored coup that removed an elected leader in Iran and placed an evil, corrupt shah in his place. Don’t be shy.

Wasn't that in 1953? Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that have to do with the topic of "Now that Iran has retaliated against Israel?"

At least the women got to wear mini skirts and bare heads then if they wanted, and oh yeah, other freedoms and self determination too. The photos of women in pre theocractic Iran, Afghanistan etc. are heartbreaking. As an average Joelle, Id have taken the Shah any day!

There was that thing about how the Shah declared that everyone had to join his party and pay dues to it or else leave the country or go to jail . . . . . but, you know, mini skirts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

Nobody want war with Iran.

But, telling them "Don't" isn't going to do squat. Biden is clueless and weak. Iran knows that.

The big tell that he’s been clueless and weak is that he hasn’t told Bibi and the Israelis to stop their genocidal crap. Since Biden is their supplier he is totally in a position to stop this crap. Maybe Biden actually means it when he says the Israelis shouldn’t respond to Iran’s attack? Maybe if the Israelis do the stupid thing and attack Iran Biden will be strong and cut off their weapon supplies?

Lol, it's been a minor miracle that WW3 hasn't broken out already. That's thanks to Biden and Blinken who have very quietly been the best administration at foreign policy in almost 40 years.

DP
Very hard to tell when WW starts because there are a lot of moving parts.
Historians debate how WW1 started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Warning shot makes sense.
Please spell out the implications. Does it reveal defense systems, allies? Does it say: we’re not simply accepting the April 1st hit?

Also, some military strategist, please help: what is the significance of the countries with closed air spaces? In some cases it seems to give support to one faction or another, and in others it declares no desire to be involved?

Thanks to anyone who can explain this.

Yes. After the Consulate attack Iran had to respond. Similar to what we did when their proxies in Iraq struck our base in Jordan, they telegraphed their moves, symbolically struck a legit target which was the air force base the Consulate strike flew out of, and gave a no escalation signal. We're back to the pre-Consulate strike relations from Iran's perspective.

They learned some things about the limitations of Israeli and allied air defenses and we learned some things about the capability of their missiles.

They used mostly older missiles and it seems like 50% of them failed at launch or along the way. We mostly used older interceptors as well. But unfortunately we lowered our stockpile and we can't produce replacements either fast or cost effective enough.

Iran saved face but is less capable then we assumed. Israel is vulnerable but well defended. It pierced the vail on the invulnerability of Iron Dome.

It's all up to Israel's response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

Nobody want war with Iran.

But, telling them "Don't" isn't going to do squat. Biden is clueless and weak. Iran knows that.

The big tell that he’s been clueless and weak is that he hasn’t told Bibi and the Israelis to stop their genocidal crap. Since Biden is their supplier he is totally in a position to stop this crap. Maybe Biden actually means it when he says the Israelis shouldn’t respond to Iran’s attack? Maybe if the Israelis do the stupid thing and attack Iran Biden will be strong and cut off their weapon supplies?

Lol, it's been a minor miracle that WW3 hasn't broken out already. That's thanks to Biden and Blinken who have very quietly been the best administration at foreign policy in almost 40 years.

DP
Very hard to tell when WW starts because there are a lot of moving parts.
Historians debate how WW1 started.

WW3 does seem like it's in the prologue but a hot war between the heavyweights hasn't broken out yet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Iran was behind October 7th and every other terrorist attck against Israel since . So no, Iran doesn’t have a right to “defend itself” and anyone who argues otherwise is disingenuous. I bet people here were calling for “Ceasefire Now!” And now those same people are arguing that “Iran has the right to defend itself.” So which is it?

Israel has been behind countless terrorist attacks, assassinations of civilians and Iranian government officials, sabotage, etc in Iran. Iran does have a right to defend itself. Israel is rogue state that is responsible for the vast majority of state sponsored terrorism in the region.

Seriously Israel directly attacked Iran- an acted of war. Iran is the responsible state actor while Israel is the bad guy. Anything else is just crazy and runs counter to reality.

Seriously? I can't take you seriously at all. You do realize that Israel is not an outlier when it comes to targeting Iran. Any attack on Iran by Israel is to prevent Iran from attacking Israel. You probably don't know that Iran has been attacking Israel for decades. America has also targeted Iranian generals for assassination. Were you defending Iran when it hit American soldiers in Iraq? Would you defend Iran if it sent ballistic missiles to the United States in retaliation for Soleimani's assassination when Barack Obama was president? Was Iran defending itself when it took American diplomats hostage back in the 70's? How about when it bombed the American embassy in Lebanon and the French/American marine barracks? How about when Iran bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina? How about when Iran bombed the Jewish Community Center in Argentina? Was Iran defending itself on October 7th when it sent Hamas into Israel to slaughter, maim and rape innocent people? Is Iran defending itself when it orders Hezbollah to bomb Israel? Iran is a "responsible state actor?" Israel is the good guy in this scenario and is doing the United States and the rest of the free world a favor, like when it blew up Iraq's nuclear reactors. If you are American, which I really hope you are not, you are truly sick to be defending Iran.

Tell us about America sponsored coup that removed an elected leader in Iran and placed an evil, corrupt shah in his place. Don’t be shy.

Wasn't that in 1953? Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that have to do with the topic of "Now that Iran has retaliated against Israel?"

At least the women got to wear mini skirts and bare heads then if they wanted, and oh yeah, other freedoms and self determination too. The photos of women in pre theocractic Iran, Afghanistan etc. are heartbreaking. As an average Joelle, Id have taken the Shah any day!

There was that thing about how the Shah declared that everyone had to join his party and pay dues to it or else leave the country or go to jail . . . . . but, you know, mini skirts.

Doesn't sound much different. Except for the mini skirts!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran was behind October 7th and every other terrorist attck against Israel since . So no, Iran doesn’t have a right to “defend itself” and anyone who argues otherwise is disingenuous. I bet people here were calling for “Ceasefire Now!” And now those same people are arguing that “Iran has the right to defend itself.” So which is it?

Israel has been behind countless terrorist attacks, assassinations of civilians and Iranian government officials, sabotage, etc in Iran. Iran does have a right to defend itself. Israel is rogue state that is responsible for the vast majority of state sponsored terrorism in the region.

Seriously Israel directly attacked Iran- an acted of war. Iran is the responsible state actor while Israel is the bad guy. Anything else is just crazy and runs counter to reality.

Seriously? I can't take you seriously at all. You do realize that Israel is not an outlier when it comes to targeting Iran. Any attack on Iran by Israel is to prevent Iran from attacking Israel. You probably don't know that Iran has been attacking Israel for decades. America has also targeted Iranian generals for assassination. Were you defending Iran when it hit American soldiers in Iraq? Would you defend Iran if it sent ballistic missiles to the United States in retaliation for Soleimani's assassination when Barack Obama was president? Was Iran defending itself when it took American diplomats hostage back in the 70's? How about when it bombed the American embassy in Lebanon and the French/American marine barracks? How about when Iran bombed the Israeli embassy in Argentina? How about when Iran bombed the Jewish Community Center in Argentina? Was Iran defending itself on October 7th when it sent Hamas into Israel to slaughter, maim and rape innocent people? Is Iran defending itself when it orders Hezbollah to bomb Israel? Iran is a "responsible state actor?" Israel is the good guy in this scenario and is doing the United States and the rest of the free world a favor, like when it blew up Iraq's nuclear reactors. If you are American, which I really hope you are not, you are truly sick to be defending Iran.

Tell us about America sponsored coup that removed an elected leader in Iran and placed an evil, corrupt shah in his place. Don’t be shy.

Wasn't that in 1953? Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that have to do with the topic of "Now that Iran has retaliated against Israel?"

At least the women got to wear mini skirts and bare heads then if they wanted, and oh yeah, other freedoms and self determination too. The photos of women in pre theocractic Iran, Afghanistan etc. are heartbreaking. As an average Joelle, Id have taken the Shah any day!

There was that thing about how the Shah declared that everyone had to join his party and pay dues to it or else leave the country or go to jail . . . . . but, you know, mini skirts.

Given that the people who replaces the Shah imposed a totalitarian theocracy, yes, as a woman, I'd choose mini-skirts with my dues paying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Time to test the b21 on iran

Stop with this stupid flexing, Iran has plenty of support from Russia and China, you don’t want the situation to escalate.

Plenty of support? Russia couldn't even help their CSTO ally Armenia out. Russia is greatly overextended. And China is too smart to go to war over Iran.

China is sitting on its perch sipping tea and watching an overextended US bleeding money, power and influence over fringe protectorates.

This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a joke.