Now That Iran Has Retaliated Against Israel?

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Anonymous wrote:Iran hasn't attacked any US facilities or forces, so the US will not participate in any counter-attack against Iran should Israel choose to pursue that course. That seems prudent to me. Not sure Trump would be so restrained though.

Iran hasn't attacked the US facilities or forces.
But, they have made sure their proxies have.
You are clueless if you think Iran has no hand in the attacks we have suffered.

Three U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday in Jordan, while more than 40 other service members were injured following an uncrewed aerial system attack at a military base near the Syrian border. Those service members were in Jordan to support Operation Inherent Resolve, which is the U.S. and coalition mission to ensure the defeat of ISIS.

"In terms of attribution for the attack, we know this is an [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps ]-backed militia," she said. "It has the footprints of Kataib Hezbollah. But not making a final assessment on that, our teams here are continuing to do the analysis. We know that Iran is behind it. And certainly as we've said before ... Iran continues to arm and equip these groups to launch these attacks, and we will certainly hold them responsible."

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3659809/3-us-service-members-killed-others-injured-in-jordan-following-drone-attack/

Immediately PP makes it clear that anti-Iranian discourse echoes antisemitic discourse in that it not just points to a people’s atavistic problems, but also imagines the totality of evil coming from a single malign group. And as with antisemitism, the purpose of anti-Iranianism is to distract from the misdirection of a society’s own leaders. Sad!

The IRGC has been designated as a terrorist regime. And, not just in the US.
Rightly so.

This. OMG. The people of Iran themselves do not support their government-90% of them last I read. These arguments are hilarious. Anti-iranianism???? Iranians and Israeli's minus the government of Iran share a huge bond and there is tremendous support for Israel among many Iranians. In fact, some in Iran are risking their lives to leave messages of support. Iranians in the UK and Canada are getting arrested for going to these anti-Israel marches and holding up signs that say "Hamas is a terrorist organization." There are Israeli flags permanently drawn on the ground in places in Iran to force people to show disdain by walking on the flag and Iranian people go out of their away to avoid stepping on the Israeli flag. Are you seriously confusing a people with their government?

And all that stops the minute the Us or Israel invades Iran and kills their families. It’s very easy to change people from secular to right wing with a war

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Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

Yes, but the Iranian regime is not remotely reflective of the Iranian people. It would behoove the US to not do anything to change the sentiment of everyday Iranians. Fortunately, the rocket attack on Israel was merely a face-saving gesture and didn't change anything. Iran definitely does not want a regional war. Nor do the Iranian people.

It's Sinwar and Netanyahu and their followers that want to blow up the region. As long as that conflict stays between Palestinians and Israelis, the rest of the world will march on. No one really cares about that sh#tshow. It's only been going on for 75 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

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Anonymous wrote:We had better not get dragged into the middle of this!! Israel struck their Embassy in Damascus, so of course they would respond.

I am SICK of my tax dollars being used to clean up Israel’s disastrous missteps.

+10000

Iran has a right to defend itself.

Keep the USA out of it

Seems the pro-Iran trolls are full mask off now.

Seriously. I am completely astonished that this poster doesn’t understand that Iran is coming for her/him if they are American. The U.S. has been in it for decades. People have very short memories (or are completely ignorant). Let’s recall some actions Iran has taken against the U.S. and Israel. In the 70’s, the Iranian regime invaded the American embassy in Iran and took the diplomats inside hostage. That was under Jimmy Carter. In the 80’s, Iran bombed the American embassy in Lebanon (63 murdered there) and blew up an American marine barracks murdering many Americans. Let’s not forget the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires in the 90’s as well has the bombing of the Jewish Community Center.

The poster doesn’t remember when America assasinated the Iranian general Soleimani in Baghdad when Obama was president.

I can only draw one conclusion for the poster’s motivation— the fact that Israel is a Jewish country. That is the ONLY reason this poster cares about this. Jews are involved.

No, we recognize that both Iran and Israel are sh**hole countries that have no regard for human rights and are war agitators. We also realize that in this little skirmish, that Israel was the aggressor. Is Iran not allowed to defend itself as Israel did against Hamas?

I repeat. If Jews were not involved you wouldn’t give a sh**!

So Iran is not allowed to defend itself? Is that your answer?

Not the person you are responding to, but this made me burst out laughing. Why do you think countries that don't even like Israel helped defend Israel last night? They despise Iran and they know how dangerous it is to let Iran get more powerful. It's like the ceasefire crowd who don't seem to understood ceasefires are broken by Hamas, and they haven't agreed to many ceasefires. There are 2 types of dangerous camps among the US=those indoctrinated to hate Jews and Israel since birth who haven't questioned it and the pseudo-progressives who were too easily brainwashed and they know almost nothing about the Middle East except what they read in articles by journalists, too many of whom are turning out to have ties to Hamas.

So no, Iran is not allowed to defend itself?

How is sending missiles towards Al-Aqsa Mosque 'defending itself'?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

Nobody want war with Iran.

But, telling them "Don't" isn't going to do squat. Biden is clueless and weak. Iran knows that.

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Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

You're kidding right? Just last night Israel intercepted and destroyed 300 drones and missiles launched by Iraq. Do you know what just one US aircraft carrier would do to Iraq's defenses? Gimme a break. (The only question would be how much the US chooses to limit the damage for one reason or another).

You are kidding right? It took Israel $1.5billion dollars, all of its air fleet, US, UK, French, German, Jordanian air fleets. US, UK, French navy support and air defense systems to down 400 cheap drones and 150 old tech missiles. Iran made direct hits to the top 3 Israeli military assets and mapped out Israel’s air defense system and it’s defense tactics. Israel is on a suicide mission.

So 3 drones or missiles got through? That's like 1/3 of one percent. As defender, I'd be happy with those results all day long.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

Nobody want war with Iran.

But, telling them "Don't" isn't going to do squat. Biden is clueless and weak. Iran knows that.

The big tell that he’s been clueless and weak is that he hasn’t told Bibi and the Israelis to stop their genocidal crap. Since Biden is their supplier he is totally in a position to stop this crap. Maybe Biden actually means it when he says the Israelis shouldn’t respond to Iran’s attack? Maybe if the Israelis do the stupid thing and attack Iran Biden will be strong and cut off their weapon supplies?

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I hope no one here is stupid enough to put stock in these ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

You're kidding right? Just last night Israel intercepted and destroyed 300 drones and missiles launched by Iraq. Do you know what just one US aircraft carrier would do to Iraq's defenses? Gimme a break. (The only question would be how much the US chooses to limit the damage for one reason or another).

You are kidding right? It took Israel $1.5billion dollars, all of its air fleet, US, UK, French, German, Jordanian air fleets. US, UK, French navy support and air defense systems to down 400 cheap drones and 150 old tech missiles. Iran made direct hits to the top 3 Israeli military assets and mapped out Israel’s air defense system and it’s defense tactics. Israel is on a suicide mission.

So 3 drones or missiles got through? That's like 1/3 of one percent. As defender, I'd be happy with those results all day long.

NP. 3 bases, not three drones/missiles. There are multiple different videos of clear strikes of multiple missiles hitting each of the bases. It’s pretty clear those are the main intended targets and they got the best weapons. Iran learned a lot about Israeli defenses. Iran also gave advanced warning and didn’t use their best weapons.

Shorter: now is *not* the time to become an Iron Dome salesperson!

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Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

You're kidding right? Just last night Israel intercepted and destroyed 300 drones and missiles launched by Iraq. Do you know what just one US aircraft carrier would do to Iraq's defenses? Gimme a break. (The only question would be how much the US chooses to limit the damage for one reason or another).

You are kidding right? It took Israel $1.5billion dollars, all of its air fleet, US, UK, French, German, Jordanian air fleets. US, UK, French navy support and air defense systems to down 400 cheap drones and 150 old tech missiles. Iran made direct hits to the top 3 Israeli military assets and mapped out Israel’s air defense system and it’s defense tactics. Israel is on a suicide mission.

So 3 drones or missiles got through? That's like 1/3 of one percent. As defender, I'd be happy with those results all day long.

All were cheap decoys to draw out the air defense system. Iran only used a dozed mid-range ballistic missiles and almost all hit their intended target.

This was a military game for Iran. They tested out an amply warned and fully mobilized Israeli and ally defense, and broke through to high value military assets with ease. They didn’t even try their high tech missiles.

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Anonymous wrote:WWlll has entered a new stage. US, UK and other select allies are now openly engaged in active combat.

We desperately need an FDR or Lincoln to step up. Knowing that there is a 95% chance it will be Trump or Biden "leading" an effort to defend our country and our country's global interests until 2029 is very, very unsettling.

? A war with Iran wouldn't even be a "war." They'd be obliterated. They know that. Why are you concerned, do you think Russian and/or China is going to come in on Iran's side?

Oh no Iran is a real country with a large population in a mountainous area with many large urban area surrounded by countries the US has little to no working relationship with. Israel is a tiny country with very limited military geared to killing civilians and occupying territory and no allies.

The US is extremely vulnerable to state sponsored attacks and Israel had trouble responding to a very limited attack shooting down slow moving missiles over other countries territories. Iran has a lot more they can throw at Israel including ballistic missiles that are impossible to shoot down. Those travel at 15,000 mph, have multiple reentry warheads, 750-1500 kilogram payloads and are accuracy within 500 meters. So instead of 9 hours it would be about 6-10 minutes.

You're kidding right? Just last night Israel intercepted and destroyed 300 drones and missiles launched by Iraq. Do you know what just one US aircraft carrier would do to Iraq's defenses? Gimme a break. (The only question would be how much the US chooses to limit the damage for one reason or another).

You are kidding right? It took Israel $1.5billion dollars, all of its air fleet, US, UK, French, German, Jordanian air fleets. US, UK, French navy support and air defense systems to down 400 cheap drones and 150 old tech missiles. Iran made direct hits to the top 3 Israeli military assets and mapped out Israel’s air defense system and it’s defense tactics. Israel is on a suicide mission.

I have to take most of that with a grain of salt. Russia was paying $400,000 a pop for those "cheap" Shahed drones and Iran made a point of swaggering about their new missiles, as opposed to "old tech" and there is nothing to support the claims of "$1.5 billion" or "it took ALL OF" nor that there was even any significant impact to Israel's military capabilities in the aftermath.

Iran telegraphed the attack allowing Israel to prepare and only used a fraction of their stock. Israel could have use ballistic missiles, fired 800 missiles a day for a few days, coordinated with hezbollah, etc. Their defense would have shattered after a few days. Do not kid yourself. This was just a warning shot.

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Warning shot makes sense.
Please spell out the implications. Does it reveal defense systems, allies? Does it say: we’re not simply accepting the April 1st hit?

Also, some military strategist, please help: what is the significance of the countries with closed air spaces? In some cases it seems to give support to one faction or another, and in others it declares no desire to be involved?

Thanks to anyone who can explain this.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of you are too young to remember the Iranian hostage crisis from 1979-81.
For 444 days, they held 53 American citizens and diplomats hostage.

Iran has been a terrorist state for a long time. They haven't changed. Only become more terroristic.

I’m old enough to know that those of you stirring up war with Iran are not to be trusted.

Nobody want war with Iran.

But, telling them "Don't" isn't going to do squat. Biden is clueless and weak. Iran knows that.

The big tell that he’s been clueless and weak is that he hasn’t told Bibi and the Israelis to stop their genocidal crap. Since Biden is their supplier he is totally in a position to stop this crap. Maybe Biden actually means it when he says the Israelis shouldn’t respond to Iran’s attack? Maybe if the Israelis do the stupid thing and attack Iran Biden will be strong and cut off their weapon supplies?

Lol, it's been a minor miracle that WW3 hasn't broken out already. That's thanks to Biden and Blinken who have very quietly been the best administration at foreign policy in almost 40 years.