If you are someone who "warns" people of the dangers of COVID on social media

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

Of course pandemics are not "fair", nobody said they were. PEOPLE can be fair in how they judge people and what they put out into the world. You say you don't post about this, but you just did. You say you're not here to demonize anyone, but clearly you feel people shouldn't be going to any indoor public places unmasked right now, even if they are feeling well.

Sorry, but I have good reasons not to keep my child socially isolated on the weekends (she cannot wear a mask effectively and hates the cold). She has already paid a high enough price (a price which people like you NEVER acknowledge). That is not going to change. What I do think is reasonable is for people to stay home if they are sick and to be conservative about that. But when I see posts like yours, a part of me is like, f*ck it, clearly that's not enough so why try anyway?

Don't need an imagination to get there from here.

Oh. You're one of those people that thinks the impacts of social isolation are not real.

Actually I think your daughter has probably had quite a hard time. But you are also behaving like a martyr in this thread. They're not mutually exclusive.

I also think long covid is real though and not a made up disease, so *shrug*

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Anonymous wrote:Also love the way the non-mask side has posted throughout this thread about how their potential to drop the mild safeguards they currently practice (almost begrudgingly!) such as staying home when they're sick (!), is the fault of the people who are more careful than they are.

Stop blaming other people for dropping your safeguards. You are the ones making those choices. Own it. Stop comparing yourselves to people making different choices than you.

Just being honest. I am not the only person that rolls their eyes when people post moralistic exhortations to mask forever, not do any indoor activities. But feel free to keep posting. You do you.

That's a child's reason for making a choice. You're a child.

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Anonymous wrote:Also love the way the non-mask side has posted throughout this thread about how their potential to drop the mild safeguards they currently practice (almost begrudgingly!) such as staying home when they're sick (!), is the fault of the people who are more careful than they are.

Stop blaming other people for dropping your safeguards. You are the ones making those choices. Own it. Stop comparing yourselves to people making different choices than you.

Just being honest. I am not the only person that rolls their eyes when people post moralistic exhortations to mask forever, not do any indoor activities. But feel free to keep posting. You do you.

That's a child's reason for making a choice. You're a child.

Which specific choice did I make? Please use a direct quote.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

Of course pandemics are not "fair", nobody said they were. PEOPLE can be fair in how they judge people and what they put out into the world. You say you don't post about this, but you just did. You say you're not here to demonize anyone, but clearly you feel people shouldn't be going to any indoor public places unmasked right now, even if they are feeling well.

Sorry, but I have good reasons not to keep my child socially isolated on the weekends (she cannot wear a mask effectively and hates the cold). She has already paid a high enough price (a price which people like you NEVER acknowledge). That is not going to change. What I do think is reasonable is for people to stay home if they are sick and to be conservative about that. But when I see posts like yours, a part of me is like, f*ck it, clearly that's not enough so why try anyway?

Don't need an imagination to get there from here.

Oh. You're one of those people that thinks the impacts of social isolation are not real.

Actually I think your daughter has probably had quite a hard time. But you are also behaving like a martyr in this thread. They're not mutually exclusive.

I also think long covid is real though and not a made up disease, so *shrug*

I also think long COVID is real. Sorry you think I'm a martyr. You yourself don't sound very compassionate. My daughter's issues are very real and extremely painful. I would not wish them on any child.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

Of course pandemics are not "fair", nobody said they were. PEOPLE can be fair in how they judge people and what they put out into the world. You say you don't post about this, but you just did. You say you're not here to demonize anyone, but clearly you feel people shouldn't be going to any indoor public places unmasked right now, even if they are feeling well.

Sorry, but I have good reasons not to keep my child socially isolated on the weekends (she cannot wear a mask effectively and hates the cold). She has already paid a high enough price (a price which people like you NEVER acknowledge). That is not going to change. What I do think is reasonable is for people to stay home if they are sick and to be conservative about that. But when I see posts like yours, a part of me is like, f*ck it, clearly that's not enough so why try anyway?

Don't need an imagination to get there from here.

Oh. You're one of those people that thinks the impacts of social isolation are not real.

Actually I think your daughter has probably had quite a hard time. But you are also behaving like a martyr in this thread. They're not mutually exclusive.

I also think long covid is real though and not a made up disease, so *shrug*

I also think long COVID is real. Sorry you think I'm a martyr. You yourself don't sound very compassionate. My daughter's issues are very real and extremely painful. I would not wish them on any child.

You've judged and namecalled my side throughout this thread without justification (P.O.S. psychopath etc etc) so while I'm sure you are having a hard time, and while I'm sorry for the stuff your daughter is experiencing, I don't think you're justified in taking it out on random people on DCUM, or in blaming other people for your own actions. But go off.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

Of course pandemics are not "fair", nobody said they were. PEOPLE can be fair in how they judge people and what they put out into the world. You say you don't post about this, but you just did. You say you're not here to demonize anyone, but clearly you feel people shouldn't be going to any indoor public places unmasked right now, even if they are feeling well.

Sorry, but I have good reasons not to keep my child socially isolated on the weekends (she cannot wear a mask effectively and hates the cold). She has already paid a high enough price (a price which people like you NEVER acknowledge). That is not going to change. What I do think is reasonable is for people to stay home if they are sick and to be conservative about that. But when I see posts like yours, a part of me is like, f*ck it, clearly that's not enough so why try anyway?

Don't need an imagination to get there from here.

Oh. You're one of those people that thinks the impacts of social isolation are not real.

Actually I think your daughter has probably had quite a hard time. But you are also behaving like a martyr in this thread. They're not mutually exclusive.

I also think long covid is real though and not a made up disease, so *shrug*

I also think long COVID is real. Sorry you think I'm a martyr. You yourself don't sound very compassionate. My daughter's issues are very real and extremely painful. I would not wish them on any child.

You've judged and namecalled my side throughout this thread without justification (P.O.S. psychopath etc etc) so while I'm sure you are having a hard time, and while I'm sorry for the stuff your daughter is experiencing, I don't think you're justified in taking it out on random people on DCUM, or in blaming other people for your own actions. But go off.

Wow, if you associate yourself with the specific behaviors which those words were used to describe then they are perfectly accurate. Not everyone is a good person and you don't sound like one.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

*create strawman by accusing others of engaging in behavior that no one is engaging in*
*Call those people horrible names*
*Get mad when someone calls you out on namecalling behavior and recreate strawman by saying they must have engaged in that mythical behavior*
4. Profit!

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder whether people who don't mask in crowded indoor areas expect is going to happen to them, exactly?

If you catch covid 1-2x per year from this, and your chance of getting long covid is 15% each time, you're rolling the dice each time and you've got less than 7 years before the jig is up and you get long covid. Less time if you're including others in your family. Barring some major scientific development.

- Do you not believe in long covid and think it is a magical white lady disease? (I saw that earlier in this thread. Good luck with that.)
-- Is it just about hating masks no matter what the cost to your personal health?
- will you not take precautions like masking and not eating indoors again EVER or will you start again if more people around you are being careful again
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- if someone in your family gets long covid and suffers from constant fatigue and brain fog that doesn't resolve, will you change your mind about what precautions your family might have taken to prevent the exposure or at least reduce the dosage inhaled? Or will you still be happy with the choices you made now?

I'm pretty sure you will say you are happy with your choices because no one can plan for the unexpected. (It's not that unexpected! but whatever you do you)

What? Where on earth are you getting that you have a 15% chance of getting “Long Covid?” That’s crazy. I’ve never heard the estimate to be that high, even 5% seems high with the current strains, never mind 15%. Keep in mind we have lots of “Coronaviruses” circulating, of which Covid-19 is the “novel” Coronavirus, but it’s still just a Coronavirus which causes cold and flu like symptoms. Even if one does have post-viral complications/symptoms, in the majority of people these are resolved within 6 months.

So you’re giving up precious years of your life for something that has a 5% or less chance of happening and if it does, is resolved within 6 months at most. That doesn’t seem like a way to live, to me. Studies have shown that more liberal Democrats tend to OVERstate the risks of Covid to them and the risks of dying or becoming permanently disabled by Covid. Maybe that happened to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*create strawman by accusing others of engaging in behavior that no one is engaging in*
*Call those people horrible names*
*Get mad when someone calls you out on namecalling behavior and recreate strawman by saying they must have engaged in that mythical behavior*
4. Profit!

I mean if you didn't do those things, then why are you so offended? The words weren't used to describe you. They were used to describe real behavior I've observed.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

1. Yes. Get your boosters.

2. Yes, wear a mask indoors in any setting that you know you will be encountering random people. It would be really nice of others to wear them in non-optional settings, like grocery stores, hospitals, doctors offices, and pharmacies, you know, where people with health issues have to go too. The masks are as much for your protection as to protect others. Not "indefinitely" only when cases are up, or during winter. In health care settings, yes, indefinitely.

3. Yes, avoid any "optional" indoor social activities, if you plan to be around older people or people with health issues. Otherwise, knock yourself out catching whatever is out there.

4. No, most kids are in daycare because they have to be.

So any child with elderly grandparents should avoid all "optional" indoor activities in the winter? That means weekends spent in windy cold weather or at home. I don't think you realize how extreme that is for families with young children. My parents who are very COVID cautious would never ask that of us.

Most people who live here (DC metro) are transplants who have parents and grandparents who live elsewhere, so yes...a week or so before visiting the grandparents, it would be advisable to stop all indoor maskless optional activities. They usually don't see their grandparents "all winter."

If the grandparents are local, then it's up to all of you to figure out how to handle the risk involved. Some grandparents don't care, so that's up to them. You do you.

My parents would look at me like I was crazy if I told them we were forcing our kids to give up activities to "protect" them. Of course, they were aghast at what people in this area made kids go through during the pandemic.

Yeah, my elderly relatives who are still alive are partying it up. They are not spending the last few years of their lives cooped up avoiding a virus. My step-grandmother is in her 80s and beat covid twice, goes out dancing regularly, just got remarried, and no there were no masks at the wedding!

I'm convinced that for many of the people going on about "protecting grandparents" it's more about martyrdom.

Wait I thought the martyrs in this thread were the people picking up the pieces of their childrens' lives destabilized by covid and trying to move forward, bravely, without masks, and despite the perceived scornful looks of the masked oracles warning of latent health effects? I must be getting confused...

Btw, this person is a P O S.

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If anyone talked like that about long COVID y'all would flip TF out

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder whether people who don't mask in crowded indoor areas expect is going to happen to them, exactly?

If you catch covid 1-2x per year from this, and your chance of getting long covid is 15% each time, you're rolling the dice each time and you've got less than 7 years before the jig is up and you get long covid. Less time if you're including others in your family. Barring some major scientific development.

- Do you not believe in long covid and think it is a magical white lady disease? (I saw that earlier in this thread. Good luck with that.)
-- Is it just about hating masks no matter what the cost to your personal health?
- will you not take precautions like masking and not eating indoors again EVER or will you start again if more people around you are being careful again
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- if someone in your family gets long covid and suffers from constant fatigue and brain fog that doesn't resolve, will you change your mind about what precautions your family might have taken to prevent the exposure or at least reduce the dosage inhaled? Or will you still be happy with the choices you made now?

I'm pretty sure you will say you are happy with your choices because no one can plan for the unexpected. (It's not that unexpected! but whatever you do you)

What? Where on earth are you getting that you have a 15% chance of getting “Long Covid?” That’s crazy. I’ve never heard the estimate to be that high, even 5% seems high with the current strains, never mind 15%. Keep in mind we have lots of “Coronaviruses” circulating, of which Covid-19 is the “novel” Coronavirus, but it’s still just a Coronavirus which causes cold and flu like symptoms. Even if one does have post-viral complications/symptoms, in the majority of people these are resolved within 6 months.

So you’re giving up precious years of your life for something that has a 5% or less chance of happening and if it does, is resolved within 6 months at most. That doesn’t seem like a way to live, to me. Studies have shown that more liberal Democrats tend to OVERstate the risks of Covid to them and the risks of dying or becoming permanently disabled by Covid. Maybe that happened to you?

NP. My rheumatologist said he thinks probably around thirteen percent of people have a genetic predisposition towards developing long COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder whether people who don't mask in crowded indoor areas expect is going to happen to them, exactly?

If you catch covid 1-2x per year from this, and your chance of getting long covid is 15% each time, you're rolling the dice each time and you've got less than 7 years before the jig is up and you get long covid. Less time if you're including others in your family. Barring some major scientific development.

- Do you not believe in long covid and think it is a magical white lady disease? (I saw that earlier in this thread. Good luck with that.)
-- Is it just about hating masks no matter what the cost to your personal health?
- will you not take precautions like masking and not eating indoors again EVER or will you start again if more people around you are being careful again
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- if someone in your family gets long covid and suffers from constant fatigue and brain fog that doesn't resolve, will you change your mind about what precautions your family might have taken to prevent the exposure or at least reduce the dosage inhaled? Or will you still be happy with the choices you made now?

I'm pretty sure you will say you are happy with your choices because no one can plan for the unexpected. (It's not that unexpected! but whatever you do you)

I'll bite. I don't mask and haven't in well over a year. I attend large indoor events (NFL games, concerts, etc). I have never had covid nor have 4/5 people in my family.

-I do believe long covid is real but EXTREMELY rare. I know 1 person that has it.
-Yes I hate masks. There is no cost to my personal health-see never had covid
-Nope. Not masking indoors again unless absolutely required. Will still eat indoors.
-Nope.
-Nope. Again long covid is extremely rare and since we've not had covid yet our chances for long covid are even smaller.

Go ahead yell at me and call me names. Just saying what we're doing. We're not in the DC area-I haven't seen a mask outside of a doctor's office in close to a year.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

Of course pandemics are not "fair", nobody said they were. PEOPLE can be fair in how they judge people and what they put out into the world. You say you don't post about this, but you just did. You say you're not here to demonize anyone, but clearly you feel people shouldn't be going to any indoor public places unmasked right now, even if they are feeling well.

Sorry, but I have good reasons not to keep my child socially isolated on the weekends (she cannot wear a mask effectively and hates the cold). She has already paid a high enough price (a price which people like you NEVER acknowledge). That is not going to change. What I do think is reasonable is for people to stay home if they are sick and to be conservative about that. But when I see posts like yours, a part of me is like, f*ck it, clearly that's not enough so why try anyway?

Don't need an imagination to get there from here.

Oh. You're one of those people that thinks the impacts of social isolation are not real.

Actually I think your daughter has probably had quite a hard time. But you are also behaving like a martyr in this thread. They're not mutually exclusive.

I also think long covid is real though and not a made up disease, so *shrug*

I also think long COVID is real. Sorry you think I'm a martyr. You yourself don't sound very compassionate. My daughter's issues are very real and extremely painful. I would not wish them on any child.

You've judged and namecalled my side throughout this thread without justification (P.O.S. psychopath etc etc) so while I'm sure you are having a hard time, and while I'm sorry for the stuff your daughter is experiencing, I don't think you're justified in taking it out on random people on DCUM, or in blaming other people for your own actions. But go off.

This. I feel bad for her kid, but her posts are nasty and overwrought.

People say this on here all the time flippantly, but I mean it sincerely. Talk to a therapist PP with kid with issues. You sound like you are taking out your poop on random internet strangers. Not healthy.

And BTW, everyone's kids suffered during the pandemic. If you think we were getting through a worldwide pandemic unscathed, I don't know what to tell you.