Banneker versus School Without Walls

[Anonymous]

The 80 or students that graduated last year had $50 million in aid, I think they’re doing fine.


What's the college retention rate for the 80 who graduated last year?

What's the 4/5 year college graduation rate for the 2013-2016 Banneker grads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 80 or students that graduated last year had $50 million in aid, I think they’re doing fine.


What's the college retention rate for the 80 who graduated last year?

What's the 4/5 year college graduation rate for the 2013-2016 Banneker grads

You just want to see failure, don’t you? All the Banneker graduates I know have done well in college. The transition from HS to college is easy. I don’t understand why you don’t think these kids can succeed. Oh wait… because you don’t know any.

[Anonymous]

The type of colleges most Banneker grads attend aren't difficult to graduate from. American colleges need to rake in student loan dollars to stay afloat financially. Even elite colleges seldom flunk out marginal students - they need their tuition, fees and lodging dollars to keep on ticking.

I went to college and med school with a host of iffy minority students. They were given a break by professors for many years, until they hit a wall in failing their state medical school board exams. In my med school class of 150, I was one of a handful of minority student who passed. More than two-thirds of my minority classmates failed on the first go around, and half failed on the second and never became physicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The type of colleges most Banneker grads attend aren't difficult to graduate from. American colleges need to rake in student loan dollars to stay afloat financially. Even elite colleges seldom flunk out marginal students - they need their tuition, fees and lodging dollars to keep on ticking.

I went to college and med school with a host of iffy minority students. They were given a break by professors for many years, until they hit a wall in failing their state medical school board exams. In my med school class of 150, I was one of a handful of minority student who passed. More than two-thirds of my minority classmates failed on the first go around, and half failed on the second and never became physicians.

How is any of this relevant?

[Anonymous]

Wonder if this thread will reach 100 pages...Umm...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The type of colleges most Banneker grads attend aren't difficult to graduate from. American colleges need to rake in student loan dollars to stay afloat financially. Even elite colleges seldom flunk out marginal students - they need their tuition, fees and lodging dollars to keep on ticking.

I went to college and med school with a host of iffy minority students. They were given a break by professors for many years, until they hit a wall in failing their state medical school board exams. In my med school class of 150, I was one of a handful of minority student who passed. More than two-thirds of my minority classmates failed on the first go around, and half failed on the second and never became physicians.

How is any of this relevant?

My take is Bannker's mediocre college prep often leading to lackluster college performance, often leading to insurmountable hurdles to entry to professions...though the path sounds peachy on paper.

It's an old story for low SES AA students in this city and country. They do better at Walls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 80 or students that graduated last year had $50 million in aid, I think they’re doing fine.


What's the college retention rate for the 80 who graduated last year?

What's the 4/5 year college graduation rate for the 2013-2016 Banneker grads

This is only the first semester for last year's graduates so there is no way to derive at a retention rate. But I'm sure you know that

I'm sure their website has info for 2013. Let us know the info for other schools in the DMV also since it's so easy to find.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The type of colleges most Banneker grads attend aren't difficult to graduate from. American colleges need to rake in student loan dollars to stay afloat financially. Even elite colleges seldom flunk out marginal students - they need their tuition, fees and lodging dollars to keep on ticking.

I went to college and med school with a host of iffy minority students. They were given a break by professors for many years, until they hit a wall in failing their state medical school board exams. In my med school class of 150, I was one of a handful of minority student who passed. More than two-thirds of my minority classmates failed on the first go around, and half failed on the second and never became physicians.

How is any of this relevant?

My take is Bannker's mediocre college prep often leading to lackluster college performance, often leading to insurmountable hurdles to entry to professions...though the path sounds peachy on paper.

It's an old story for low SES AA students in this city and country. They do better at Walls.

How did Walls and Banneker compare when Walls was primarily AA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The type of colleges most Banneker grads attend aren't difficult to graduate from. American colleges need to rake in student loan dollars to stay afloat financially. Even elite colleges seldom flunk out marginal students - they need their tuition, fees and lodging dollars to keep on ticking.

I went to college and med school with a host of iffy minority students. They were given a break by professors for many years, until they hit a wall in failing their state medical school board exams. In my med school class of 150, I was one of a handful of minority student who passed. More than two-thirds of my minority classmates failed on the first go around, and half failed on the second and never became physicians.

How is any of this relevant?

My take is Bannker's mediocre college prep often leading to lackluster college performance, often leading to insurmountable hurdles to entry to professions...though the path sounds peachy on paper.

It's an old story for low SES AA students in this city and country. They do better at Walls.

How did Walls and Banneker compare when Walls was primarily AA?

PP would rather work on bad assumptions.

[Anonymous]

It’s starting to feel like MLK Jr failed us “black people” when he begged white people to integrate. We would have been much better with our own schools, own doctors etc. This thread is proof of that.

[Anonymous]

Maybe, but we'll never know and it will never happen. Seems pointless to speculate. I don't segregation much, whatever motivates it.

[Anonymous]

I think the burden is on those positing that Banneker grads are flunking out of college. I’d like to see higher performance from them on principle, but they are likely graduating from the schools they are admitted to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 80 or students that graduated last year had $50 million in aid, I think they’re doing fine.


What's the college retention rate for the 80 who graduated last year?

What's the 4/5 year college graduation rate for the 2013-2016 Banneker grads

To me it is a great school no question (attended open house). The test scores reflect parent income probably. But how can there be 50 million dollars in aid for 80 students? That's $600,000 dollars per student no? Is that really true? -OP

[Anonymous]

No, the test scores reflect inadequate college prep for some of the city's brightest students all the way from K-12. Look at SAT scores at NYC magnet programs for at-risk students, e.g. Bronx Science and Bronx Tech, if you doubt this. The average scores for AA and Latino students at those school are at least 200 points higher for both reading and math. The brightest poor minority kids can actually score high on standardized tests with the right prep and peer groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 80 or students that graduated last year had $50 million in aid, I think they’re doing fine.


What's the college retention rate for the 80 who graduated last year?

What's the 4/5 year college graduation rate for the 2013-2016 Banneker grads

To me it is a great school no question (attended open house). The test scores reflect parent income probably. But how can there be 50 million dollars in aid for 80 students? That's $600,000 dollars per student no? Is that really true? -OP

Again, it was total awards. One student could have different awards to different schools.