Roe v Wade struck down

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I dare Trump supporters to listen to this horrifying testimony from a South Carolina pediatric and adolescent gynecologist who ultimately left because it was too hard to deal with the anti-abortion laws.

One of the cases she talks about involved a 13 year old child rape victim who is forced to get a transvaginal probe to see if there is a heartbeat, because of SC's laws.

It is heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking. G'd d all you anti-abortion freaks who have enabled this. This is so infuriating. Never mind that she should have been given medication immediately when she was brought to the ER. But that's not happening in this post-Dobbs world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/opinion/kristl-tomlin-dobbs-children.html

This kid came in, and she was a 13-year-old kid. And she had been walking down the street, and this guy pulled up in the car. And he said, hey, you want to get in the car? I’ll buy you some food. And she went, OK. And she got in his car, and he took her to his apartment, where he locked her in, and he raped her in every available orifice.

And then the neighbors heard her screaming, and they called the police. And the police battered down the door and caught this guy in the act, arrested him, thankfully, and took her to the emergency room. And then, as part of her follow-up, she had a positive pregnancy test a couple of weeks later.

And when she came to my office, she’d had an ultrasound because this is part of this law, right? There’s a huge emphasis on ultrasound. There has to be, because this emphasis is on fetal heart rate, right? And you can only assess that through ultrasound, except through ultrasound, at small gestational ages like that, you typically need to do a transvaginal ultrasound.

So if you’ve never had that before, that is a probe that is stuck up your vagina and moved around until we can get the images that we need. So not amazing at the best of times, but definitely not amazing when you’re a child who’s just been abducted and raped. And the kid had an ultrasound, and there was no heart rate yet.

...And the mom was like, I don’t believe in abortion. I believe in adoption.


But then, a few weeks after that first appointment, the girl came back with her mom and wanted to get an abortion. And remember, the clock is ticking.

I had everything ready to go. I called the lawyers, and the lawyers went, mm, I don’t think so. ... we need to know whether or not there’s a heartbeat. I was like, but we don’t, right? Oh, and then she said, not only does she need an ultrasound, you need to wait 24 hours before you can give her medicine.

And it’s interesting because the advice you got was not necessarily following the letter of the law. But what the law does is create this culture of anxiety around what is supposed to be done at this very critical moment.

I think this is part of where the problem is. These laws are so ambiguous. This isn’t necessarily a criticism of the lawyers who are helping me. They were being hugely conservative in their advice to me. They were trying to help me.

But the issue is, what a lawyer interprets as conservative and what I then have to live on the ground when I’m telling this to a family, it’s they’re just different things.

So I had to go back into this room and tell this family. And I took the kid and her mom to the ultrasound suite. And it was, without a doubt, one of the worst experiences of my life because this kid just sobbed through the whole thing. And her mom sobbed through the whole thing, and my nurse sobbed through the whole thing. And of course, now, it’s been three weeks, and now there is a heartbeat.

And I have to say all this junk — I’m obligated to inform you that there is a heartbeat. And this kid just can’t even get words out. And she’s just shaking her head. I’m obligated to let you know that you may have pictures of this. Would you like your picture? ...none of that was necessary.

Dr. Tomlin asked them to come back the next day, following the lawyer’s advice. They did, and she gave the patient abortion medication.

And so, we did it. Great. Now I have to call the sheriff.

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Anonymous wrote:I dare Trump supporters to listen to this horrifying testimony from a South Carolina pediatric and adolescent gynecologist who ultimately left because it was too hard to deal with the anti-abortion laws.

One of the cases she talks about involved a 13 year old child rape victim who is forced to get a transvaginal probe to see if there is a heartbeat, because of SC's laws.

It is heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking. G'd d all you anti-abortion freaks who have enabled this. This is so infuriating. Never mind that she should have been given medication immediately when she was brought to the ER. But that's not happening in this post-Dobbs world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/opinion/kristl-tomlin-dobbs-children.html

This kid came in, and she was a 13-year-old kid. And she had been walking down the street, and this guy pulled up in the car. And he said, hey, you want to get in the car? I’ll buy you some food. And she went, OK. And she got in his car, and he took her to his apartment, where he locked her in, and he raped her in every available orifice.

And then the neighbors heard her screaming, and they called the police. And the police battered down the door and caught this guy in the act, arrested him, thankfully, and took her to the emergency room. And then, as part of her follow-up, she had a positive pregnancy test a couple of weeks later.

And when she came to my office, she’d had an ultrasound because this is part of this law, right? There’s a huge emphasis on ultrasound. There has to be, because this emphasis is on fetal heart rate, right? And you can only assess that through ultrasound, except through ultrasound, at small gestational ages like that, you typically need to do a transvaginal ultrasound.

So if you’ve never had that before, that is a probe that is stuck up your vagina and moved around until we can get the images that we need. So not amazing at the best of times, but definitely not amazing when you’re a child who’s just been abducted and raped. And the kid had an ultrasound, and there was no heart rate yet.

...And the mom was like, I don’t believe in abortion. I believe in adoption.


But then, a few weeks after that first appointment, the girl came back with her mom and wanted to get an abortion. And remember, the clock is ticking.

I had everything ready to go. I called the lawyers, and the lawyers went, mm, I don’t think so. ... we need to know whether or not there’s a heartbeat. I was like, but we don’t, right? Oh, and then she said, not only does she need an ultrasound, you need to wait 24 hours before you can give her medicine.

And it’s interesting because the advice you got was not necessarily following the letter of the law. But what the law does is create this culture of anxiety around what is supposed to be done at this very critical moment.

I think this is part of where the problem is. These laws are so ambiguous. This isn’t necessarily a criticism of the lawyers who are helping me. They were being hugely conservative in their advice to me. They were trying to help me.

But the issue is, what a lawyer interprets as conservative and what I then have to live on the ground when I’m telling this to a family, it’s they’re just different things.

So I had to go back into this room and tell this family. And I took the kid and her mom to the ultrasound suite. And it was, without a doubt, one of the worst experiences of my life because this kid just sobbed through the whole thing. And her mom sobbed through the whole thing, and my nurse sobbed through the whole thing. And of course, now, it’s been three weeks, and now there is a heartbeat.

And I have to say all this junk — I’m obligated to inform you that there is a heartbeat. And this kid just can’t even get words out. And she’s just shaking her head. I’m obligated to let you know that you may have pictures of this. Would you like your picture? ...none of that was necessary.

Dr. Tomlin asked them to come back the next day, following the lawyer’s advice. They did, and she gave the patient abortion medication.

And so, we did it. Great. Now I have to call the sheriff.

Altogether now: women aren’t people in the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:

This just gets crazier and crazier. From the party that goes on and on about free speech.

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Anonymous wrote:

This just gets crazier and crazier. From the party that goes on and on about free speech.

When they say free speech they don’t mean “free speech,” they mean “unfettered ability to say whatever I want and insult whomever I want with zero blowback.”

As evidenced by the fascist Go Go Boots Desantis’s actions.

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Anonymous wrote:I dare Trump supporters to listen to this horrifying testimony from a South Carolina pediatric and adolescent gynecologist who ultimately left because it was too hard to deal with the anti-abortion laws.

One of the cases she talks about involved a 13 year old child rape victim who is forced to get a transvaginal probe to see if there is a heartbeat, because of SC's laws.

It is heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking. G'd d all you anti-abortion freaks who have enabled this. This is so infuriating. Never mind that she should have been given medication immediately when she was brought to the ER. But that's not happening in this post-Dobbs world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/opinion/kristl-tomlin-dobbs-children.html

This kid came in, and she was a 13-year-old kid. And she had been walking down the street, and this guy pulled up in the car. And he said, hey, you want to get in the car? I’ll buy you some food. And she went, OK. And she got in his car, and he took her to his apartment, where he locked her in, and he raped her in every available orifice.

And then the neighbors heard her screaming, and they called the police. And the police battered down the door and caught this guy in the act, arrested him, thankfully, and took her to the emergency room. And then, as part of her follow-up, she had a positive pregnancy test a couple of weeks later.

And when she came to my office, she’d had an ultrasound because this is part of this law, right? There’s a huge emphasis on ultrasound. There has to be, because this emphasis is on fetal heart rate, right? And you can only assess that through ultrasound, except through ultrasound, at small gestational ages like that, you typically need to do a transvaginal ultrasound.

So if you’ve never had that before, that is a probe that is stuck up your vagina and moved around until we can get the images that we need. So not amazing at the best of times, but definitely not amazing when you’re a child who’s just been abducted and raped. And the kid had an ultrasound, and there was no heart rate yet.

...And the mom was like, I don’t believe in abortion. I believe in adoption.


But then, a few weeks after that first appointment, the girl came back with her mom and wanted to get an abortion. And remember, the clock is ticking.

I had everything ready to go. I called the lawyers, and the lawyers went, mm, I don’t think so. ... we need to know whether or not there’s a heartbeat. I was like, but we don’t, right? Oh, and then she said, not only does she need an ultrasound, you need to wait 24 hours before you can give her medicine.

And it’s interesting because the advice you got was not necessarily following the letter of the law. But what the law does is create this culture of anxiety around what is supposed to be done at this very critical moment.

I think this is part of where the problem is. These laws are so ambiguous. This isn’t necessarily a criticism of the lawyers who are helping me. They were being hugely conservative in their advice to me. They were trying to help me.

But the issue is, what a lawyer interprets as conservative and what I then have to live on the ground when I’m telling this to a family, it’s they’re just different things.

So I had to go back into this room and tell this family. And I took the kid and her mom to the ultrasound suite. And it was, without a doubt, one of the worst experiences of my life because this kid just sobbed through the whole thing. And her mom sobbed through the whole thing, and my nurse sobbed through the whole thing. And of course, now, it’s been three weeks, and now there is a heartbeat.

And I have to say all this junk — I’m obligated to inform you that there is a heartbeat. And this kid just can’t even get words out. And she’s just shaking her head. I’m obligated to let you know that you may have pictures of this. Would you like your picture? ...none of that was necessary.

Dr. Tomlin asked them to come back the next day, following the lawyer’s advice. They did, and she gave the patient abortion medication.

And so, we did it. Great. Now I have to call the sheriff.

Video form:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dare Trump supporters to listen to this horrifying testimony from a South Carolina pediatric and adolescent gynecologist who ultimately left because it was too hard to deal with the anti-abortion laws.

One of the cases she talks about involved a 13 year old child rape victim who is forced to get a transvaginal probe to see if there is a heartbeat, because of SC's laws.

It is heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking. G'd d all you anti-abortion freaks who have enabled this. This is so infuriating. Never mind that she should have been given medication immediately when she was brought to the ER. But that's not happening in this post-Dobbs world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/opinion/kristl-tomlin-dobbs-children.html

This kid came in, and she was a 13-year-old kid. And she had been walking down the street, and this guy pulled up in the car. And he said, hey, you want to get in the car? I’ll buy you some food. And she went, OK. And she got in his car, and he took her to his apartment, where he locked her in, and he raped her in every available orifice.

And then the neighbors heard her screaming, and they called the police. And the police battered down the door and caught this guy in the act, arrested him, thankfully, and took her to the emergency room. And then, as part of her follow-up, she had a positive pregnancy test a couple of weeks later.

And when she came to my office, she’d had an ultrasound because this is part of this law, right? There’s a huge emphasis on ultrasound. There has to be, because this emphasis is on fetal heart rate, right? And you can only assess that through ultrasound, except through ultrasound, at small gestational ages like that, you typically need to do a transvaginal ultrasound.

So if you’ve never had that before, that is a probe that is stuck up your vagina and moved around until we can get the images that we need. So not amazing at the best of times, but definitely not amazing when you’re a child who’s just been abducted and raped. And the kid had an ultrasound, and there was no heart rate yet.

...And the mom was like, I don’t believe in abortion. I believe in adoption.


But then, a few weeks after that first appointment, the girl came back with her mom and wanted to get an abortion. And remember, the clock is ticking.

I had everything ready to go. I called the lawyers, and the lawyers went, mm, I don’t think so. ... we need to know whether or not there’s a heartbeat. I was like, but we don’t, right? Oh, and then she said, not only does she need an ultrasound, you need to wait 24 hours before you can give her medicine.

And it’s interesting because the advice you got was not necessarily following the letter of the law. But what the law does is create this culture of anxiety around what is supposed to be done at this very critical moment.

I think this is part of where the problem is. These laws are so ambiguous. This isn’t necessarily a criticism of the lawyers who are helping me. They were being hugely conservative in their advice to me. They were trying to help me.

But the issue is, what a lawyer interprets as conservative and what I then have to live on the ground when I’m telling this to a family, it’s they’re just different things.

So I had to go back into this room and tell this family. And I took the kid and her mom to the ultrasound suite. And it was, without a doubt, one of the worst experiences of my life because this kid just sobbed through the whole thing. And her mom sobbed through the whole thing, and my nurse sobbed through the whole thing. And of course, now, it’s been three weeks, and now there is a heartbeat.

And I have to say all this junk — I’m obligated to inform you that there is a heartbeat. And this kid just can’t even get words out. And she’s just shaking her head. I’m obligated to let you know that you may have pictures of this. Would you like your picture? ...none of that was necessary.

Dr. Tomlin asked them to come back the next day, following the lawyer’s advice. They did, and she gave the patient abortion medication.

And so, we did it. Great. Now I have to call the sheriff.

Video form:

They won’t believe it, just like they didn’t believe the little girl in Ohio was raped and had to travel out of state to get an abortion. Best case scenario now that the doctor has gone public is that they all get harassed. They’ll ask for proof then blame the child and her mom for the rape, call them murderers, and try to get the doctor’s license revoked and cause her any legal problems they can create. In the infant mortality thread, there’s someone saying that the abortions didn’t cause more infant deaths, it just cause the babies to be born before they died. If they acknowledge their cruelty in any way, they’ll twist themselves into pretzels trying to justify their actions.

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Crickets

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Anonymous wrote:

Crickets

+1 Clarity is better, but it’s telling that hundreds of these situations keep happening all over the states with bans and none of the state legislatures have gone back and clarified the legislation AT ALL after years of hearing from doctors and patients that the vagueness in the laws is untenable. And then of course there’s Idaho who went to the Supreme Court in their fight to neglect dying women.

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I bet the candidate thought, old White guy lives here, her data probably said he’s at least a sometime Republican voter, this will be safe.

Turns out the decent men don’t love the idea of their loved ones bleeding out or going septic.

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