Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.
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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.


Israelis say hold my beer.
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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.


Israelis say hold my beer.


It’s the victim Olympics.

I vote Russia gold, Palestinians silver and Israel bronze.
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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.


Russians barely talk about the millions killed during WW2 and 1 and during Bolshevik Revolution. They do have one interesting saying though “where they go , tears follow “. I’ll let folks guess who that is about
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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


I mean, this is just kinda silly.

First, "global standing" means what to you exactly?

Second, how exactly is our security or prosperity affected by an alleged decline in global standing?

Third, even if "global standing" has some importance, what gives you the idea that supporting Israel will actually negatively affect it? (It won't.)


Global standing is everything when you want influence . The Middle East used to be the US’s sphere of influence. Not anymore. China brokered a historic peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran this year without any interference or knowledge by the U.S. -that’s huge . The US, not one to be one-upped, pushed Saudi Arabia to recognize Israel as well. Then, Hamas said “oh no, they don’t” and 10/7 happened.

China, Russia, and the ME have come together and realized they share more values . I hate to say it but nobody in the world is taking the US seriously with the rainbow lit White House and trans generals. It’s stuff like that has made us lose our influence worldwide particularly in the East (and I consider Russia the East)


I agree that China, the ME and Russia share values. That’s the problem.

That said, global standing comes from exactly two things: money and power.

China’s making inroads in the ME bc of these factors, not bc of its stellar human rights record WRT to Muslims (remember the Uighurs?).


Yep, their values are about supporting dictators, funding and arming terrorists, destabilizing governments, and trying to destroy anyone who gets in their way. And by the way, Russia, Iran and China are now the new colonizers.

Wild that the PP is trying to make them out to be the good guys.


I hope you realize you’ve just described the US? What with supporting dictators etc? Like chapter and verse?
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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.


Holy shite, an Islamophobe hell bent on defending the actions of Israel is calling out others for victim complex behavior?! Brother or sister, have you glanced into your own backyard yet?!?!
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It’s actually rather delusional that the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan -two countries that border Iran on each side and are surprised Iran hates us and created a nuclear program for protection. We aren’t going to go to war with them because we know they have nuke capability. I knew the Saddam has WMD’s story was bullshit from the start because there’s no way we would have invaded and did a ground offensive if he did. Nuke capability is like an insurance protection when it comes to war and it’s why Saudis hate Iran so much because they don’t have it. No Arabs do.


You know who might get it first? Hamas.

Yes I believe Palestinians who self create their own rockets will learn from Iranians how to enrich uranium underground. That should scare Israel if they weren’t so cocky and busy calling Palestinians dumb instead of calling Bibi dumb. Who knows what tips Iran gave Hamas to self make nukes despite worldwide sanctions? If Palestinians get even an inch of nuclear capability , you will stop seeing bombs over Gaza and the WB and you will see just how easy it is for both people there to suddenly get along .

Hamas is playing a long game and Bibi isn’t ready for primetime and can’t handle them. It’s time for him to resign or something
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I told some of you a long time ago that the ADL's "388% increase" BS was just that and that most of the incidents were NOT about hate against *Judaism* but about calling out israel's barbarism.

The media endlessly repeated the lie about some increase in hate crimes against *Jews* for being *JEWS* without ever actually demanding all of these incidents of hate against Jewish people simply being Jewish. I've been to the protests. We have Jewish people w/ us and they are welcomed with love.

J. Greenblatt and the ADL are a racist org serving Israel, not Judaism. He has gotten a platform on every media outlet over and over again to further show how the media plays into the lies conflating ANY criticism of israel w/ Judaism.

https://newrepublic.com/post/177993/adl-abandons-pretense-tracking-antisemitism-honestly-palestine-rallies
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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.


Holy shite, an Islamophobe hell bent on defending the actions of Israel is calling out others for victim complex behavior?! Brother or sister, have you glanced into your own backyard yet?!?!


I’m afraid you’ve mistaken me for someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.


Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.


The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.


A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.


Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.


Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.


Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”


The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.


America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.


Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.


My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.


Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!


Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.


Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.


So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!



DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.


Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.


Iran is a 5,000 year old civilization and, despite Israel's repeated attempts to provoke them into attacking IDF ( to give them a pretext to bomb Iran), they are showing restraint. Albeit, they have outed the USA for their behind the scenes statements to them that " the USA wants no war with Iran and wants no escalation"

In contrast, Israel was formed only about 80 years ago and in those 80 years has started multiple wars, brutalized their Palestinian cousins and forced their displacement , bombed Lebanon to such an extent that it created the conditions of decades of instability, created spyware that has destroyed the foundations of privacy, freedom of speech, diplomacy in the world and is now, in just 80 years since it's founding, committing Genocide.

Israel and the USA's unilateral support of its aggression towards ALL of it's neighbor's is the cause of Middle East instability, not Iran.

Further, the Ayatollahs and the Iranian mullah's in general were the CIA's choice to overthrow the elected government of the Iranian people under Mosadegh




Always the other guys’ fault.

I thought Russians had the world’s biggest victim complex.

Turns out it’s Arab states.


Russians barely talk about the millions killed during WW2 and 1 and during Bolshevik Revolution. They do have one interesting saying though “where they go , tears follow “. I’ll let folks guess who that is about


Gee, I wonder.
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Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2[/quote

Hmm, this deserves its own thread.]
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2


Houthi's FAFO.

They shouldn't have been bombing international ships in the Red Sea.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Us bombing Yemen.

https://apnews.com/article/yemen-houthis-biden-retaliation-attacks-0804b93372cd5e874a0dd03513fe36a2


Houthi's FAFO.

They shouldn't have been bombing international ships in the Red Sea.


Great another front in the never ending war that is the US support for Israel.
Anonymous
This isn't good.
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