Confederate Battle Flag

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you feel threatened by her?

No. To the contrary. For the first time in ages I am impressed by the decisive and forthright leadership being shown by a Republican. Ann Coulter, however, and her fellow travelers may feel threatened and, therefore, are attacking her heritage.

I thought that question was directed at me. Oy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Americans being Americans, and reacting nobly to tragedy, is not sick. But people are reexamining symbolism, which is change.

Liberals creating a cause when they don't see the discord they expected (i.e. white conservatives dancing in the streets about the murders, etc) is what's sick.

You can change all the symbols you want. It won't stop other Dylann Roofs out there.

Really, you need to drop your attacks on "liberals" because you are just making yourself look foolish. Republicans are removing flags and statues that liberals didn't even know about. If you value unity, why are you doing your best to destroy this time of unity? Liberals and Conservatives are standing together in solidarity and all you want to do is attack. If you are upset about the vestiges of the Confederacy being removed, blame the Republicans who are doing almost all of it.

You seem to be on a kick of accusing liberals of doing things based on feelings. This is really weird because one of the first debates between you and me involved you taking the position that it didn't matter what was true about someone because you "felt" it was true. I remember nearly being beside myself that an otherwise intelligent person would take a such a position. But, putting that aside, a thinking person would realize that Republicans are taking actions that are being applauded by liberals. A thinking person who valued unity would cheer such a thing. But, you seem to have an emotional need to attack. So, maybe you need to rethink your accusations about liberals being all about feelings?

Liberals and conservatives are standing together in solidarity? Hardly. The attack on the Confederate flag was started by liberals because they needed a scapegoat. Liberals couldn't stand the fact that conservatives and republicans were calling what Roof did reprehensible. But first, you started with posts about how republicans didn't immediate start screaming racism and waited a bit to see what was going on. Then you posted that that still wouldn't call it racism, but instead an attack on Christianity, despite the fact that many used the term "hate crime" when referring to a white man shooting black parishioners.

Again, I have no issues with the actions taken by republicans, especially in their own state. They are doing what they feel they should and I commend them for that, I've said that many times. I have also said I will watch them carefully to see what actions occurred when, because I don't want another politician in office who panders to the vocal majority to get votes. I think that's a fair stance to take.

I'm terribly sorry, though, that it hurts democrat's feelings when conservatives dare bring up the true history of how that flag got on top of the state house, how the Clintons were ok with the flag in AK, and other ways democrats have also supported the confederacy. I'm just glad you are glad that some republicans are willing to fix it for you.

So you conservatives are doing our bidding, even though it's wrong? We liberals must be magical.

Votes are magical.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you feel threatened by her?

No. To the contrary. For the first time in ages I am impressed by the decisive and forthright leadership being shown by a Republican. Ann Coulter, however, and her fellow travelers may feel threatened and, therefore, are attacking her heritage.

This battle is between the white supremacists and the Tea Party types like Coulter on one side, vs. the more moderate and mainstream GOP on the other side. Liberals are fine with rallying behind the more moderate and mainstream GOP to oppose racism, but the problem is still one that's primarily inside the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you feel threatened by her?

No. To the contrary. For the first time in ages I am impressed by the decisive and forthright leadership being shown by a Republican. Ann Coulter, however, and her fellow travelers may feel threatened and, therefore, are attacking her heritage.

This battle is between the white supremacists and the Tea Party types like Coulter on one side, vs. the more moderate and mainstream GOP on the other side. Liberals are fine with rallying behind the more moderate and mainstream GOP to oppose racism, but the problem is still one that's primarily inside the GOP.

The Tea Party does not endorse the White Supremacists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

We've already been through the whole "KKK/Democrat" thing. The KKK "Democrats" were Dixiecrats who split off from the mainstream Democrats, and who are basically the Tea Party of today. Their ideology has virtually nothing to do with Democrats of today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you feel threatened by her?

No. To the contrary. For the first time in ages I am impressed by the decisive and forthright leadership being shown by a Republican. Ann Coulter, however, and her fellow travelers may feel threatened and, therefore, are attacking her heritage.

This battle is between the white supremacists and the Tea Party types like Coulter on one side, vs. the more moderate and mainstream GOP on the other side. Liberals are fine with rallying behind the more moderate and mainstream GOP to oppose racism, but the problem is still one that's primarily inside the GOP.

The Tea Party does not endorse the White Supremacists.

LMAO! White supremacists are a big part of and support the Tea Party. You are either really out of touch or in some serious delusional denial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Do you feel threatened by her?

No. To the contrary. For the first time in ages I am impressed by the decisive and forthright leadership being shown by a Republican. Ann Coulter, however, and her fellow travelers may feel threatened and, therefore, are attacking her heritage.

This battle is between the white supremacists and the Tea Party types like Coulter on one side, vs. the more moderate and mainstream GOP on the other side. Liberals are fine with rallying behind the more moderate and mainstream GOP to oppose racism, but the problem is still one that's primarily inside the GOP.

The Tea Party does not endorse the White Supremacists.

White Supremacists endorse the Tea Party.

[Anonymous]

The new conservative mantra:

I have the freedom to say what I want. And if you criticize me for saying it, then you're restricting my freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

PP here.

Johnson? If you are going to make statements like that then go learn the history of the man's life, not just a part, and read how he started the changes in the 50's and what he did to effect the CRA. There is no excuse to not know the facts given the resource you have at your fingertips and are using to access this forum.

BTW...I never have and never will belong to a party...they have to earn my vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new conservative mantra:

I have the freedom to say what I want. And if you criticize me for saying it, then you're restricting my freedom.

They want us to tolerate their intolerance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

We've already been through the whole "KKK/Democrat" thing. The KKK "Democrats" were Dixiecrats who split off from the mainstream Democrats, and who are basically the Tea Party of today. Their ideology has virtually nothing to do with Democrats of today.

We are doing it again, until you get it right. The FACT is, the KKK overwhelmingly supported democrats back in the day, and for good reason. The Tea Party is not even remotely associated with the KKK - that is simply the progressive wet dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

We've already been through the whole "KKK/Democrat" thing. The KKK "Democrats" were Dixiecrats who split off from the mainstream Democrats, and who are basically the Tea Party of today. Their ideology has virtually nothing to do with Democrats of today.

We are doing it again, until you get it right. The FACT is, the KKK overwhelmingly supported democrats back in the day, and for good reason. The Tea Party is not even remotely associated with the KKK - that is simply the progressive wet dream.

Progressives hate the fact that libertarians dominate the tea party. Libertarians also support marriage equality, marijuana legalization, civil rights, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

We've already been through the whole "KKK/Democrat" thing. The KKK "Democrats" were Dixiecrats who split off from the mainstream Democrats, and who are basically the Tea Party of today. Their ideology has virtually nothing to do with Democrats of today.

We are doing it again, until you get it right. The FACT is, the KKK overwhelmingly supported democrats back in the day, and for good reason. The Tea Party is not even remotely associated with the KKK - that is simply the progressive wet dream.

Again, you are suffering from mental dysfunction. The Dixiecrats that dominated southern politics and who were involved in the KKK SPLIT OFF from the Democrats and had far more ideology in common with the Tea Party of today than they do with liberals of today. The "Democrat" label is meaningless no matter how desperate you are to try and make the case. As for the Tea Party "not even remotely associated" - again you are either delusional or in deep denial of the facts. The typical Tea Party rally would quite frequently have confederate flags and racist epithets featured in its midst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these buttons are ridiculous and a non issue unless someone can prove the candidates approved of, and endorsed, them.

As for Hillary...she might be an intellectual and economic elitist but I would be shocked to see proof of her being a racist.

Conservative here - she's not. Neither is Bill, despite their actions in Arkansas, and despite the fact he played golf at an all-white club. That's what makes this hilarious, when y'all call republicans racist for supporting the very piece of history that Bill and Hillary did. Either they, as well as the republicans you accuse, are racist, or neither are.

I will give you the KKK. THEY are racist. And are historically democratic. And Lord knows Johnson was!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

Now? I think they are more likely to put up their own candidate that we can all ignore.

Hate to break it to all of you, but those pictures of "Clinton" buttons with confederate flags making the rounds are not official campaign buttons and were never endorsed or authorized by the campaign - and this can be proved by the fact that none of them have the union "bug" on them. The Clinton campaigns had all of their official campaign buttons made in union shops, and if the button doesn't have the union logo on it, it's not an official, endorsed or authorized button. Examples here: