Another day, another school shooting

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

No. What you said above is false. They were separated. There is so much misinformation in this whole thread an then posters here just start spiraling on the wrong information.

Ah, I didn't know that. That was my question. And it was answered. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

Still better than giving her kid weapons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^Also, that he's calling a 14yo a "psycho." Please everyone vote accordingly.

To me this is the worst part of what he said. As a teacher who has worked with a lot of troubled teens over the years, my heart breaks for this 14 year old child and all the families involved in this horrific tragedy.

He’s a clueless, insensitive MF. And he’ll be one overcooked steak-heart attack away from the Oval Office if these two heartless idiots win.

Right..,when you see that boy, even from the back, he is definitely a child.

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Anonymous wrote:JD Vance says school shootings are just a fact of life.

Here’s the full quote.

I vehemently disagree with Vance. He says school shooting are a fact of life. He doesn't like it that they are, but he believes that they are just a fact of life. I no more believe that school shootings are a fact of life that we have the accept than Republicans believed that abortion was a fact of life that we had to accept.

Just like the anti-abortion faction felt about RvW, I believe that Heller was wrongly decided and that the SCOTUS should overturn Heller. It was a very, very partisanly decided ruling that was supported by ethically questionable NRA support. But Heller needs to be overturned. I don't believe that the right to bear arms should include military grade weapons like hand grenades, anti-aircraft weaponry, anti-tank weapons, and semi-automatic fire weapons. I believe that everyone has a right to weapons for hunting, defense and security, but that there is not a need for the weapons designed to kill a large number of people in a short period of time. Those are weapons of war and not appropriate for use in public.

But as long as the wrongfully decided Heller ruling is on our books, we are not going to be able to pass legitimate and necessary gun controls laws that will protect our citizenry, children, and public. So, school shootings are only a fact of life because of an wrongly decided SCOTUS ruling and a crazy extreme lobbying group, the NRA.

We need to vote so that when our geriatric SCOTUS members finally retire or pass, that they will be replaced by a President who will appoint thoughtful jurists who will recognize the need to ignore the NRA and overturn the wrongfully decided Heller decision. And Trump and Vance are NOT it.

Put up or shut up, if you try to take the guns this country will be up in flames

[Anonymous]

https://joinouramerica.org/kamala-harris-is-wrong-police-officers-belong-in-schools/


Harris was for removing police from schools!

If these 2 police officers were not at the school, instead of 4 people being killed, it would be much much more but the time the police got the call, send cars over to the school. It could have been 15 minutes more.

Because the police officers on campus we able to detain the shooter so fast, the lives lost were minimal.


Are you give Harris a free pass here?

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They just put a warrant out for the mother

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Discord account linked to suspect shared plans for mass shooting
The Discord account that the FBI had linked to Colt Gray last year referenced plans for a future mass shooting and shared screenshots of firearms, according to documents obtained by CNN.

“im committing a mass shooting and im waiting a good 2-3 years,” stated the account user, according to screenshots included in an FBI incident report from May 2023 obtained by CNN. “I cant kill myself yet, cause I’m not contributing anything to culture I need to go out knowing I did.”

The account referenced Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter, and in separate posts shared a desire to target an elementary school and expressed frustration with the acceptance of transgender people.

Above a photograph of two firearms, the account posted, “I’m ready.”

The FBI tip was shared with the Jackson County Sheriff’s Office, which closed the investigation after finding that “the user behind the Discord account that made the threat cannot be substantiated.”

A Discord spokesperson told CNN on Wednesday the platform removed an account “believed to be associated with” Gray in May 2023 for violating Discord’s policy against extremism.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/colt-gray-suspect-georgia-shooter/index.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

Still better than giving her kid weapons.

I'm not a gun owner and would never buy one for my child. She locked her kids out of the house and sometines in freezing weather. They were crying to get back in. They asked their neighbors for food. She has multiple arrests across 4 states. All of that can take a terrible toll on kids.

[Anonymous]

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Discord account linked to suspect shared plans for mass shooting
The Discord account that the FBI had linked to Colt Gray last year referenced plans for a future mass shooting and shared screenshots of firearms, according to documents obtained by CNN.

“im committing a mass shooting and im waiting a good 2-3 years,” stated the account user, according to screenshots included in an FBI incident report from May 2023 obtained by CNN. “I cant kill myself yet, cause I’m not contributing anything to culture I need to go out knowing I did.”

The account referenced Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter, and in separate posts shared a desire to target an elementary school and expressed frustration with the acceptance of transgender people.

Above a photograph of two firearms, the account posted, “I’m ready.”

The FBI tip was shared with the Jackson County Sheriff’s Office, which closed the investigation after finding that “the user behind the Discord account that made the threat cannot be substantiated.”

A Discord spokesperson told CNN on Wednesday the platform removed an account “believed to be associated with” Gray in May 2023 for violating Discord’s policy against extremism.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/colt-gray-suspect-georgia-shooter/index.html

I can’t believe that in the course of one year he didn’t change his mind or back out. An entire year and never formulated that this was a bad idea. It seemed like he was depressed and be “important” on his way out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Discord account linked to suspect shared plans for mass shooting
The Discord account that the FBI had linked to Colt Gray last year referenced plans for a future mass shooting and shared screenshots of firearms, according to documents obtained by CNN.

“im committing a mass shooting and im waiting a good 2-3 years,” stated the account user, according to screenshots included in an FBI incident report from May 2023 obtained by CNN. “I cant kill myself yet, cause I’m not contributing anything to culture I need to go out knowing I did.”

The account referenced Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter, and in separate posts shared a desire to target an elementary school and expressed frustration with the acceptance of transgender people.

Above a photograph of two firearms, the account posted, “I’m ready.”

The FBI tip was shared with the Jackson County Sheriff’s Office, which closed the investigation after finding that “the user behind the Discord account that made the threat cannot be substantiated.”

A Discord spokesperson told CNN on Wednesday the platform removed an account “believed to be associated with” Gray in May 2023 for violating Discord’s policy against extremism.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/colt-gray-suspect-georgia-shooter/index.html

It seems like was speaking with other people. There are more of these kids out there connecting with each other. Kids are going online and getting radicalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance says school shootings are just a fact of life.

Here’s the full quote.

I vehemently disagree with Vance. He says school shooting are a fact of life. He doesn't like it that they are, but he believes that they are just a fact of life. I no more believe that school shootings are a fact of life that we have the accept than Republicans believed that abortion was a fact of life that we had to accept.

Just like the anti-abortion faction felt about RvW, I believe that Heller was wrongly decided and that the SCOTUS should overturn Heller. It was a very, very partisanly decided ruling that was supported by ethically questionable NRA support. But Heller needs to be overturned. I don't believe that the right to bear arms should include military grade weapons like hand grenades, anti-aircraft weaponry, anti-tank weapons, and semi-automatic fire weapons. I believe that everyone has a right to weapons for hunting, defense and security, but that there is not a need for the weapons designed to kill a large number of people in a short period of time. Those are weapons of war and not appropriate for use in public.

But as long as the wrongfully decided Heller ruling is on our books, we are not going to be able to pass legitimate and necessary gun controls laws that will protect our citizenry, children, and public. So, school shootings are only a fact of life because of an wrongly decided SCOTUS ruling and a crazy extreme lobbying group, the NRA.

We need to vote so that when our geriatric SCOTUS members finally retire or pass, that they will be replaced by a President who will appoint thoughtful jurists who will recognize the need to ignore the NRA and overturn the wrongfully decided Heller decision. And Trump and Vance are NOT it.

Put up or shut up, if you try to take the guns this country will be up in flames

What PP is saying is that "law abiding" gun owners will murder police officers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://joinouramerica.org/kamala-harris-is-wrong-police-officers-belong-in-schools/


Harris was for removing police from schools!

If these 2 police officers were not at the school, instead of 4 people being killed, it would be much much more but the time the police got the call, send cars over to the school. It could have been 15 minutes more.

Because the police officers on campus we able to detain the shooter so fast, the lives lost were minimal.


Are you give Harris a free pass here?

You know what I'm for? Safe schools that don't need military style police presence to save kids from shootings. You know how we get that? Gee, if only there was a way to stop focusing on how to keep kids safe from guns.... but we keep focusing on the symptom and not the underlying illness. There is no reason at all to have police in schools for this reason other than to protect them from the guns you all are protecting more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I def think the kid was strongly influenced negatively by parents who were nightmares and both contributed to this tragedy. FOR SURE.

But I think the kid in surrendering fairly easy prob did it to get attention as horrible and wrong as it is. The dad messed up most by buying him a weapon as a gift (WTF?!!) but the mom not being there and having a loss of stability in both parents equally messed up - definitely this is not all on the boy but on everyone around him. Sounds also like he was bullied by other kids.

As the poster child of a dysfunctional family myself, it's really really hard to come out of it in one piece. Esp in these times with guns, social media, etc. I can see how that kid was so messed up he didn't know where he was. No excuse and the parents 10000% for sure need to be punished but on some level, this was a tragedy more than what happened at the school and a tragedy for that entire family living the way they were.

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This kid was practically raising himself. It's like he was feral or something. It's so awful, and he never stood a chance. Is it only the sperm donor being charged? I know he's the one who purchased the gun, but I don't understand why the egg donor isn't being charged.

We don't know what she did. It is not against the law to be a drug addict or a bad parent.

I understand that. But he's being charged with cruelty to children, and I wondered if that also related to anything she participated in. She sounds horrible. You think she wasn't complicit in this?

He’s being charged with cruelty to children related to the 8 children his son shot with the gun he bought his son. It has nothing to do with his wife.

My question/thought/etc. is that the mother is still in that house, allowed the gun purchase, put up with it, kept it in the house, all of that. I know he purchased the gun, but they both had it in the house.

The mother was not allowed to contact the father directly and had to go through an intermediary so I doubt she was in the house.

She was too busy dtinking and using drugs.

Still better than giving her kid weapons.

I'm not a gun owner and would never buy one for my child. She locked her kids out of the house and sometines in freezing weather. They were crying to get back in. They asked their neighbors for food. She has multiple arrests across 4 states. All of that can take a terrible toll on kids.

And her arrests span 17 years.