Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Touchdowns and trophies seem relevant to her life and her current boyfriend? And maybe high school too. Sorry she's not writing for you about what you need in your life.

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Anonymous wrote:Touchdowns and trophies seem relevant to her life and her current boyfriend? And maybe high school too. Sorry she's not writing for you about what you need in your life.

No you aren’t sorry nor should you be. You can enjoy trophies and her, just know that she isn’t relevant to many in this world. If you are allowing opposing views to exist without denigrating the person behind the views, it is all good.

[Anonymous]

She has zero talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Touchdowns and trophies seem relevant to her life and her current boyfriend? And maybe high school too. Sorry she's not writing for you about what you need in your life.

No you aren’t sorry nor should you be. You can enjoy trophies and her, just know that she isn’t relevant to many in this world. If you are allowing opposing views to exist without denigrating the person behind the views, it is all good.

I guess it is a good thing in some ways that so many adults in their 20s, 30s, and 40s still identify so closely with hoping a boy will kiss them under the bleachers or wondering what their crush will say about them in Marry, Kiss, Kill or Spin the Bottle games. If that is what they find relatable to their lives, then they have pretty sweet and easy lives. And maybe Taylor's biggest stress to date has been that she wasn't picked once by her crush in spin the bottle. Although you, and I and others can't related to this being what life is about in adulthood, it seems that many do and can. I guess that isn't a bad thing - if you can make it into your 30s and 40s without adult responsibilities or life stressors or grief or loss or trauma, that's a lot to be thankful for. I can see why high school angst is probably what those people identify with in music.

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I think the Jojo comment may be wilder than the Joe being Maga.

Following for the crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire album is about Matty. I know I am in the minority, but I loved them together. They are so similar - tortured poets, musicians who enjoy their booze and are a little chaotic at times but brilliant too. And it’s well known she loves a Brit.

It’s such a tragic album really. It’s clear they both were hot for each other for a long time. They have the same producer and close friend, Jack Antonoff, who helped them stay in touch or reconnect. It is likely she left Joe who she was bored with to be with Matty. Then the fans went feral about Matty being “problematic” and also her tour had just started, so it was probably too much strain on him and the relationship. But yah, those two were pining for each other for over a decade (so many clues!) and would have made the cutest babies…unlike the current jock.

The lyric “I would have died for your sins, instead I just died inside…” She was ready to stick by him regardless of public opinion and her dad’s advice (though was she really going to throw so much away?), but he was probably spooked and wanted out.

Yes she wrote and produced the album in less than a year.

These two have been together for a lot longer than the public knows about. She sang at his band’s concert last January. And they were hanging out together with their mutual friends at parties and dinners back in 2022.
This album is definitely about Matty, except for So Long, London.

Taylor was hanging out with Matty in fall 2022, if not earlier, and Joe thought they were working together.

Matty came into the picture in 2014.

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Anonymous wrote:Touchdowns and trophies seem relevant to her life and her current boyfriend? And maybe high school too. Sorry she's not writing for you about what you need in your life.

No you aren’t sorry nor should you be. You can enjoy trophies and her, just know that she isn’t relevant to many in this world. If you are allowing opposing views to exist without denigrating the person behind the views, it is all good.

I guess it is a good thing in some ways that so many adults in their 20s, 30s, and 40s still identify so closely with hoping a boy will kiss them under the bleachers or wondering what their crush will say about them in Marry, Kiss, Kill or Spin the Bottle games. If that is what they find relatable to their lives, then they have pretty sweet and easy lives. And maybe Taylor's biggest stress to date has been that she wasn't picked once by her crush in spin the bottle. Although you, and I and others can't related to this being what life is about in adulthood, it seems that many do and can. I guess that isn't a bad thing - if you can make it into your 30s and 40s without adult responsibilities or life stressors or grief or loss or trauma, that's a lot to be thankful for. I can see why high school angst is probably what those people identify with in music.

I am beginning to understand why TS triggers some people.

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Anonymous wrote:She has zero talent.

Right. That’s why she keeps making chart-topping album after chart-topping album, sells out shows people waited hours in line for tickets for, and breaks records. Because she lacks talent. LOL. Your opinions aren’t facts.

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Anonymous wrote:She has zero talent.

You have zero relevance.

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Anonymous wrote:She has zero talent.

Right. That’s why she keeps making chart-topping album after chart-topping album, sells out shows people waited hours in line for tickets for, and breaks records. Because she lacks talent. LOL. Your opinions aren’t facts.

And Stanley mugs sell out too. There are lots of things people go crazy for and stand in line for. In this case, Taylor is a trend or a craze. They aren’t paying to see her for her talent. They would stand in line and pay to see her if she just walked around and talked to them and didn’t even sing.

She has taken singing lessons and can can carry a tune but she isn’t anything special when it comes to vocals.

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Anonymous wrote:So.Many.Words.

As always, I'm very impressed that she's able to write these complicated, interesting lyrics. But at the same time, it's such a word dump! I love TS but as another poster said, I feel she's really becoming overexposed. How many albums does she need to put out? And the constant revenge/pining theme isn't healthy for young girls to internalize.

I disagree. I’m 48 and only now getting in touch with my rage as a woman. I was taught to be a real people pleaser, always be glass half full, and I stuffed so much inside and I don’t think that’s healthy. Maybe it’s not healthy to go too far the other way, but I think her generation is trying to balance some of that and I appreciate it.

I mean, look at what is happening in our own country with women’s rights. I think it’s OK for girls to internalize some bad stuff, it’s not sunshine and roses.

I’m 47 and Alanis, Tori and Sinead were my musical rage women. I agree that women need to be in touch with their anger, but they also need to learn to speak it, and act on it (not with aggression, but as a sign that their rights/beliefs are being violated in some way). I don’t think Taylor does the second part well. She can point out her rage and then sit on stage in front of her fans giving a glitter sparkle performance in a mask. The singers of our generation were better about being honest about their feelings on and off the stage.

Interesting Tori wrote about boys and breakups u til she was 33.

All three other women you talk about or raped , to them on multiple occasions, one consistently as a child.

Yeah you’re gonna get a little more rage like that.

Sinead was not a popstar. She was a punk rocker who accidentally made one pop song that ruined our life and eventually lead to her demise.

oh and by the way, Alanis Morissette and Tori is love Taylor, Swift, and Alanis Morissette has performed with her

Okay- good for them! I would sing with Taylor if my way of making money was through singing. I guess I rate her trauma of getting dumped while being a billionaire as much much less than getting raped as a young girl. The thing is Tori Amos also dealt beautifully with rebuilding her self after a break up.
“When you gonna make up your mind, when you gonna love you as much as I do?”
Taylor just starts talking about touchdowns and trophies.
Enjoy Taylor, I will be listening to Maggie Roger’s.

I’m starting to understand why a lot of people hate Taylor because they have the inability to read and comprehend.

I’ll be listening to Maggie Rogers and Taylor, Swift and Imelda, May and pink and Billy Joel and Rihanna and Griff and a whole host of other people.

It’s wild you only have the ability to listen to one artist at a time

Silly- why are you drawing that conclusion? Luckily, I read functionally enough to hold a job. To be clear, I don’t purposely listen to Taylor because

1. I was molested as a kid. I have been through lots of therapy and will continue to do that probably for my entire life. I can’t understand the level of pain she feels as an adult when someone rejects her. I just don’t. I work every day to find peace, calm and hope in the minutia of my life as that is truly the only thing that brings contentment. Hearing her blather on about how hard it is to be a billionaire that was broken up with has little resonance with me. I can see she is hurt, so I hope she gets better but as an anthem for my life, I don’t identify.

2. I like to badly sing with along melodies at the top of my lungs in the car. She has a singsong talking thing going on especially with this album, so that doesn’t work for me. I know most of her hits from Kidz Bop.

3. She harkens back to high school in her songs and wants touch downs and trophies. I gave up thinking I needed that for happiness a long time ago. Her take on life is that traditional Americana values are the key to happiness. I’m not there.

4. She needs songs about HOW to heal and gain perspective in her life.

What is that smell? Must be the dump in your pants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She has zero talent.

I'm not a huge fan but this is just a nonsensical statement.

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Anonymous wrote:So.Many.Words.

As always, I'm very impressed that she's able to write these complicated, interesting lyrics. But at the same time, it's such a word dump! I love TS but as another poster said, I feel she's really becoming overexposed. How many albums does she need to put out? And the constant revenge/pining theme isn't healthy for young girls to internalize.

I disagree. I’m 48 and only now getting in touch with my rage as a woman. I was taught to be a real people pleaser, always be glass half full, and I stuffed so much inside and I don’t think that’s healthy. Maybe it’s not healthy to go too far the other way, but I think her generation is trying to balance some of that and I appreciate it.

I mean, look at what is happening in our own country with women’s rights. I think it’s OK for girls to internalize some bad stuff, it’s not sunshine and roses.

I’m 47 and Alanis, Tori and Sinead were my musical rage women. I agree that women need to be in touch with their anger, but they also need to learn to speak it, and act on it (not with aggression, but as a sign that their rights/beliefs are being violated in some way). I don’t think Taylor does the second part well. She can point out her rage and then sit on stage in front of her fans giving a glitter sparkle performance in a mask. The singers of our generation were better about being honest about their feelings on and off the stage.

Interesting Tori wrote about boys and breakups u til she was 33.

All three other women you talk about or raped , to them on multiple occasions, one consistently as a child.

Yeah you’re gonna get a little more rage like that.

Sinead was not a popstar. She was a punk rocker who accidentally made one pop song that ruined our life and eventually lead to her demise.

oh and by the way, Alanis Morissette and Tori is love Taylor, Swift, and Alanis Morissette has performed with her

Okay- good for them! I would sing with Taylor if my way of making money was through singing. I guess I rate her trauma of getting dumped while being a billionaire as much much less than getting raped as a young girl. The thing is Tori Amos also dealt beautifully with rebuilding her self after a break up.
“When you gonna make up your mind, when you gonna love you as much as I do?”
Taylor just starts talking about touchdowns and trophies.
Enjoy Taylor, I will be listening to Maggie Roger’s.

I’m starting to understand why a lot of people hate Taylor because they have the inability to read and comprehend.

I’ll be listening to Maggie Rogers and Taylor, Swift and Imelda, May and pink and Billy Joel and Rihanna and Griff and a whole host of other people.

It’s wild you only have the ability to listen to one artist at a time

Silly- why are you drawing that conclusion? Luckily, I read functionally enough to hold a job. To be clear, I don’t purposely listen to Taylor because

1. I was molested as a kid. I have been through lots of therapy and will continue to do that probably for my entire life. I can’t understand the level of pain she feels as an adult when someone rejects her. I just don’t. I work every day to find peace, calm and hope in the minutia of my life as that is truly the only thing that brings contentment. Hearing her blather on about how hard it is to be a billionaire that was broken up with has little resonance with me. I can see she is hurt, so I hope she gets better but as an anthem for my life, I don’t identify.

2. I like to badly sing with along melodies at the top of my lungs in the car. She has a singsong talking thing going on especially with this album, so that doesn’t work for me. I know most of her hits from Kidz Bop.

3. She harkens back to high school in her songs and wants touch downs and trophies. I gave up thinking I needed that for happiness a long time ago. Her take on life is that traditional Americana values are the key to happiness. I’m not there.

4. She needs songs about HOW to heal and gain perspective in her life.

You should really read this post to your therapist.

Not a whole songs are about her by the way.

You’re reading way too much into this and it’s probably because of your abuse to invalidate other peoples journeys.

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Anonymous wrote:So.Many.Words.

As always, I'm very impressed that she's able to write these complicated, interesting lyrics. But at the same time, it's such a word dump! I love TS but as another poster said, I feel she's really becoming overexposed. How many albums does she need to put out? And the constant revenge/pining theme isn't healthy for young girls to internalize.

I disagree. I’m 48 and only now getting in touch with my rage as a woman. I was taught to be a real people pleaser, always be glass half full, and I stuffed so much inside and I don’t think that’s healthy. Maybe it’s not healthy to go too far the other way, but I think her generation is trying to balance some of that and I appreciate it.

I mean, look at what is happening in our own country with women’s rights. I think it’s OK for girls to internalize some bad stuff, it’s not sunshine and roses.

I’m 47 and Alanis, Tori and Sinead were my musical rage women. I agree that women need to be in touch with their anger, but they also need to learn to speak it, and act on it (not with aggression, but as a sign that their rights/beliefs are being violated in some way). I don’t think Taylor does the second part well. She can point out her rage and then sit on stage in front of her fans giving a glitter sparkle performance in a mask. The singers of our generation were better about being honest about their feelings on and off the stage.

Interesting Tori wrote about boys and breakups u til she was 33.

All three other women you talk about or raped , to them on multiple occasions, one consistently as a child.

Yeah you’re gonna get a little more rage like that.

Sinead was not a popstar. She was a punk rocker who accidentally made one pop song that ruined our life and eventually lead to her demise.

oh and by the way, Alanis Morissette and Tori is love Taylor, Swift, and Alanis Morissette has performed with her

Okay- good for them! I would sing with Taylor if my way of making money was through singing. I guess I rate her trauma of getting dumped while being a billionaire as much much less than getting raped as a young girl. The thing is Tori Amos also dealt beautifully with rebuilding her self after a break up.
“When you gonna make up your mind, when you gonna love you as much as I do?”
Taylor just starts talking about touchdowns and trophies.
Enjoy Taylor, I will be listening to Maggie Roger’s.

I’m starting to understand why a lot of people hate Taylor because they have the inability to read and comprehend.

I’ll be listening to Maggie Rogers and Taylor, Swift and Imelda, May and pink and Billy Joel and Rihanna and Griff and a whole host of other people.

It’s wild you only have the ability to listen to one artist at a time

Silly- why are you drawing that conclusion? Luckily, I read functionally enough to hold a job. To be clear, I don’t purposely listen to Taylor because

1. I was molested as a kid. I have been through lots of therapy and will continue to do that probably for my entire life. I can’t understand the level of pain she feels as an adult when someone rejects her. I just don’t. I work every day to find peace, calm and hope in the minutia of my life as that is truly the only thing that brings contentment. Hearing her blather on about how hard it is to be a billionaire that was broken up with has little resonance with me. I can see she is hurt, so I hope she gets better but as an anthem for my life, I don’t identify.

2. I like to badly sing with along melodies at the top of my lungs in the car. She has a singsong talking thing going on especially with this album, so that doesn’t work for me. I know most of her hits from Kidz Bop.

3. She harkens back to high school in her songs and wants touch downs and trophies. I gave up thinking I needed that for happiness a long time ago. Her take on life is that traditional Americana values are the key to happiness. I’m not there.

4. She needs songs about HOW to heal and gain perspective in her life.

What is that smell? Must be the dump in your pants.

Wow not even middle school level antics here. Well I did over hear preschoolers talking about Taylor swift the other day. Guess they can type really early now.

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Anonymous wrote:So.Many.Words.

As always, I'm very impressed that she's able to write these complicated, interesting lyrics. But at the same time, it's such a word dump! I love TS but as another poster said, I feel she's really becoming overexposed. How many albums does she need to put out? And the constant revenge/pining theme isn't healthy for young girls to internalize.

I disagree. I’m 48 and only now getting in touch with my rage as a woman. I was taught to be a real people pleaser, always be glass half full, and I stuffed so much inside and I don’t think that’s healthy. Maybe it’s not healthy to go too far the other way, but I think her generation is trying to balance some of that and I appreciate it.

I mean, look at what is happening in our own country with women’s rights. I think it’s OK for girls to internalize some bad stuff, it’s not sunshine and roses.

I’m 47 and Alanis, Tori and Sinead were my musical rage women. I agree that women need to be in touch with their anger, but they also need to learn to speak it, and act on it (not with aggression, but as a sign that their rights/beliefs are being violated in some way). I don’t think Taylor does the second part well. She can point out her rage and then sit on stage in front of her fans giving a glitter sparkle performance in a mask. The singers of our generation were better about being honest about their feelings on and off the stage.

Interesting Tori wrote about boys and breakups u til she was 33.

All three other women you talk about or raped , to them on multiple occasions, one consistently as a child.

Yeah you’re gonna get a little more rage like that.

Sinead was not a popstar. She was a punk rocker who accidentally made one pop song that ruined our life and eventually lead to her demise.

oh and by the way, Alanis Morissette and Tori is love Taylor, Swift, and Alanis Morissette has performed with her

Okay- good for them! I would sing with Taylor if my way of making money was through singing. I guess I rate her trauma of getting dumped while being a billionaire as much much less than getting raped as a young girl. The thing is Tori Amos also dealt beautifully with rebuilding her self after a break up.
“When you gonna make up your mind, when you gonna love you as much as I do?”
Taylor just starts talking about touchdowns and trophies.
Enjoy Taylor, I will be listening to Maggie Roger’s.

I’m starting to understand why a lot of people hate Taylor because they have the inability to read and comprehend.

I’ll be listening to Maggie Rogers and Taylor, Swift and Imelda, May and pink and Billy Joel and Rihanna and Griff and a whole host of other people.

It’s wild you only have the ability to listen to one artist at a time

Silly- why are you drawing that conclusion? Luckily, I read functionally enough to hold a job. To be clear, I don’t purposely listen to Taylor because

1. I was molested as a kid. I have been through lots of therapy and will continue to do that probably for my entire life. I can’t understand the level of pain she feels as an adult when someone rejects her. I just don’t. I work every day to find peace, calm and hope in the minutia of my life as that is truly the only thing that brings contentment. Hearing her blather on about how hard it is to be a billionaire that was broken up with has little resonance with me. I can see she is hurt, so I hope she gets better but as an anthem for my life, I don’t identify.

2. I like to badly sing with along melodies at the top of my lungs in the car. She has a singsong talking thing going on especially with this album, so that doesn’t work for me. I know most of her hits from Kidz Bop.

3. She harkens back to high school in her songs and wants touch downs and trophies. I gave up thinking I needed that for happiness a long time ago. Her take on life is that traditional Americana values are the key to happiness. I’m not there.

4. She needs songs about HOW to heal and gain perspective in her life.

You should really read this post to your therapist.

Not a whole songs are about her by the way.

You’re reading way too much into this and it’s probably because of your abuse to invalidate other peoples journeys.

Whose journey did I invalidate?
Taylor’s? I specifically said “I can see she is hurt, so I hope she gets better but as an anthem for my life, I don’t identify.”