DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney

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Anonymous wrote:A Florida atheist group has petitioned school districts to ban the Bible from classrooms due to its “age-inappropriate” depictions of bestiality and rape — and the “woke behavior” of Jesus.

Good for them. Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." Just what the hell are Christians trying to teach our children?

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Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

Yes, it's not an appropriate topic for kindergartners, but the whole premise that kindergartners were being taught about gender and sexuality was a pretzel-twisting right wing lie to begin with.

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Anonymous wrote:A Florida atheist group has petitioned school districts to ban the Bible from classrooms due to its “age-inappropriate” depictions of bestiality and rape — and the “woke behavior” of Jesus.

Not to mention the "virgin birth". How is that appropriate content for children?

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Anonymous wrote:I like to imagine how much $ corporations have given to Charlie Crist and Nikki Fried over the last few days. And what this absurd stunt means for DeSantis's presidential fundraising efforts.

I hope this sinks him. He is such a whiny, tiny, turd. What a stupid fight to pick. He's so little and mean that he's abusing the legislative process to punish the state's largest employer and largest tourism draw.

What message do you think this sends to other employers who might have been considering moving here? What do you think this says to the business community about what life would be like if - gd forbid - DeSantis were to become president? Chaos, recklessness, a total disregard for taxpayers or employers.

Aw, someone has their feelings hurt. This send the message that a big corporation cannot tell the state what to do and think. It’s one thing for Disney to disagree with the Parental Bill but to actively try and get the law dismissed is a whole another level. It’s Disney who doubled down and decided to start this culture war.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rooting against Disney in this one. There’s no reason this mega-corporation cannot support the LGBT community while at the same time paying its equitable share. Corporations and their greed are as much an enemy of the people as is bigotry.

I would suggest you read up on the issue a bit more. Disney will actually pay less in taxes (and individual taxpayers will have to pay more) if Reedy Creek is dissolved.

One thing about the left that’s always interesting is parroting. Someone on Twitter or Reddit uses a phrase in a talking point - in this case Reedy Creek - and that talking point is constantly used almost verbatim over and over and over across multiple platforms. You can literally create a montage

That’s the name of the district. It’s not a “buzz word.”

I’m aware. It’s how it’s used. The talking point

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Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

I love how the right-wingers in this thread keep going back to this lie of a talking point about what the law actually says.

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Anonymous wrote:I like to imagine how much $ corporations have given to Charlie Crist and Nikki Fried over the last few days. And what this absurd stunt means for DeSantis's presidential fundraising efforts.

I hope this sinks him. He is such a whiny, tiny, turd. What a stupid fight to pick. He's so little and mean that he's abusing the legislative process to punish the state's largest employer and largest tourism draw.

What message do you think this sends to other employers who might have been considering moving here? What do you think this says to the business community about what life would be like if - gd forbid - DeSantis were to become president? Chaos, recklessness, a total disregard for taxpayers or employers.

Aw, someone has their feelings hurt. This send the message that a big corporation cannot tell the state what to do and think. It’s one thing for Disney to disagree with the Parental Bill but to actively try and get the law dismissed is a whole another level. It’s Disney who doubled down and decided to start this culture war.

Going in circles again, I see. Opposing the law is not a "whole another level." It's free speech. Corporations are people, my friend!

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Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

I love how the right-wingers in this thread keep going back to this lie of a talking point about what the law actually says.

The actual law itself is really interesting. Supporters tell you it bans something that isn't happening, sexualized instruction of young children. The text actually doesn't ban that thing (sexually explicit instruction is totally fine under that law of it doesn't touch on gender or orientation, so a teacher could teach a class of 5 year olds how to masturbate without that being banned, even if that's totally inappropriate), and the actual text would make acknowledging gender or families of any kind illegal which is obviously ridiculous. It's like an exercise in ways to demonstrate that law isn't what it says it is, and the result is precisely "don't say gay" as we see from the recent bannings of perfectly innocuous books that happen to have gay families in them.

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Anonymous wrote:I like to imagine how much $ corporations have given to Charlie Crist and Nikki Fried over the last few days. And what this absurd stunt means for DeSantis's presidential fundraising efforts.

I hope this sinks him. He is such a whiny, tiny, turd. What a stupid fight to pick. He's so little and mean that he's abusing the legislative process to punish the state's largest employer and largest tourism draw.

What message do you think this sends to other employers who might have been considering moving here? What do you think this says to the business community about what life would be like if - gd forbid - DeSantis were to become president? Chaos, recklessness, a total disregard for taxpayers or employers.

Aw, someone has their feelings hurt. This send the message that a big corporation cannot tell the state what to do and think. It’s one thing for Disney to disagree with the Parental Bill but to actively try and get the law dismissed is a whole another level. It’s Disney who doubled down and decided to start this culture war.

Oh, you sweet, stupid child. Remember that darling of the right, Citizens United? Corporations have First Amendment free speech rights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like to imagine how much $ corporations have given to Charlie Crist and Nikki Fried over the last few days. And what this absurd stunt means for DeSantis's presidential fundraising efforts.

I hope this sinks him. He is such a whiny, tiny, turd. What a stupid fight to pick. He's so little and mean that he's abusing the legislative process to punish the state's largest employer and largest tourism draw.

What message do you think this sends to other employers who might have been considering moving here? What do you think this says to the business community about what life would be like if - gd forbid - DeSantis were to become president? Chaos, recklessness, a total disregard for taxpayers or employers.

Aw, someone has their feelings hurt. This send the message that a big corporation cannot tell the state what to do and think. It’s one thing for Disney to disagree with the Parental Bill but to actively try and get the law dismissed is a whole another level. It’s Disney who doubled down and decided to start this culture war.

Except corporations CAN tell the state what to do and think. This is America, FFS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m rooting against Disney in this one. There’s no reason this mega-corporation cannot support the LGBT community while at the same time paying its equitable share. Corporations and their greed are as much an enemy of the people as is bigotry.

I would suggest you read up on the issue a bit more. Disney will actually pay less in taxes (and individual taxpayers will have to pay more) if Reedy Creek is dissolved.

One thing about the left that’s always interesting is parroting. Someone on Twitter or Reddit uses a phrase in a talking point - in this case Reedy Creek - and that talking point is constantly used almost verbatim over and over and over across multiple platforms. You can literally create a montage

That’s the name of the district. It’s not a “buzz word.”

I’m aware. It’s how it’s used. The talking point

Are you OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like to imagine how much $ corporations have given to Charlie Crist and Nikki Fried over the last few days. And what this absurd stunt means for DeSantis's presidential fundraising efforts.

I hope this sinks him. He is such a whiny, tiny, turd. What a stupid fight to pick. He's so little and mean that he's abusing the legislative process to punish the state's largest employer and largest tourism draw.

What message do you think this sends to other employers who might have been considering moving here? What do you think this says to the business community about what life would be like if - gd forbid - DeSantis were to become president? Chaos, recklessness, a total disregard for taxpayers or employers.

Aw, someone has their feelings hurt. This send the message that a big corporation cannot tell the state what to do and think. It’s one thing for Disney to disagree with the Parental Bill but to actively try and get the law dismissed is a whole another level. It’s Disney who doubled down and decided to start this culture war.

Corporations lobby all the time over all sorts of issues. Ron DeSantis started this because he believes only people who support him can have a say.

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Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

I love how the right-wingers in this thread keep going back to this lie of a talking point about what the law actually says.

The actual law itself is really interesting. Supporters tell you it bans something that isn't happening, sexualized instruction of young children. The text actually doesn't ban that thing (sexually explicit instruction is totally fine under that law of it doesn't touch on gender or orientation, so a teacher could teach a class of 5 year olds how to masturbate without that being banned, even if that's totally inappropriate), and the actual text would make acknowledging gender or families of any kind illegal which is obviously ridiculous. It's like an exercise in ways to demonstrate that law isn't what it says it is, and the result is precisely "don't say gay" as we see from the recent bannings of perfectly innocuous books that happen to have gay families in them.

I find the whole 1+1 = 2 thing very offensive. So glad the governor is on top of this. Deloitte Better keep their f’ing mouth shut!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like to imagine how much $ corporations have given to Charlie Crist and Nikki Fried over the last few days. And what this absurd stunt means for DeSantis's presidential fundraising efforts.

I hope this sinks him. He is such a whiny, tiny, turd. What a stupid fight to pick. He's so little and mean that he's abusing the legislative process to punish the state's largest employer and largest tourism draw.

What message do you think this sends to other employers who might have been considering moving here? What do you think this says to the business community about what life would be like if - gd forbid - DeSantis were to become president? Chaos, recklessness, a total disregard for taxpayers or employers.

Aw, someone has their feelings hurt. This send the message that a big corporation cannot tell the state what to do and think. It’s one thing for Disney to disagree with the Parental Bill but to actively try and get the law dismissed is a whole another level. It’s Disney who doubled down and decided to start this culture war.

A massive number of employers are moving to Florida particularly out of finance in NYC. I'm a Floridian and I think it is much better for taxpayers for Disney not to have this Reedy Creek entity. At present Disney does not have to work with the Florida Water Management districts.

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Ha ha ha! Yeah it’s not better for Florida’s taxpayers to pick up Disneys 1 billion debt or fund 163 million in services. Big financial win for Disney.