Pretends to be black to get into Medical school and it works

[Anonymous]

very interesting article

http://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/

[Anonymous]

Did you read the follow up articles? The guy applied, and was rejected, to dozens of medical schools. When he decided to run this little experiment, he still got rejection after rejection. Finally, a single acceptance came in, but clearly this guy was not a great candidate for med school - no matter how he presented himself. Rather than accepting that fact, the decided to blame reserve racism instead - easier on the ego.

The point he was hoping to make would have been more compelling if he had received mostly rejections as an Indian candidate and then mostly acceptances as a Black candidate. The one-off change doesn't tell us much of anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you read the follow up articles? The guy applied, and was rejected, to dozens of medical schools. When he decided to run this little experiment, he still got rejection after rejection. Finally, a single acceptance came in, but clearly this guy was not a great candidate for med school - no matter how he presented himself. Rather than accepting that fact, the decided to blame reserve racism instead - easier on the ego.

The point he was hoping to make would have been more compelling if he had received mostly rejections as an Indian candidate and then mostly acceptances as a Black candidate. The one-off change doesn't tell us much of anything.

Excellent point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you read the follow up articles? The guy applied, and was rejected, to dozens of medical schools. When he decided to run this little experiment, he still got rejection after rejection. Finally, a single acceptance came in, but clearly this guy was not a great candidate for med school - no matter how he presented himself. Rather than accepting that fact, the decided to blame reserve racism instead - easier on the ego.

The point he was hoping to make would have been more compelling if he had received mostly rejections as an Indian candidate and then mostly acceptances as a Black candidate. The one-off change doesn't tell us much of anything.

Excellent point.

+1

[Anonymous]

I have cousins who claimed they were black and who got into some of the best medical and law schools in the country. I'm sure they were qualified but I wondered if their decision to check off the black/african american box had something to do with getting in. We are middle eastern, and they could easily pass as black but we are definitely culturally not AA.

[Anonymous]

08:29-- Two points
1- How many medical schools need to accept you in order to become a doctor? The important difference is admitted/not admitted, not few admissions/lots of admissions.

2- There is no such thing as "reverse racism". It is just racism. Racism can be directed at any race, not just the ones you have in mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:very interesting article

http://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/

Too bad you didn't get the response you were truly after rather than the insightful response from 08:29.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have cousins who claimed they were black and who got into some of the best medical and law schools in the country. I'm sure they were qualified but I wondered if their decision to check off the black/african american box had something to do with getting in. We are middle eastern, and they could easily pass as black but we are definitely culturally not AA.

So what's next? Dr. Smith went to Harvard but Dr. Jones went to Howard med and on an on.....

[Anonymous]

Is this Mindy kalings brother?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:08:29-- Two points
1- How many medical schools need to accept you in order to become a doctor? The important difference is admitted/not admitted, not few admissions/lots of admissions.

2- There is no such thing as "reverse racism". It is just racism. Racism can be directed at any race, not just the ones you have in mind.

You then have to actually make it through med school, which this guy did not. You don't just get to become a doctor from being admitted to med school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:08:29-- Two points
1- How many medical schools need to accept you in order to become a doctor? The important difference is admitted/not admitted, not few admissions/lots of admissions.

2- There is no such thing as "reverse racism". It is just racism. Racism can be directed at any race, not just the ones you have in mind.

You then have to actually make it through med school, which this guy did not. You don't just get to become a doctor from being admitted to med school!

And his undergraduate gpa was only 3.1. Why he decided to wear blackface is beyond me though he surmised that he has proven that "affirmative action is all about letting lazy black people get into college ahead. Of kids who work hard."

Despite his political leanings, Ben Carson might have other thoughts about being black and lazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:08:29-- Two points
1- How many medical schools need to accept you in order to become a doctor? The important difference is admitted/not admitted, not few admissions/lots of admissions.

2- There is no such thing as "reverse racism". It is just racism. Racism can be directed at any race, not just the ones you have in mind.

If you're going to make charges of racism, you need to have a more statistically significant difference than this. Everyone knows that at admissions on every level, there are always applicants who fall right around the borderline, and whether they actually get in or not is kind of luck of the draw. As I understand it, the applications were done in different years, and he has no way of knowing whether the one school that accepted him as a black applicant might have also accepted him as an Indian applicant that year because the composition of their applicant pool was slightly different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:08:29-- Two points
1- How many medical schools need to accept you in order to become a doctor? The important difference is admitted/not admitted, not few admissions/lots of admissions.

2- There is no such thing as "reverse racism". It is just racism. Racism can be directed at any race, not just the ones you have in mind.

You then have to actually make it through med school, which this guy did not. You don't just get to become a doctor from being admitted to med school!

And his undergraduate gpa was only 3.1. Why he decided to wear blackface is beyond me though he surmised that he has proven that "affirmative action is all about letting lazy black people get into college ahead. Of kids who work hard."

Despite his political leanings, Ben Carson might have other thoughts about being black and lazy.

Should hs be defined as a lazy Indian with a 3.1 who was rejected by numerous schools before being accepted to one?

[Anonymous]

The argument about affirmative action at a medical school level is different than for undergrads.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/opinion/sunday/the-case-for-black-doctors.html?_r=0

Black doctors are more likely to practice in high-poverty communities that are minority-rich and physician-poor, and black patients are more likely to trust black doctors. Black people are drastically underserved compared to other groups in America.

This article also argues for a greater emphasis on social-economic, not just racial, diversity, too. There can be room for both in admissions.

[Anonymous]

His sister, Mindy Kaling (The Mindy Project) TV show was a product of NBC's diversity writing program which she had no problem taking advantage of and grateful for the opportunity.