Roe v Wade struck down

[Anonymous]

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It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Only because they scrambled and got to a state where they can get help.

With a national ban, the bodies will start piling up. So YOU will have THAT to look forward to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Only because they scrambled and got to a state where they can get help.

With a national ban, the bodies will start piling up. So YOU will have THAT to look forward to.

Well, setting aside the substance of that response, it's basically a tacit admission that the article posted was bogus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Given how the vast majority of abortions happen pre-viability and given the extreme restrictions, essentially all abortions are, in fact, now banned in many red states. DP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Does anyone else think that this guy must be a Trump sycophant because he uses the same shade of bronzer just to be like his idol?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Is that how you comfort yourself? Didn’t your guy just get burned by making such a boneheaded assumption and sharing it with the wide world?

[Anonymous]

Ok. Is there *anyway* to get all these women (and more) together for some kind of broad nationwide class action lawsuit that these abortion bans are literally unconstitutional as it takes away women’s right to “life”?

I have no idea who they would sue, but this is just so offensive and unconstitutional that women’s lives are literally at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok. Is there *anyway* to get all these women (and more) together for some kind of broad nationwide class action lawsuit that these abortion bans are literally unconstitutional as it takes away women’s right to “life”?

I have no idea who they would sue, but this is just so offensive and unconstitutional that women’s lives are literally at risk.

There's a group of women trying to litigate this in TX.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Is that how you comfort yourself? Didn’t your guy just get burned by making such a boneheaded assumption and sharing it with the wide world?

I'm not sure who you mean by "[my] guy"-- I assume Trump said something?-- but I'm not really political and won't be voting for Trump. I am pro-life, but I posted here primarily because I was mystified that so many people here were uncritically prepared to believe a story that is so obviously substantially incorrect. To this board's credit, no one has been willing to say, "no no, tens or hundreds of thousands deaths actually have resulted from this." Credit where credit's due, I suppose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many of those stories are just the way miscarriages go and not the fault of anyone

??? Amazingly stupid comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Given how the vast majority of abortions happen pre-viability and given the extreme restrictions, essentially all abortions are, in fact, now banned in many red states. DP.

THANK YOU the “pre-viability” PP is edging bonkers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Given how the vast majority of abortions happen pre-viability and given the extreme restrictions, essentially all abortions are, in fact, now banned in many red states. DP.

I'm the poster you quoted. I don't really disagree with much of what you said, but that's kind of my point: Saying that essentially all abortions are banned in red states is simply not the same thing as saying that tens or thousands of women have died from those bans. It's the uncritical and counterfactual elision of those subjects that I was objecting to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Is that how you comfort yourself? Didn’t your guy just get burned by making such a boneheaded assumption and sharing it with the wide world?

I'm not sure who you mean by "[my] guy"-- I assume Trump said something?-- but I'm not really political and won't be voting for Trump. I am pro-life, but I posted here primarily because I was mystified that so many people here were uncritically prepared to believe a story that is so obviously substantially incorrect. To this board's credit, no one has been willing to say, "no no, tens or hundreds of thousands deaths actually have resulted from this." Credit where credit's due, I suppose.

That’s not something that anyone is claiming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is very disappointing that major media is not reporting these stories. Not surprising, but disappointing.

The only abortions illegalized by Dobbs were certain pre-viability abortions in conservative states. The odds that there are a sufficient number of bleed outs that ten thousand occurred among the population of women familiar with this relatively obscure commentator is zero. Thats not a political statement on my part; it's just a matter of whats even remotely plausible or not.

Forced birthers just aren’t very bright.

Essentially all abortions were made illegal in forced birther states, including ones that forced birther women didn’t think “counted” as abortions.

At a minimum several thousand women online in these forced birthers states had poorly managed miscarriages or other early pregnancy complications.

The internet being what it is, word travels fast when some flaccid weird man claims it didn’t happen.

Women have died from these bans, guaranteed.

I know you're constantly affirmed in your intelligence, but let me run something by you:

Before Dobbs, you could ban post-viability abortions. So to say that "essentially all abortions were made illegal" after Dobbs means that certain pre-viability abortions were made illegal; the post-viability abortions were *already* illegal. To suggest that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of women have "bled out" because they couldn't get a pre-viability abortion is just so self-evidently untrue that really the only suitable epithet for it is "alternative facts."

Given how the vast majority of abortions happen pre-viability and given the extreme restrictions, essentially all abortions are, in fact, now banned in many red states. DP.

THANK YOU the “pre-viability” PP is edging bonkers.

I'm the "'pre-viability' PP". I'm actually generally curious: what inconsistency do you see between my observation and this graphic? This is about the absolute number of abortions, not the change in the number of abortions or the results those those changes.