NYT: Men where have you gone, please come back.

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No, men don't care about your sports trophies and music awards. They care about your face and figure. And yes, men literally hand money to escorts and Only Fans creators.

The good news is that men can achieve some romantic success by working hard and becoming rich. The bad news is that many people equate sexual attractiveness with virtue, and blame ugly incels for their lonely predicament.


This is shortsighted.

If we are interested in a long-term relationship, we care about more than her face and figure. All a man needs to do is be in a relationship with a truly bonkers woman once to make him realize that stunningly pretty is not[u] >>>> day-to-day competent and reliable.

And, yes, men do hand money to escorts and OF girls. However, few men seek a relationship with them (unless they are bonkers as well).

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Anonymous wrote:American women don't care about men's struggles, they wait at the finish line and pick the winners.


Men’s struggles? Tell us more.


Women do not care about men's struggles. It takes a lot of hard work and struggles to become elite in something that is worthwhile. It takes at least many years of practice and hard work just to make high school varsity teams. It takes many hours of practice and many years to become a good musician. Finally, it takes a lot of studying hours to become a good student, and hopefully one can end up at a good college. Many young men struggle to become successful in those areas. Women do not care about men's struggles to become the best version of themselves, they wait at the finish line and pick the winners. You can see this from young girls too, because I was invisible to girls in middle school; however, as a high school freshman, I was the best player on the varsity team and we won the state championship. We celebrated the championship with a video, and I was the band's frontman. The video became very popular, and all the girls in school wanted to sleep with me. Without the state championship trophy and the music video, I would have been totally invisible to girls.

Do girls and women not play varsity sports?


Yes, they do. Those women are usually interested in hooking up with other women.


Probably 90% of WNBA players are lesbians.

Lol. Just 20%
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Anonymous wrote:How many women in this forum would give serious consideration to a guy who works as a cashier at Walmart? Exactly.


Well if you are doing a high school level job and are in the prime of your life then why aren't you seeking out women who are also at that level of success in their life? Are you doing anything else with your life? There are certainly women who aren't the greatest in looks and intellect who might want a man who is a cashier.
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No, men don't care about your sports trophies and music awards. They care about your face and figure. And yes, men literally hand money to escorts and Only Fans creators.

The good news is that men can achieve some romantic success by working hard and becoming rich. The bad news is that many people equate sexual attractiveness with virtue, and blame ugly incels for their lonely predicament.


This is shortsighted.

If we are interested in a long-term relationship, we care about more than her face and figure. All a man needs to do is be in a relationship with a truly bonkers woman once to make him realize that stunningly pretty is not[u] >>>> day-to-day competent and reliable.

And, yes, men do hand money to escorts and OF girls. However, few men seek a relationship with them (unless they are bonkers as well).



Yes, the pp above should have said that you need to screen for crazy. Very important!
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Anonymous wrote:+1 lots of overweight not attractive girls would be fine with unathletic men overweight men.


A successful and handsome guy would sleep with a not attractive woman, but he would not commit to her. The not attractive woman, after sleeping with a successful and attractive guy, thinks that she is now entitled to a 9/10 caliber guy.

So, the guy is a douchebag who uses the not attractive woman for sex, and the not attractive woman is delusional.

But, still, it's the woman who is in the wrong here, of course.

If those incels would just lower their standards, I'm pretty sure that they can find a woman to date, too.
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Anonymous wrote:How many women in this forum would give serious consideration to a guy who works as a cashier at Walmart? Exactly.


As much consideration as a guy gives the cashier at Walmart.

What’s with these weird scenarios where you think the opposite sex has dramatically different standards.

I bet if the equivalent of Brad Pitt was working the register, plenty of women might sleep with him. Same if a Victoria’s Secret model was working the cash register. Nobody is getting into a relationship.


Yep, "hot mugshot" guy. This is a criminal who initially did not have any money. Yet, lots of women went after him. I think he dated some heiress at one point.
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Anonymous wrote:How many women in this forum would give serious consideration to a guy who works as a cashier at Walmart? Exactly.


Well if you are doing a high school level job and are in the prime of your life then why aren't you seeking out women who are also at that level of success in their life? Are you doing anything else with your life? There are certainly women who aren't the greatest in looks and intellect who might want a man who is a cashier.
Squidward is still single.
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Anonymous wrote:How many women in this forum would give serious consideration to a guy who works as a cashier at Walmart? Exactly.


As much consideration as a guy gives the cashier at Walmart.

What’s with these weird scenarios where you think the opposite sex has dramatically different standards.

I bet if the equivalent of Brad Pitt was working the register, plenty of women might sleep with him. Same if a Victoria’s Secret model was working the cash register. Nobody is getting into a relationship.


Yep, "hot mugshot" guy. This is a criminal who initially did not have any money. Yet, lots of women went after him. I think he dated some heiress at one point.


Not only did he date her, they had a whole baby together. All this talk about the standards they have is laughable. If the guy is hot enough, they will lower them without qualms and do whatever he tells them to do.
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Anonymous wrote:You don’t see [good men] because YOU are not showing up on their radar.


No, most men are "invisible" to women. Women don't notice the poor men, day laborers, homeless, and the incarcerated. They don't even notice the blue collar men and technology nerds who keep the world running. They only notice same rare men that all the other women notice.

Anonymous wrote:A woman should NEVER settle in a relationship. [From the thread "Accepting that I will never be a mother"]

Anonymous wrote:If those incels would just lower their standards, I'm pretty sure that they can find a woman to date.


Picky men become incels, picky women become spinsters.

Anonymous wrote:you need to screen for crazy!


Search for "hot crazy matrix" for a funny video about this.
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Anonymous wrote:American women don't care about men's struggles, they wait at the finish line and pick the winners.


Men’s struggles? Tell us more.


Women do not care about men's struggles. It takes a lot of hard work and struggles to become elite in something that is worthwhile. It takes at least many years of practice and hard work just to make high school varsity teams. It takes many hours of practice and many years to become a good musician. Finally, it takes a lot of studying hours to become a good student, and hopefully one can end up at a good college. Many young men struggle to become successful in those areas. Women do not care about men's struggles to become the best version of themselves, they wait at the finish line and pick the winners. You can see this from young girls too, because I was invisible to girls in middle school; however, as a high school freshman, I was the best player on the varsity team and we won the state championship. We celebrated the championship with a video, and I was the band's frontman. The video became very popular, and all the girls in school wanted to sleep with me. Without the state championship trophy and the music video, I would have been totally invisible to girls.


Bro, women struggle the exact same way, plus we face a culture of innate misogyny while doing it. You think we're just handed sports trophies, music awards, access to good schools and good jobs, and money?!

Women don't care more about men's struggles than their own. Men don't really seem to care about women's struggles in these areas either.

+1 my goodness. If men cared so much about women's struggles and having families maybe those who are in power, corporate and government who are overwhelmingly men, would pass better maternity care and leave laws.

Or start picking up after themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:A rich man can change a broke woman's life but a rich woman won't even look a broke man's way. Hypergamy is still alive in 2025 and beyond.


Weird.

Rich men like broke poor women.

Rich women don’t like broke poor men.

Wonder why? And who manages or does the cooking, cleaning, childcare, schedules, school & sports stuff, health appts, family traditions?


STFU all of the men I know are actively doing these things in their families.

Cool, glad you are so “in the know” of how all these men@/ households are run and their demonstrated roles and responsibilities.
Impressive!
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The comments in this thread are why men are gone.
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Anonymous wrote:The comments in this thread are why men are gone.


#DARVO
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Anonymous wrote:How many women in this forum would give serious consideration to a guy who works as a cashier at Walmart? Exactly.


As much consideration as a guy gives the cashier at Walmart.

What’s with these weird scenarios where you think the opposite sex has dramatically different standards.

I bet if the equivalent of Brad Pitt was working the register, plenty of women might sleep with him. Same if a Victoria’s Secret model was working the cash register. Nobody is getting into a relationship.


Yep, "hot mugshot" guy. This is a criminal who initially did not have any money. Yet, lots of women went after him. I think he dated some heiress at one point.


Not only did he date her, they had a whole baby together. All this talk about the standards they have is laughable. If the guy is hot enough, they will lower them without qualms and do whatever he tells them to do.


A whole baby? I read it was just a partial one, neither one of them could commit to a whole one.
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Anonymous wrote:Men are cracking up at this article online, and the comments are gold. For years now, women have been telling men to go away, you're lower than dirt. We don't need you! Well, they listened, and they want nothing to do with you. They are happy to pay off their mortgages and cars, and hang out with the guys, hassle free. And now you want them back? They're saying no, thanks. We're good.


Might want to look further south at more traditional cultures, that value masculinity and marriage.

Many are moving here.


The marriage rate in DCnis higher than every southern state and the marriage rate in NY state is also higher than 1/2 the southern states including GA, LA, KY and MS.

Nevada and Hawaii are the highest and Louisiana is the lowest.


What’s the DIVORCeE rate though and who files first
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