Shots fired at Trump rally

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, I went ahead and dug this one up because this is something that still baffles me. It just doesn’t add up. I feel like I am wearing a tinfoil hat, but I have questions.

There is a lot that points to this being staged:

The weapon was an AR-15. I admittedly know nothing about guns, but does it make sense that this gun could make contact and do so little damage?

His ear completely healed, even though his doc said it was a 2 cm wide wound to the cartilage. That’s the size of a penny. A wound that size to cartilage would bleed profusely. That whole side of his head and shirt should have been covered in blood. And cartilage doesn’t heal. Compare his wound to Mike Tyson’s.

Doc said it came within a quarter of an inch from entering his head. If that’s true, it would have taken his ear off, to say the least! Not just a grazing that healed a couple of days later.

SS did not rush him out and they even let him put his shoes back on and stand up for a photo op. That is not how SS operates. They should have had him covered, out of sight, and in a bulletproof car in the blink of an eye.

Trump never talks about it, and there doesn’t seem to be a major investigation. This is a man who thrives on drama, attention, and revenge. I realize the shooter is dead, but Trump investigates everyone who looks at him funny. Shouldn’t he be investigating the parents, school, anyone who might have known his plan? Holding the parents accountable?

The lack of panic from the attendees. If you watch the video, there is very little reaction. Why weren’t they running, taking cover? Trump was shot and another man was killed right in front of them. Why are they barely reacting?

And Yet:

How would you possibly stage something like that? I can’t see Trump arranging for some kid to shoot at him but barely miss. And a man was actually shot. I do think Trump is evil enough to sacrifice a rally-goer, but idk.

The number of people who would have known about it. Seems far-fetched to find that many people who would agree to be in the vicinity of a 19 year old firing into a crowd, be it rally-goers, SS, or staff. Especially since a guy died, I feel like someone would have come forward by now.

So, I don’t really think the whole thing was staged, but it still just doesn’t make sense. Something was definitely off.

Some thoughts:

I suspect the “2cm” wound - which is quite large - is the result of a journalist mistaking “cm” for “mm”. A 2 mm wound - just a nick - would be consistent with a slight graze from a 5.56mm bullet. Journalists are typically not very good at math, conceptualizing numbers, or checking facts these days, so that seems like a plausible explanation - the reporter confused mm for cm, and err’d by a factor of 10.


The wound itself may have been created by the wake vortex of the bullet - the disturbed air around the surface of the bullet, about .5mm thick, rather than the actual surface of the bullet itself. Or perhaps the shock-cone of the bullet, which is a shockwave propagating through the air from the tip bullet at approximately a 45 degree angle. It would have to have been extremely close, since intensity of the shockwave falls off at the inverse-square relative to distance. You can actually see the wake vortex of the bullet passing behind him in the Pulitzer photo. That streak is the disturbed air around the much smaller/thinner bullet.

The secret service personnel were shamefully disorganized and incompetent. Which is about what we should expect from them, since the other incidents in the past that have provided insights into poor judgment and incompetence and bad behavior on the part of the secret service. So this is true to form. However, they also knew the shooter had been taken out by their own counter sniper team at that point. But they couldn’t have know there might’ve been another sniper, waiting to engage after the initial chaos. Again - incompetence.


I think Trump doesn’t discuss it much because for him, it was a moment where he almost died, and he knows it, and his ego, his personality, his everything, couldn’t have stopped it. For him, it’s too uncomfortable to think about much. It reminds him that he’s not in total control of everything, and it makes him feel vulnerable. He doesn’t like that.


Investigation into shooter? Where is the media that should’ve been doing this for the last year? They’re AWOL. I cannot explain why the NYT or WaPo haven’t been doing a deep dive into every person who knew this guy. We knew more about a plumber from Ohio named Joe, 12 hours after he asked Obama an embarrassing question at a campaign event, than we know a year later about a guy who shot Trump. That’s journalistic malpractice.


The lack of panic from attendees? They’re all paralyzed/confused by the shock of what’s happening. They’re frozen. Pretty normal reaction for people, actually. A few understand what’s happening, and they’re probably trying not to panic so they don’t accidentally get shot by secret service. Which is pretty sensible on their part, given the secret service. Plus, I’m sure quite a few people in the crowd also figured something like this would happen sooner or later, and here it is.



As for the dead attendee, Mr Campetore…. I work with a person who insists that he was a crisis actor paid for by Trump/MAGA, and is in fact not dead at all, but living happily under an assumed identity, in a new place, with a lot of cash to start his new life. Would YOU recognize him if you met a stranger months later who moved to your neighborhood and kept to himself? I had to admit, I wouldn’t. I still think my coworker is crazy, but it goes to show you the right doesn’t have sole ownership of nutters. There’s plenty on the other side of the fence too, and she’s proof of it.


I think the simplest explanation is the most likely - Trump was shot at, grazed slightly in the ear, and was extremely lucky that he turned his head a couple seconds before. Because otherwise that bullet would’ve been dead center in his head.


That’s the simplest explanation.

I find these explanations of Trump’s wound to be very plausible. We have definitely been lied to about his ear’s being struck by the bullet itself and the size of the wound. What plausible reason is there for Trump to refuse to let any of the treating ER physicians make statements about his injury or allow any portion of his medical records from that day be released publicly?

Does it matter though? Even if it were the wake vortex or shock cone of the bullet, that still means he came with .5mm of getting shot. And less than an inch from a bullet tearing through his skull. It drew blood.

We can all agree that counts as “getting hit by a bullet”.

If I winged your kid like that, you’d be ready to kill me, right? Sure you would.
/thread

A bullet’s missing you by the narrowest of margins is not the same as the bullet’s actually hitting you. If the bullet actually hit you, you wouldn’t be fully healed, without a scar, two weeks later. Getting struck by a bullet fired from an AR-15 has more severe consequences than that.

So what? Are you butt hurt because your leader did or didn't actually take a bullet?

I’m grateful Trump wasn’t hit because that would have been very bad for this country and may have lead to rampant violence among our citizens, but I don’t like the lies and coverup surrounding this incident. I’m concerned about the role the Secret Service played, whether wittingly or unwittingly.

Umkay. Let me guess, the 2020 election was stolen and you've been abducted by aliens a few times too. Umkay.

Boy did you guess wrong! I loathe Trump, voted for Clinton and then Biden and then Harris, know that there is no credible evidence 2020 was stolen, and am very upset about the J6ers being pardoned.

I won’t be sad when Trump dies, but I don’t want it to be at the hands of an assassin and I don’t want a random person with mental health issues to disrupt a presidential election.

I want a thorough investigation conducted on the Butler rally shooting, I want the results to be made public, I want better Secret Service protection, and I don’t want to be lied to.

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God's will

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Anonymous wrote:Trumps ear looks like it has had no damage.

Cartilage doesn't grow back folks.

Yeah, that was theatre blood.

You folks are living in an alternate reality.

Yeah. Totally crazy to think that a lifetime conman pulled a con.

Exactly. He said his time on the apprentice was the best training he ever had. He learned how to throw bread and circuses. The best theater.

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Anonymous wrote:Trumps ear looks like it has had no damage.

Cartilage doesn't grow back folks.

Yeah, that was theatre blood.

Have you ever seen another attempted Presidential assassination where the secret service let him do a theatrical fist raise for a photographer?

Heck, the Secret Service hustled W out after he dodged the shoes.

Something is very fishy here. Almost as fishy as the edited Epstein jail video.

What other time have we seen a group of Secret Service agents that included multiple females, trying to carry someone as old, tall, fat, and uncooperative as Trump? I don’t think they were capable of whisking him off his feet and dispatching him quickly.

Gonna ignore the misogyny in your comment. The fact he was uncooperative during an effort to save is life is part of what makes it fishy. They wouldn’t need to carry him off but would keep him low to the ground while they covered him and got him to the car.

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Anonymous wrote:Trumps ear looks like it has had no damage.

Cartilage doesn't grow back folks.

Yeah, that was theatre blood.

Have you ever seen another attempted Presidential assassination where the secret service let him do a theatrical fist raise for a photographer?

Heck, the Secret Service hustled W out after he dodged the shoes.

Something is very fishy here. Almost as fishy as the edited Epstein jail video.

What other time have we seen a group of Secret Service agents that included multiple females, trying to carry someone as old, tall, fat, and uncooperative as Trump? I don’t think they were capable of whisking him off his feet and dispatching him quickly.

Gonna ignore the misogyny in your comment. The fact he was uncooperative during an effort to save is life is part of what makes it fishy. They wouldn’t need to carry him off but would keep him low to the ground while they covered him and got him to the car.

Sorry, I should have elaborated; my point wasn’t that female agents are physically weak, but that most of the agents trying to carry him off stage were substantially shorter than he is, making it difficult to both keep him covered and move him.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trumps ear looks like it has had no damage.

Cartilage doesn't grow back folks.

Yeah, that was theatre blood.

Have you ever seen another attempted Presidential assassination where the secret service let him do a theatrical fist raise for a photographer?

Heck, the Secret Service hustled W out after he dodged the shoes.

Something is very fishy here. Almost as fishy as the edited Epstein jail video.

What other time have we seen a group of Secret Service agents that included multiple females, trying to carry someone as old, tall, fat, and uncooperative as Trump? I don’t think they were capable of whisking him off his feet and dispatching him quickly.

Gonna ignore the misogyny in your comment. The fact he was uncooperative during an effort to save is life is part of what makes it fishy. They wouldn’t need to carry him off but would keep him low to the ground while they covered him and got him to the car.

Sorry, I should have elaborated; my point wasn’t that female agents are physically weak, but that most of the agents trying to carry him off stage were substantially shorter than he is, making it difficult to both keep him covered and move him.

The agents—both male and female—are also much lighter than Trump. Trump must be close to 300 pounds.

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God moved the bullet

Satanic deep state melted

Fake christians are the worst, cruel and stupid.

+1

If you’re a Christian and you believe in MAGA and Trumpism, then you are not a real Christian. Believe in God over an old rich man.

Which Christ? Not the old one from the Bible. This is the new short hair Republican secret Grindr account Jesus.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, I went ahead and dug this one up because this is something that still baffles me. It just doesn’t add up. I feel like I am wearing a tinfoil hat, but I have questions.

There is a lot that points to this being staged:

The weapon was an AR-15. I admittedly know nothing about guns, but does it make sense that this gun could make contact and do so little damage?

His ear completely healed, even though his doc said it was a 2 cm wide wound to the cartilage. That’s the size of a penny. A wound that size to cartilage would bleed profusely. That whole side of his head and shirt should have been covered in blood. And cartilage doesn’t heal. Compare his wound to Mike Tyson’s.

Doc said it came within a quarter of an inch from entering his head. If that’s true, it would have taken his ear off, to say the least! Not just a grazing that healed a couple of days later.

SS did not rush him out and they even let him put his shoes back on and stand up for a photo op. That is not how SS operates. They should have had him covered, out of sight, and in a bulletproof car in the blink of an eye.

Trump never talks about it, and there doesn’t seem to be a major investigation. This is a man who thrives on drama, attention, and revenge. I realize the shooter is dead, but Trump investigates everyone who looks at him funny. Shouldn’t he be investigating the parents, school, anyone who might have known his plan? Holding the parents accountable?

The lack of panic from the attendees. If you watch the video, there is very little reaction. Why weren’t they running, taking cover? Trump was shot and another man was killed right in front of them. Why are they barely reacting?

And Yet:

How would you possibly stage something like that? I can’t see Trump arranging for some kid to shoot at him but barely miss. And a man was actually shot. I do think Trump is evil enough to sacrifice a rally-goer, but idk.

The number of people who would have known about it. Seems far-fetched to find that many people who would agree to be in the vicinity of a 19 year old firing into a crowd, be it rally-goers, SS, or staff. Especially since a guy died, I feel like someone would have come forward by now.

So, I don’t really think the whole thing was staged, but it still just doesn’t make sense. Something was definitely off.

Some thoughts:

I suspect the “2cm” wound - which is quite large - is the result of a journalist mistaking “cm” for “mm”. A 2 mm wound - just a nick - would be consistent with a slight graze from a 5.56mm bullet. Journalists are typically not very good at math, conceptualizing numbers, or checking facts these days, so that seems like a plausible explanation - the reporter confused mm for cm, and err’d by a factor of 10.


The wound itself may have been created by the wake vortex of the bullet - the disturbed air around the surface of the bullet, about .5mm thick, rather than the actual surface of the bullet itself. Or perhaps the shock-cone of the bullet, which is a shockwave propagating through the air from the tip bullet at approximately a 45 degree angle. It would have to have been extremely close, since intensity of the shockwave falls off at the inverse-square relative to distance. You can actually see the wake vortex of the bullet passing behind him in the Pulitzer photo. That streak is the disturbed air around the much smaller/thinner bullet.

The secret service personnel were shamefully disorganized and incompetent. Which is about what we should expect from them, since the other incidents in the past that have provided insights into poor judgment and incompetence and bad behavior on the part of the secret service. So this is true to form. However, they also knew the shooter had been taken out by their own counter sniper team at that point. But they couldn’t have know there might’ve been another sniper, waiting to engage after the initial chaos. Again - incompetence.


I think Trump doesn’t discuss it much because for him, it was a moment where he almost died, and he knows it, and his ego, his personality, his everything, couldn’t have stopped it. For him, it’s too uncomfortable to think about much. It reminds him that he’s not in total control of everything, and it makes him feel vulnerable. He doesn’t like that.


Investigation into shooter? Where is the media that should’ve been doing this for the last year? They’re AWOL. I cannot explain why the NYT or WaPo haven’t been doing a deep dive into every person who knew this guy. We knew more about a plumber from Ohio named Joe, 12 hours after he asked Obama an embarrassing question at a campaign event, than we know a year later about a guy who shot Trump. That’s journalistic malpractice.


The lack of panic from attendees? They’re all paralyzed/confused by the shock of what’s happening. They’re frozen. Pretty normal reaction for people, actually. A few understand what’s happening, and they’re probably trying not to panic so they don’t accidentally get shot by secret service. Which is pretty sensible on their part, given the secret service. Plus, I’m sure quite a few people in the crowd also figured something like this would happen sooner or later, and here it is.



As for the dead attendee, Mr Campetore…. I work with a person who insists that he was a crisis actor paid for by Trump/MAGA, and is in fact not dead at all, but living happily under an assumed identity, in a new place, with a lot of cash to start his new life. Would YOU recognize him if you met a stranger months later who moved to your neighborhood and kept to himself? I had to admit, I wouldn’t. I still think my coworker is crazy, but it goes to show you the right doesn’t have sole ownership of nutters. There’s plenty on the other side of the fence too, and she’s proof of it.


I think the simplest explanation is the most likely - Trump was shot at, grazed slightly in the ear, and was extremely lucky that he turned his head a couple seconds before. Because otherwise that bullet would’ve been dead center in his head.


That’s the simplest explanation.

Thank you for your detailed response to the PP’s questions. I had a few similar questions, and the way that you’ve described what might have happened allays my concerns.

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It would be absolutely hilarious if someone attempted to assassinate him again while he is attending the Club World Cup final.

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God moved the bullet

Satanic deep state melted

Fake christians are the worst, cruel and stupid.

+1

If you’re a Christian and you believe in MAGA and Trumpism, then you are not a real Christian. Believe in God over an old rich man.

Trump acknowledges God

God moved the bullet

Atheist abortion sodomite left hates the light.

Any "acknowledgement" of God from Trump's mouth is taking his name in vain. Trump's policies are the exact opposite of Christ's teachings.


Christ taught:
“I was hungry and you gave me food… I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” Matthew 25:35–40 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:35-40

Trump did:
Expanded work requirements for SNAP, risking food loss for 3+ million Americans https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/who-will-be-affected-by-trump-administrations-medicaid-snap-work-requirements

Christ taught:
“Love your neighbor as yourself.” Mark 12:31 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012%3A31

Trump did:
Mass deportations and restrictions on legal immigrants’ access to healthcare https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/04/megabill-immigrants-health-care-medicaid-obamacare-00439311

Christ taught: “Blessed are the poor… for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” Luke 6:20 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206%3A20

Trump did:
Cuts to Medicaid could result in 11–12 million losing coverage https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-megabill-programs-medicare-snap/story?id=122460864

Christ taught:
“Sell your possessions and give to the poor.” Luke 12:33 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2012%3A33

Trump did:
$4.5 trillion in tax breaks, mostly benefiting the top 1% https://thehill.com/business/personal-finance/5384586-trump-bill-tax-cuts-medicaid-snap

Christ taught:
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth…” Matthew 6:19–21 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206%3A19%E2%80%9321

Trump did:
SALT cap raised to benefit wealthy households; working class sees minimal relief https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/connecticut/article/trump-big-beautiful-bill-ct-immigration-snap-taxes-20400555.php

Christ taught:
“Let the little children come to me…” Matthew 19:14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019%3A14

Trump did:
SNAP cuts may affect school lunch access for low-income children https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-megabill-programs-medicare-snap/story?id=122460864

Christ taught:
“Whatever you did for the least of these… you did for me.” Matthew 25:40 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025%3A40

Trump did:
Medicaid work requirements and paperwork burdens disproportionately harm the sick and elderly https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/who-will-be-affected-by-trump-administrations-medicaid-snap-work-requirements

Christ taught: “Give to everyone who begs from you…” Luke 6:30 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206%3A30

Trump did:
Medicaid and ACA cuts reduce access to care for low-income and homeless populations https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/04/megabill-immigrants-health-care-medicaid-obamacare-00439311

et cetera et cetera et cetera

It is clear, without any doubt that Trump does not follow Christ and neither do any of his supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be absolutely hilarious if someone attempted to assassinate him again while he is attending the Club World Cup final.

There’s nothing hilarious about attempts to assassinate the US president, even if he is Trump — and I loathe Trump.

[Anonymous]

You know what’s weird? That the name of the guy that attempted this is not widely known. No social media, no digital footprint. Basically a ghost. You’d think he’d be the lee harvey oswald of 2024. Makes you think

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, I went ahead and dug this one up because this is something that still baffles me. It just doesn’t add up. I feel like I am wearing a tinfoil hat, but I have questions.

There is a lot that points to this being staged:

The weapon was an AR-15. I admittedly know nothing about guns, but does it make sense that this gun could make contact and do so little damage?

His ear completely healed, even though his doc said it was a 2 cm wide wound to the cartilage. That’s the size of a penny. A wound that size to cartilage would bleed profusely. That whole side of his head and shirt should have been covered in blood. And cartilage doesn’t heal. Compare his wound to Mike Tyson’s.

Doc said it came within a quarter of an inch from entering his head. If that’s true, it would have taken his ear off, to say the least! Not just a grazing that healed a couple of days later.

SS did not rush him out and they even let him put his shoes back on and stand up for a photo op. That is not how SS operates. They should have had him covered, out of sight, and in a bulletproof car in the blink of an eye.

Trump never talks about it, and there doesn’t seem to be a major investigation. This is a man who thrives on drama, attention, and revenge. I realize the shooter is dead, but Trump investigates everyone who looks at him funny. Shouldn’t he be investigating the parents, school, anyone who might have known his plan? Holding the parents accountable?

The lack of panic from the attendees. If you watch the video, there is very little reaction. Why weren’t they running, taking cover? Trump was shot and another man was killed right in front of them. Why are they barely reacting?

And Yet:

How would you possibly stage something like that? I can’t see Trump arranging for some kid to shoot at him but barely miss. And a man was actually shot. I do think Trump is evil enough to sacrifice a rally-goer, but idk.

The number of people who would have known about it. Seems far-fetched to find that many people who would agree to be in the vicinity of a 19 year old firing into a crowd, be it rally-goers, SS, or staff. Especially since a guy died, I feel like someone would have come forward by now.

So, I don’t really think the whole thing was staged, but it still just doesn’t make sense. Something was definitely off.

Some thoughts:

I suspect the “2cm” wound - which is quite large - is the result of a journalist mistaking “cm” for “mm”. A 2 mm wound - just a nick - would be consistent with a slight graze from a 5.56mm bullet. Journalists are typically not very good at math, conceptualizing numbers, or checking facts these days, so that seems like a plausible explanation - the reporter confused mm for cm, and err’d by a factor of 10.


The wound itself may have been created by the wake vortex of the bullet - the disturbed air around the surface of the bullet, about .5mm thick, rather than the actual surface of the bullet itself. Or perhaps the shock-cone of the bullet, which is a shockwave propagating through the air from the tip bullet at approximately a 45 degree angle. It would have to have been extremely close, since intensity of the shockwave falls off at the inverse-square relative to distance. You can actually see the wake vortex of the bullet passing behind him in the Pulitzer photo. That streak is the disturbed air around the much smaller/thinner bullet.

The secret service personnel were shamefully disorganized and incompetent. Which is about what we should expect from them, since the other incidents in the past that have provided insights into poor judgment and incompetence and bad behavior on the part of the secret service. So this is true to form. However, they also knew the shooter had been taken out by their own counter sniper team at that point. But they couldn’t have know there might’ve been another sniper, waiting to engage after the initial chaos. Again - incompetence.


I think Trump doesn’t discuss it much because for him, it was a moment where he almost died, and he knows it, and his ego, his personality, his everything, couldn’t have stopped it. For him, it’s too uncomfortable to think about much. It reminds him that he’s not in total control of everything, and it makes him feel vulnerable. He doesn’t like that.


Investigation into shooter? Where is the media that should’ve been doing this for the last year? They’re AWOL. I cannot explain why the NYT or WaPo haven’t been doing a deep dive into every person who knew this guy. We knew more about a plumber from Ohio named Joe, 12 hours after he asked Obama an embarrassing question at a campaign event, than we know a year later about a guy who shot Trump. That’s journalistic malpractice.


The lack of panic from attendees? They’re all paralyzed/confused by the shock of what’s happening. They’re frozen. Pretty normal reaction for people, actually. A few understand what’s happening, and they’re probably trying not to panic so they don’t accidentally get shot by secret service. Which is pretty sensible on their part, given the secret service. Plus, I’m sure quite a few people in the crowd also figured something like this would happen sooner or later, and here it is.



As for the dead attendee, Mr Campetore…. I work with a person who insists that he was a crisis actor paid for by Trump/MAGA, and is in fact not dead at all, but living happily under an assumed identity, in a new place, with a lot of cash to start his new life. Would YOU recognize him if you met a stranger months later who moved to your neighborhood and kept to himself? I had to admit, I wouldn’t. I still think my coworker is crazy, but it goes to show you the right doesn’t have sole ownership of nutters. There’s plenty on the other side of the fence too, and she’s proof of it.


I think the simplest explanation is the most likely - Trump was shot at, grazed slightly in the ear, and was extremely lucky that he turned his head a couple seconds before. Because otherwise that bullet would’ve been dead center in his head.


That’s the simplest explanation.

I find these explanations of Trump’s wound to be very plausible. We have definitely been lied to about his ear’s being struck by the bullet itself and the size of the wound. What plausible reason is there for Trump to refuse to let any of the treating ER physicians make statements about his injury or allow any portion of his medical records from that day be released publicly?

Does it matter though? Even if it were the wake vortex or shock cone of the bullet, that still means he came with .5mm of getting shot. And less than an inch from a bullet tearing through his skull. It drew blood.

We can all agree that counts as “getting hit by a bullet”.

If I winged your kid like that, you’d be ready to kill me, right? Sure you would.
/thread

A bullet’s missing you by the narrowest of margins is not the same as the bullet’s actually hitting you. If the bullet actually hit you, you wouldn’t be fully healed, without a scar, two weeks later. Getting struck by a bullet fired from an AR-15 has more severe consequences than that.

So what? Are you butt hurt because your leader did or didn't actually take a bullet?

I’m grateful Trump wasn’t hit because that would have been very bad for this country and may have lead to rampant violence among our citizens, but I don’t like the lies and coverup surrounding this incident. I’m concerned about the role the Secret Service played, whether wittingly or unwittingly.

Umkay. Let me guess, the 2020 election was stolen and you've been abducted by aliens a few times too. Umkay.

Boy did you guess wrong! I loathe Trump, voted for Clinton and then Biden and then Harris, know that there is no credible evidence 2020 was stolen, and am very upset about the J6ers being pardoned.

I won’t be sad when Trump dies, but I don’t want it to be at the hands of an assassin and I don’t want a random person with mental health issues to disrupt a presidential election.

I want a thorough investigation conducted on the Butler rally shooting, I want the results to be made public, I want better Secret Service protection, and I don’t want to be lied to.

No, I had you figured out. A pea-brain who is just as gullible as the MAGA idiots per your comments about the "lies and coverup surrounding this incident". You said that. Not me and not any person of at least average intelligence who doesn't fall for any and every conspiracy theory that fits a preferred narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, I went ahead and dug this one up because this is something that still baffles me. It just doesn’t add up. I feel like I am wearing a tinfoil hat, but I have questions.

There is a lot that points to this being staged:

The weapon was an AR-15. I admittedly know nothing about guns, but does it make sense that this gun could make contact and do so little damage?

His ear completely healed, even though his doc said it was a 2 cm wide wound to the cartilage. That’s the size of a penny. A wound that size to cartilage would bleed profusely. That whole side of his head and shirt should have been covered in blood. And cartilage doesn’t heal. Compare his wound to Mike Tyson’s.

Doc said it came within a quarter of an inch from entering his head. If that’s true, it would have taken his ear off, to say the least! Not just a grazing that healed a couple of days later.

SS did not rush him out and they even let him put his shoes back on and stand up for a photo op. That is not how SS operates. They should have had him covered, out of sight, and in a bulletproof car in the blink of an eye.

Trump never talks about it, and there doesn’t seem to be a major investigation. This is a man who thrives on drama, attention, and revenge. I realize the shooter is dead, but Trump investigates everyone who looks at him funny. Shouldn’t he be investigating the parents, school, anyone who might have known his plan? Holding the parents accountable?

The lack of panic from the attendees. If you watch the video, there is very little reaction. Why weren’t they running, taking cover? Trump was shot and another man was killed right in front of them. Why are they barely reacting?

And Yet:

How would you possibly stage something like that? I can’t see Trump arranging for some kid to shoot at him but barely miss. And a man was actually shot. I do think Trump is evil enough to sacrifice a rally-goer, but idk.

The number of people who would have known about it. Seems far-fetched to find that many people who would agree to be in the vicinity of a 19 year old firing into a crowd, be it rally-goers, SS, or staff. Especially since a guy died, I feel like someone would have come forward by now.

So, I don’t really think the whole thing was staged, but it still just doesn’t make sense. Something was definitely off.

Some thoughts:

I suspect the “2cm” wound - which is quite large - is the result of a journalist mistaking “cm” for “mm”. A 2 mm wound - just a nick - would be consistent with a slight graze from a 5.56mm bullet. Journalists are typically not very good at math, conceptualizing numbers, or checking facts these days, so that seems like a plausible explanation - the reporter confused mm for cm, and err’d by a factor of 10.


The wound itself may have been created by the wake vortex of the bullet - the disturbed air around the surface of the bullet, about .5mm thick, rather than the actual surface of the bullet itself. Or perhaps the shock-cone of the bullet, which is a shockwave propagating through the air from the tip bullet at approximately a 45 degree angle. It would have to have been extremely close, since intensity of the shockwave falls off at the inverse-square relative to distance. You can actually see the wake vortex of the bullet passing behind him in the Pulitzer photo. That streak is the disturbed air around the much smaller/thinner bullet.

The secret service personnel were shamefully disorganized and incompetent. Which is about what we should expect from them, since the other incidents in the past that have provided insights into poor judgment and incompetence and bad behavior on the part of the secret service. So this is true to form. However, they also knew the shooter had been taken out by their own counter sniper team at that point. But they couldn’t have know there might’ve been another sniper, waiting to engage after the initial chaos. Again - incompetence.


I think Trump doesn’t discuss it much because for him, it was a moment where he almost died, and he knows it, and his ego, his personality, his everything, couldn’t have stopped it. For him, it’s too uncomfortable to think about much. It reminds him that he’s not in total control of everything, and it makes him feel vulnerable. He doesn’t like that.


Investigation into shooter? Where is the media that should’ve been doing this for the last year? They’re AWOL. I cannot explain why the NYT or WaPo haven’t been doing a deep dive into every person who knew this guy. We knew more about a plumber from Ohio named Joe, 12 hours after he asked Obama an embarrassing question at a campaign event, than we know a year later about a guy who shot Trump. That’s journalistic malpractice.


The lack of panic from attendees? They’re all paralyzed/confused by the shock of what’s happening. They’re frozen. Pretty normal reaction for people, actually. A few understand what’s happening, and they’re probably trying not to panic so they don’t accidentally get shot by secret service. Which is pretty sensible on their part, given the secret service. Plus, I’m sure quite a few people in the crowd also figured something like this would happen sooner or later, and here it is.



As for the dead attendee, Mr Campetore…. I work with a person who insists that he was a crisis actor paid for by Trump/MAGA, and is in fact not dead at all, but living happily under an assumed identity, in a new place, with a lot of cash to start his new life. Would YOU recognize him if you met a stranger months later who moved to your neighborhood and kept to himself? I had to admit, I wouldn’t. I still think my coworker is crazy, but it goes to show you the right doesn’t have sole ownership of nutters. There’s plenty on the other side of the fence too, and she’s proof of it.


I think the simplest explanation is the most likely - Trump was shot at, grazed slightly in the ear, and was extremely lucky that he turned his head a couple seconds before. Because otherwise that bullet would’ve been dead center in his head.


That’s the simplest explanation.

I find these explanations of Trump’s wound to be very plausible. We have definitely been lied to about his ear’s being struck by the bullet itself and the size of the wound. What plausible reason is there for Trump to refuse to let any of the treating ER physicians make statements about his injury or allow any portion of his medical records from that day be released publicly?

Does it matter though? Even if it were the wake vortex or shock cone of the bullet, that still means he came with .5mm of getting shot. And less than an inch from a bullet tearing through his skull. It drew blood.

We can all agree that counts as “getting hit by a bullet”.

If I winged your kid like that, you’d be ready to kill me, right? Sure you would.
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A bullet’s missing you by the narrowest of margins is not the same as the bullet’s actually hitting you. If the bullet actually hit you, you wouldn’t be fully healed, without a scar, two weeks later. Getting struck by a bullet fired from an AR-15 has more severe consequences than that.

So what? Are you butt hurt because your leader did or didn't actually take a bullet?

I’m grateful Trump wasn’t hit because that would have been very bad for this country and may have lead to rampant violence among our citizens, but I don’t like the lies and coverup surrounding this incident. I’m concerned about the role the Secret Service played, whether wittingly or unwittingly.

Umkay. Let me guess, the 2020 election was stolen and you've been abducted by aliens a few times too. Umkay.

Boy did you guess wrong! I loathe Trump, voted for Clinton and then Biden and then Harris, know that there is no credible evidence 2020 was stolen, and am very upset about the J6ers being pardoned.

I won’t be sad when Trump dies, but I don’t want it to be at the hands of an assassin and I don’t want a random person with mental health issues to disrupt a presidential election.

I want a thorough investigation conducted on the Butler rally shooting, I want the results to be made public, I want better Secret Service protection, and I don’t want to be lied to.

No, I had you figured out. A pea-brain who is just as gullible as the MAGA idiots per your comments about the "lies and coverup surrounding this incident". You said that. Not me and not any person of at least average intelligence who doesn't fall for any and every conspiracy theory that fits a preferred narrative.

A con man being a conman is predictable human behavior, not a conspiracy theory.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised Trump didn’t fire back. He’s a 2A guy.

Bastards. You want him dead, huh?

No. But aren’t guns supposed to protect people? I’m confused.

Not when they are in the hands of would-be assassins.

I hope they catch the bastard who did this and that they make an example of him.

Wasn't it a maga going after a....maga?? At a maga rally in a maga state? What went wrong ??