ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Received a similar email from Missouri. 1st part is the same as the Facebook post including the Dec 1 typo.

However, the remainer is different including this statement

"Additional information will be forthcoming from USSF regarding this DELAY"

[Anonymous]

Can you copy paste the whole thing here.

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

The powers that be should post their FINAL decision first and exclusively here BUT only after we reach at least 400 pages!

[Anonymous]

This is my first experience navigating a situation with USYS. I'm trying to imagine how this whole thing could have been managed any worse....I got nothin'. But wish I'd picked a different sport for my daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is my first experience navigating a situation with USYS. I'm trying to imagine how this whole thing could have been managed any worse....I got nothin'. But wish I'd picked a different sport for my daughter.

Wecome to soccer. By the time you figure out that it's all a big scam to play on your emotions + separate you from your $$$ it's too late. Your kid has aged out and they're already onto a new parent group and age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To grab at a share of parents pay to play money, US Soccer pulls in about $10 million from youth soccer registrations and overinflated coach license fees. And US Soccer has the expense of running major pro tournaments in the near future, the cost of moving their headquarters and couldn't even afford to pay there men's national team coach without a donation.

If US Soccer continually sides with a few years youth national teams (say 100 kids) trying to get a couple of relatively meaningless wins at the expense of grass roots soccer plus what I will call mainstream travel soccer plus the youth soccer pathway into the college game (millions of kids), I just can't see a scenario where youth soccer, AYSO, USYS and USCS, doesn't tell US Soccer to pound sand and start their own governance.

Not arguing whether youth soccer should be SY or CY but US Soccer is completely responsible for blindly allowing RAE to thrive and not coming up with any tangible solutions. The crazy thing is that it is in US Soccer's best interest to grow the game and allow the younger half of an age group to be on something close to equal footing with the older half in opportunity but US Soccer has been wholly negligent.

US Soccer would have better senior national teams if they were able to make a dent in RAE as they could have the opportunity to pull from a pool of players up to double the current pool to pick the best players.

The billions of dollars in the youth soccer economy waiting for orders from US Soccer who only pulls in about $150 million a year is too imbalanced to continue. I can't see a scenario where youth soccer doesn't splinter at this point.

So to be clear, US Soccer's failure isn't centered on not listening to youth soccer who want to adjust their age dates, it is on not being a leader in fixing RAE.

So many things to correct in here, not worth the time or effort.

I’ll just focus on RAE. US soccer has nothing to do with how children physically mature. (See genetics, nutrition, and sleep for that).

US soccer has done as solid a job of any at the national team level accounting for RAE. They made it a huge area of focus at all level when they made the change in 2015, as well as when they ran DA.

US soccer also has little to do with the nature of time as it regards to RAE and cutoff dates.

Your issue on this should start in the mirror, and maybe at the club and coach level. Parents are what drive clubs and coaches to make short term decisions. And the clubs and some coaches certainly know better than to dismiss maturation rate differences.

But look, the idea that some sorry of Soviet 5 year top down systemic plan would develop better talent or even keep more kids in sport (in this case soccer) past the age of 12 is just laughable. Kids quit sports, most of them quit just after puberty….

Why? Because it gets harder to be good when the physical playing field changes. Some unathletic kids who survived in sport before, can’t survive anymore. The sorting takes place for more serious competition on bigger fields and tons of kids just don’t want to play if they can’t win now (also a parenting problem I’d argue). This is just such as stupid argument “more kids will play if we make it less competitive” is silly. Competition is how we separate the winners from the losers - nothing more, nothing less. And some people hate losing, but not enough to motivate them to work really hard to not lose. Thats life! Do we do the same thing for non-sport competition? Dating pool? Job market? College admissions? Promotions? Etc? This whole “more kids should play and it should be less serious” is the millennial parent equivalent of the boomer parent participation trophy. Enough of the BS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Received a similar email from Missouri. 1st part is the same as the Facebook post including the Dec 1 typo.

However, the remainer is different including this statement

"Additional information will be forthcoming from USSF regarding this DELAY"

This sounds like it’s definitely switching fall 2026

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to this thread, and it’s interesting how invested people are in this issue. It seems to me that there will always be a 12 month spread no matter how they place the cut offs. Younger kids will always be at a slight disadvantage. It’s just going to be different kids. So the real issue is “trapped” players? An extra year of exposure doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing if your player is strong? So are all the SY advocates parents of smaller August-December players that aren’t getting much playing time? And if we moved to SY we’d have a similar issue with parents of February-July birthdays? Let’s just pick a cut off and live with it instead of upending these teams every 10 years.

“Trapped” doesn’t exist. It’s a crutch parents and kids use to excuse and blame outcomes they don’t like.

Youth soccer age dates create a misalignment for some players and their school grades. People refer to them they trapped players. You can use the term misaligned if trapped isn't to your personal liking.

Soccer is not school! Who cares?! It doesn’t need to align! Especially not in the “everyone should be welcome” levels and ages.

The 8th grade trap is called FOMO. The 12th grade trap is “my kid isn’t as good as we though, but I’ll blame the system because I should have known earlier.”

[Anonymous]

Anyone who says anything is definitely happening doesn’t understand US soccer politics. Nobody knows what’s going on. And that’s the sad truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Received a similar email from Missouri. 1st part is the same as the Facebook post including the Dec 1 typo.

However, the remainer is different including this statement

"Additional information will be forthcoming from USSF regarding this DELAY"

This sounds like it’s definitely switching fall 2026

Not really. Nowhere does the message indicate this. The ‘delay’ referenced seems more in line with the previous post about the issue being revisited in Fall 2026.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To grab at a share of parents pay to play money, US Soccer pulls in about $10 million from youth soccer registrations and overinflated coach license fees. And US Soccer has the expense of running major pro tournaments in the near future, the cost of moving their headquarters and couldn't even afford to pay there men's national team coach without a donation.

If US Soccer continually sides with a few years youth national teams (say 100 kids) trying to get a couple of relatively meaningless wins at the expense of grass roots soccer plus what I will call mainstream travel soccer plus the youth soccer pathway into the college game (millions of kids), I just can't see a scenario where youth soccer, AYSO, USYS and USCS, doesn't tell US Soccer to pound sand and start their own governance.

Not arguing whether youth soccer should be SY or CY but US Soccer is completely responsible for blindly allowing RAE to thrive and not coming up with any tangible solutions. The crazy thing is that it is in US Soccer's best interest to grow the game and allow the younger half of an age group to be on something close to equal footing with the older half in opportunity but US Soccer has been wholly negligent.

US Soccer would have better senior national teams if they were able to make a dent in RAE as they could have the opportunity to pull from a pool of players up to double the current pool to pick the best players.

The billions of dollars in the youth soccer economy waiting for orders from US Soccer who only pulls in about $150 million a year is too imbalanced to continue. I can't see a scenario where youth soccer doesn't splinter at this point.

So to be clear, US Soccer's failure isn't centered on not listening to youth soccer who want to adjust their age dates, it is on not being a leader in fixing RAE.

So many things to correct in here, not worth the time or effort.

I’ll just focus on RAE. US soccer has nothing to do with how children physically mature. (See genetics, nutrition, and sleep for that).

US soccer has done as solid a job of any at the national team level accounting for RAE. They made it a huge area of focus at all level when they made the change in 2015, as well as when they ran DA.

US soccer also has little to do with the nature of time as it regards to RAE and cutoff dates.

Your issue on this should start in the mirror, and maybe at the club and coach level. Parents are what drive clubs and coaches to make short term decisions. And the clubs and some coaches certainly know better than to dismiss maturation rate differences.

But look, the idea that some sorry of Soviet 5 year top down systemic plan would develop better talent or even keep more kids in sport (in this case soccer) past the age of 12 is just laughable. Kids quit sports, most of them quit just after puberty….

Why? Because it gets harder to be good when the physical playing field changes. Some unathletic kids who survived in sport before, can’t survive anymore. The sorting takes place for more serious competition on bigger fields and tons of kids just don’t want to play if they can’t win now (also a parenting problem I’d argue). This is just such as stupid argument “more kids will play if we make it less competitive” is silly. Competition is how we separate the winners from the losers - nothing more, nothing less. And some people hate losing, but not enough to motivate them to work really hard to not lose. Thats life! Do we do the same thing for non-sport competition? Dating pool? Job market? College admissions? Promotions? Etc? This whole “more kids should play and it should be less serious” is the millennial parent equivalent of the boomer parent participation trophy. Enough of the BS!

Dude you are annoying as hell with the RAE crap. If your kid is good, they are good. That’s it. Nothing more to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Received a similar email from Missouri. 1st part is the same as the Facebook post including the Dec 1 typo.

However, the remainer is different including this statement

"Additional information will be forthcoming from USSF regarding this DELAY"

This sounds like it’s definitely switching fall 2026

Not really. Nowhere does the message indicate this. The ‘delay’ referenced seems more in line with the previous post about the issue being revisited in Fall 2026.

Could the gentleperson who posted this give any kind of context? Adding an image to a post here is pretty straightforward. Surprising we have not seen ANY corroboration of this other than random people saying they received it without many receipts. I saw the lady from Michigan posted the email but blocked out the sender information, so as not to be able to confirm if it was actually sent from MSYS. I think someone has been selling wolf tickets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Received a similar email from Missouri. 1st part is the same as the Facebook post including the Dec 1 typo.

However, the remainer is different including this statement

"Additional information will be forthcoming from USSF regarding this DELAY"

So, someone is basically just copy/pasting a typo email.

Maybe I should try that too here out on the West and see if it spreads like wildfire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are coming up on an entire 24 hours with only the one Michigan league posting anything

It’s very funny that the entire US soccer universe is going off of this one random FB post taken as the truth. Not even one corroborating report besides “I heard it, too.”

Until someone from US Soccer actually sends out a formal presser, everyone is just arguing for no reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to this thread, and it’s interesting how invested people are in this issue. It seems to me that there will always be a 12 month spread no matter how they place the cut offs. Younger kids will always be at a slight disadvantage. It’s just going to be different kids. So the real issue is “trapped” players? An extra year of exposure doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad thing if your player is strong? So are all the SY advocates parents of smaller August-December players that aren’t getting much playing time? And if we moved to SY we’d have a similar issue with parents of February-July birthdays? Let’s just pick a cut off and live with it instead of upending these teams every 10 years.

“Trapped” doesn’t exist. It’s a crutch parents and kids use to excuse and blame outcomes they don’t like.

Youth soccer age dates create a misalignment for some players and their school grades. People refer to them they trapped players. You can use the term misaligned if trapped isn't to your personal liking.

Soccer is not school! Who cares?! It doesn’t need to align! Especially not in the “everyone should be welcome” levels and ages.

The 8th grade trap is called FOMO. The 12th grade trap is “my kid isn’t as good as we though, but I’ll blame the system because I should have known earlier.”

You are super dumb, or a troll, maybe both? The trapped player bit is well explained both here and on numerous websites.