Handmaid's Tale Season 3

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Anonymous wrote:^ even after that dynamite of an episode, season 3 struggles to captivate us. The debate above is so lame compared to s2 even.

June is a less sympathetic character this season. She cost two women their lives without good cause.

OP here (ha, first comment, after having finally caught up). I'd expect her to be less sympathetic by this point. Not sure I'd be able to hold it together well either, without compromising either my morality or my sanity.

June was a bit morally gray to begin with. She knew Luke was married to another woman.

I think that is what makes the story so compelling. She had not made the best moral choices and she did not really support her mom and her protests. She is a normal woman, who is struggling with rising up. She is trying to hold her own shit together and sometimes fails. The only way to survive it to turn off your emotions, and she went too far. Now she is trying to find the right path - by using her new found power to save as many kids as she can.

Good point.

Yes, this is in line with how Atwood wrote about June. She was very "normal" in behavior and intelligence. She wasn't a Serena Joy, but in the lead up to Gilead she was pretty apathetic. The "I'm not a feminist. I like men" and "I don't really pay attention to politics" type.

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Anonymous wrote:Was that the season finale?

Stop asking this every week

So she doesn’t have to— 13 episode season. So two more to go. Season finale 8/14. It’s called Mayday according to IMDB. Hmmmm....

In the first season, after Emily was punished for her relationship with the Martha, she told June that she no longer had insider information because she was too dangerous to be a part of “Mayday” any more. It sounds like we’re going to see more of the resistance.

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The Lawrence’s main Martha is the same woman who Nick traded illegal contraband with (and sometimes had sex with) in the kitchen of Jezebel’s back in season one. She is also involved in organizing resistance (same as the Mayday movement/group?). This makes me wonder if the “cage Marthas” ended up at Jezebel’s through her machinations, not just the one who stumbled upon June. Back when Fred took June to Jezebel’s, he commented on the prior professions of some of the sex slaves there- some were very well educated, which may mean that there are more potential resistance power players there than just the Marthas.

I think that the Lawrence’s Martha + Nick plus maybe some/many of the Jezebel’s women will be behind something that’s percolating, and Lawrence may have provided assistance (like allowing key Marthas to be chosen from the cages) or at least allowed it by turning a blind eye.

Just speculation, but it feels to me like something is going on there.

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Anonymous wrote:The Lawrence’s main Martha is the same woman who Nick traded illegal contraband with (and sometimes had sex with) in the kitchen of Jezebel’s back in season one. She is also involved in organizing resistance (same as the Mayday movement/group?). This makes me wonder if the “cage Marthas” ended up at Jezebel’s through her machinations, not just the one who stumbled upon June. Back when Fred took June to Jezebel’s, he commented on the prior professions of some of the sex slaves there- some were very well educated, which may mean that there are more potential resistance power players there than just the Marthas.

I think that the Lawrence’s Martha + Nick plus maybe some/many of the Jezebel’s women will be behind something that’s percolating, and Lawrence may have provided assistance (like allowing key Marthas to be chosen from the cages) or at least allowed it by turning a blind eye.

Just speculation, but it feels to me like something is going on there.

Resistance based at Jezebel's seems very likely because A) it's so horrific and without any veneer of ideology B) you couldn't put very pious people there as narcs C) the nature of the place enables clandestine conversation and makes surveillance difficult

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Anonymous wrote:All I could think during that episode was what the hell kind of steamer is getting blood out like that. I can’t even get a rug doctor to work in my house. Damn.

I noticed that too and thought it was very impressive.

Same.

me, too. I want that machine!

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Anonymous wrote:All I could think during that episode was what the hell kind of steamer is getting blood out like that. I can’t even get a rug doctor to work in my house. Damn.

I noticed that too and thought it was very impressive.

Same.

me, too. I want that machine!

I believe it’s the Bissell Under His Eye zx20. Very high ratings on Amazon.

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Anonymous wrote:All I could think during that episode was what the hell kind of steamer is getting blood out like that. I can’t even get a rug doctor to work in my house. Damn.

I noticed that too and thought it was very impressive.

Same.

me, too. I want that machine!

I believe it’s the Bissell Under His Eye zx20. Very high ratings on Amazon.

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Anonymous wrote:The Lawrence’s main Martha is the same woman who Nick traded illegal contraband with (and sometimes had sex with) in the kitchen of Jezebel’s back in season one. She is also involved in organizing resistance (same as the Mayday movement/group?). This makes me wonder if the “cage Marthas” ended up at Jezebel’s through her machinations, not just the one who stumbled upon June. Back when Fred took June to Jezebel’s, he commented on the prior professions of some of the sex slaves there- some were very well educated, which may mean that there are more potential resistance power players there than just the Marthas.

I think that the Lawrence’s Martha + Nick plus maybe some/many of the Jezebel’s women will be behind something that’s percolating, and Lawrence may have provided assistance (like allowing key Marthas to be chosen from the cages) or at least allowed it by turning a blind eye.

Just speculation, but it feels to me like something is going on there.

Thank you for this. I had forgotten / not noticed / overlooked that connection with Nick and this makes a lot of sense.

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I am at episode 5 and OMG - it is so fricking SLOW!!! I mean, it’s excruciating. Was this show always this slow or is this a season three thing?

I seriously can’t take this indulgent crap and really poor writing. Does it get better?

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Anonymous wrote:I am at episode 5 and OMG - it is so fricking SLOW!!! I mean, it’s excruciating. Was this show always this slow or is this a season three thing?

I seriously can’t take this indulgent crap and really poor writing. Does it get better?

It gets better. It had a slow start this season.

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Anonymous wrote:I am at episode 5 and OMG - it is so fricking SLOW!!! I mean, it’s excruciating. Was this show always this slow or is this a season three thing?

I seriously can’t take this indulgent crap and really poor writing. Does it get better?

It gets better. It had a slow start this season.

It starts better, then a few bad episodes and then the last one was much better.

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I think next season will be about the rise of the resistance. Which will be so interesting, although the show doesn’t deserve another season.

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Anonymous wrote:I think next season will be about the rise of the resistance. Which will be so interesting, although the show doesn’t deserve another season.

Or maybe just another season of June’s “mad face” and her trying to get her daughters back.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone sure that Serena set Fred up? I just watched and didn’t get that impression.

Because she ignored his concern about how far they were going

Because she looked far more guilty than scared

Because we believe the drummer who predicted it

And because we want to believe in her.

Also, there was that moment when he gave her the driver's seat. Before she got in the car, she looked back at where she was coming from and with a look of satisfaction, got in the driver's seat to drive ahead into a new life.

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Anonymous wrote:I think next season will be about the rise of the resistance. Which will be so interesting, although the show doesn’t deserve another season.

Or maybe just another season of June’s “mad face” and her trying to get her daughters back.

and the losing-her-mind eyes