I knew I wasn't supporting a saint but, I know the candidate I was supporting was the best choice for the America I love. So, shove your only patriots would vote for ABC BS where the sun doesn't shine. Thank you. |
I think the interference started much earlier. In 2014 Obama's administration became aware of it. Another interesting question that report does not address: Mueller and his team knew by November 2018 that there is no collusion, but chose not to release that information by announcing that they will release it after mid-term election. Why? |
Did you know he was this much “not a saint”? Did you hope for better from him? Or do you think this isn’t such a big deal and the corrupt media and dems are making s**t up? |
DP: I am not angry at Obama. His actions were completely understandable. He had no power to confront Putin when he found out in 2014 that Russian meddling with upcoming election. Obama was too focused on Iran deal to go through and he needed Putin to support that. If Obama accused Putin back in 2014, he knew he will never get his Iran deal, and that was his priority, not American election (since he assumed Hillary is winning regardless). |
Seth Rich: Certainly, there is no known killer. It is not unreasonable to speculate. To do it on national television, however, is inappropriate. I have a theory--but it is only speculation. Seems odd that they were so quick to determine that it was a robbery gone bad--when there was no robbery. I do not think Rich was working with Russians. Uranium One: There appear to be some questionable activities. More than one meeting in Trump tower. Central Park 5: That was a tragedy upon tragedy. Many fell into that trap. Where is the conspiracy here? The good part is that the truth finally came out. Terrible that it took so long. Birtherism: Ridiculous. However, Obama did a couple of things that triggered it--and, remember, it first came up in his primary with Clinton. The two things: 1) an error on the original Dreams promotion that said that Obama was born in Kenya. 2) Obama mentioned in his book that his mom had not kept track of his birth certificate--like Ruth had. Ruth was the American stepmother of two half-siblings. Benghazi: no conspiracy--only cover-up. Nunes Memo: appearing more and more valid. Wire tapping: pretty sure there was wire tapping going on somewhere in this investigation. |
I knew his opponent was "this much not a saint" and so did Democrats. You all put that candidate up anyway! I read Lessig. I heard from Bernie supporters and you still put her up. I supported my America and will continue to do so unapologetically. |
Exactly |
It’s an Andrew Weissman hit piece. Classically so. |
All good points |
Ok. Fine. I get that you made the best decision you feel you could have then. How about now? Hillary is in the rear view mirror. How do you feel about the report and the finding that Trump is more corrupt/corruptible than you presumably imagined when you voted for him? Do you still support him? |
DP here: I do support him. I didn't find anything new in the report that I didn't know before the election. I knew he was a businessman and he had prior dealings. If they rise to the level of criminal corruption, he should be prosecuted by DOJ. If DOJ chose not to prosecute him, it is on them. I am more concerned that after spending so much money on this investigation, now we will be spending more money on Congress investigation. It is time to move on. |
Np- the entire point of the report is to give Congress the means to pursue. Literally the entire point. You shouldn’t be shrugging that off, and you shouldn’t be hoping congresses just “moves on”. The ball is in congresses court to do their jobs. |
Why? Why do we have DOJ? Why DOJ don't do anything if they have evidence that the crime was committed? Should we fire all those people if they know there were the crime committed, have evidence to prove it and failing to prosecute it? |
So, you believe that Congress can do something that Mueller and his high power attorneys and FBI agents were unable to do? |
Because they turn it over to Congress to make the decision to impeach. As per the Constitution. It's called separation of powers. You might want to pick up a copy of the Constitution and start reading it. Former General Counsel of the Senate Judiciary Committee John Yoo has this response to your question: "The Constitution itself establishes impeachment, not prosecution, as the answer to a corrupt sitting president. Impeachment does not require the president to commit a crime, but instead refers to significant political mistakes or offenses. As Alexander Hamilton observed, they "are of a nature which may with preculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself. [t]he Constitution makes Congress alone, not prosecutors, accountable for firing or keeping a president accused of abusing the office." https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/john-yoo-its-now-impeachment-or-bust-as-it-should-be/2019/04/19/e1919860-6214-11e9-9ff2-abc984dc9eec_story.html?utm_term=.d098c5787349 |