Breaking: Debbie Wasserman-Schulz' IT staffer arrested while trying to flee US

[Anonymous]

This whole thing is like Benghazi. All that energy and time spent on it, just evaporated as soon as Hillary lost the election.

This is the exact same thing. It will disappear as soon as it no longer serves a purpose for the Republicans.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Just for the record, Awan’s attorney was the first to mention Awan's religion. Everyone else was focusing on Anwan’s nondenominational activities which will assuredly keep his attorney busy reviewing several thousand pages of FBI documents covering all sorts of nonreligious activities including: stolen government equipment, multiple bank fraud transfers, destruction of taxpayer property, breaches in security involving numerous members of the House, suspected links to a terrorist group, etc.

That is not true. You may not be familiar with all the activities among the Pizzagate folks, but his religion and national origin have been major issues. Check out this article:

http://www.wbdaily.com/democrats/debbie-blabbermouth-schultz-freaking-investigation-humas-cousin/

"Imran Awan is a Muslim who’s been working for ex-Democratic National Committee (DNC) chair, Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz since 2005; he’s an IT guy."

Or this:

http://theresurgent.com/why-is-debbie-wasserman-schultz-protecting-a-pakistani-wikileaks-suspect/

"The Awans, all Muslims of Pakistani descent..."

That article is from March 13, btw.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is like Benghazi. All that energy and time spent on it, just evaporated as soon as Hillary lost the election.

This is the exact same thing. It will disappear as soon as it no longer serves a purpose for the Republicans.

The thing with the conspiracy theorists is that they never lose. If this evaporates, it's just more evidence of the truth being suppressed. If there ends up being something to it, their conspiracy theory was correct all along. Either way, things work out for them.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else find it ironic that Amber Jamieson (the author who couldn't spell the name of a DOJ Prosecutor in the only known link referenced by Jeff of notice by Awan's traveling to Pakistan) didn't get press credentials to attend the Huntington Rally the other night? I thought legitimate press can easily get credentials to attend political rallies?

https://twitter.com/ambiej/status/893238251896672256

That Tweet doesn't say that she was denied press credentials. Could you also try to stay on topic instead of branching off into other stories that you report incorrectly?

I will gladly stay on topic, however the source of your quote isn't collaborated with any other reputable media source and Gowen's own statement referenced above. Its obvious to see where Ms Jamieson and her political bias lies in her own tweets (my favorite was the Russian adopted child in WVA), her credibility is dubious and her spelling is worse than mine (which doesn't say much). Besides, if you look at Luke Rosiak at the Daily Caller's tweeter feed, you don't see political bias at all. #ConsiderTheSource

https://twitter.com/lukerosiak

I have said multiple times that if you don't believe Awan's lawyer's statement (if the reporter lied about what the lawyer said, I'm sure he would have corrected it), then don't believe it. The only issue here is the nature of Awan's leaving the country. You may not accept that he notified the DOJ. But, you still have no evidence that he was "fleeing". The bottom line is that it is unfair to say -- as the subject line of this thread does -- that he was fleeing. At this point, you can only say that he was leaving under circumstances that are unclear. I can't believe that I've had to argue this simple point for so many pages.

I told you many times that facts matter and yet you continue to argue your point and when rules are reversed, either delete the thread or question it without a link. Here is a fact you won't argue - the current annual median income in Pakistan is between $1,500 and $3,700 per year. Google it. Based on the $283k wire sent in January 2017, this is equivalent to 76.5 years (the high side of the median income) for the country of Pakistan.

Another important element is one's credibility and the past 30 plus pages has shot holes in your "simple point" of fleeing. If someone wired over 76 years of their country's annual median income, one can surmise that "fleeing" is a motive. Its a simple point that even you can't argue.

I have long said that the facts will eventually come out and the mortgage fraud is a placeholder for the FBI as DWS has blocked any attempt by law enforcement to look at Awan's computer.

I want more popcorn.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for the record, Awan’s attorney was the first to mention Awan's religion. Everyone else was focusing on Anwan’s nondenominational activities which will assuredly keep his attorney busy reviewing several thousand pages of FBI documents covering all sorts of nonreligious activities including: stolen government equipment, multiple bank fraud transfers, destruction of taxpayer property, breaches in security involving numerous members of the House, suspected links to a terrorist group, etc.

That is not true. You may not be familiar with all the activities among the Pizzagate folks, but his religion and national origin have been major issues. Check out this article:

http://www.wbdaily.com/democrats/debbie-blabbermouth-schultz-freaking-investigation-humas-cousin/

"Imran Awan is a Muslim who’s been working for ex-Democratic National Committee (DNC) chair, Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz since 2005; he’s an IT guy."

Or this:

http://theresurgent.com/why-is-debbie-wasserman-schultz-protecting-a-pakistani-wikileaks-suspect/

"The Awans, all Muslims of Pakistani descent..."

That article is from March 13, btw.

The FBI and DOJ never mentioned his religion, which is the point of this comment

[Anonymous]

$283k wire? That's a very expensive funeral.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were no further details beyond what was quoted. My apologies.

I did my own research. Awan's car dealership allegedly took a loan from an Iraqi named Dr. Ali Al-Attar. Here is more info about him:

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, wrote that Attar "was observed in Beirut, Lebanon conversing with a Hezbollah official" in 2012–shortly after the loan was made. Attar has also been accused of helping provoke the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq as a leader of Iraqi dissidents opposed to Saddam Hussein.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/21/congressional-computer-admins-in-criminal-probe-owed-money-to-hezbollah-connected-fugitive/

If you ignore the obtuse wording, you see that Attar was one of the US supported dissidents who encouraged the US invasion of Iraq (he lived in MD and VA). He was seen conversing with a Hezbollah official in Beirut. Keep in mind that Hezbollah holds 12 seats in Lebanon's Parliament and its members hold many official roles in Lebanon's government. So, by itself, this allegation doesn't amount to much.

It amounts to his meeting with Hezbollah - a designated terrorist organization (as designation it maintained theoughout the Alabama administration, BTW).

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups

Just because the terrorist group has a few political members within the Lebanese parliament doesn't make it any less of a designated terror group.

I would not say this "doesn't amount to much."

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
I told you many times that facts matter and yet you continue to argue your point and when rules are reversed, either delete the thread or question it without a link. Here is a fact you won't argue - the current annual median income in Pakistan is between $1,500 and $3,700 per year. Google it. Based on the $283k wire sent in January 2017, this is equivalent to 76.5 years (the high side of the median income) for the country of Pakistan.

Another important element is one's credibility and the past 30 plus pages has shot holes in your "simple point" of fleeing. If someone wired over 76 years of their country's annual median income, one can surmise that "fleeing" is a motive. Its a simple point that even you can't argue.

I have long said that the facts will eventually come out and the mortgage fraud is a placeholder for the FBI as DWS has blocked any attempt by law enforcement to look at Awan's computer.

I want more popcorn.

You can surmise as much as you want, but that doesn't replace facts. You say that you believe the facts will eventually come out. But, if that is the case, why do you insist on saying that Awan was fleeing when there is no evidence that was actually happening? Why not wait for the facts to come out?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were no further details beyond what was quoted. My apologies.

I did my own research. Awan's car dealership allegedly took a loan from an Iraqi named Dr. Ali Al-Attar. Here is more info about him:

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, wrote that Attar "was observed in Beirut, Lebanon conversing with a Hezbollah official" in 2012–shortly after the loan was made. Attar has also been accused of helping provoke the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq as a leader of Iraqi dissidents opposed to Saddam Hussein.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/21/congressional-computer-admins-in-criminal-probe-owed-money-to-hezbollah-connected-fugitive/

If you ignore the obtuse wording, you see that Attar was one of the US supported dissidents who encouraged the US invasion of Iraq (he lived in MD and VA). He was seen conversing with a Hezbollah official in Beirut. Keep in mind that Hezbollah holds 12 seats in Lebanon's Parliament and its members hold many official roles in Lebanon's government. So, by itself, this allegation doesn't amount to much.

It amounts to his meeting with Hezbollah - a designated terrorist organization (as designation it maintained theoughout the Alabama administration, BTW).

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups

Just because the terrorist group has a few political members within the Lebanese parliament doesn't make it any less of a designated terror group.

I would not say this "doesn't amount to much."

The guy had a conversation with a Hezbollah official. We have no information about the topic or circumstances of the conversation. Given the official roles of many Hezbollah officials in Lebanon's government, there could be perfectly innocent explanations. Again, why do so many of you insist on jumping to conclusions rather than waiting for the evidence?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

The guy had a conversation with a Hezbollah official. We have no information about the topic or circumstances of the conversation. Given the official roles of many Hezbollah officials in Lebanon's government, there could be perfectly innocent explanations. Again, why do so many of you insist on jumping to conclusions rather than waiting for the evidence?

Oh, you mean like you do every day here, when it comes to the GOP?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

The guy had a conversation with a Hezbollah official. We have no information about the topic or circumstances of the conversation. Given the official roles of many Hezbollah officials in Lebanon's government, there could be perfectly innocent explanations. Again, why do so many of you insist on jumping to conclusions rather than waiting for the evidence?

Oh, you mean like you do every day here, when it comes to the GOP?

Posters keep saying this sort of thing, but I almost always provide evidence to support my point of view.If you think that I jump to conclusions and you think that what I do is wrong, why would you support it when others do it?

[Anonymous]

No you don't. You provide hearsay.

You just delete posts and threads you can't deal with.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:No you don't. You provide hearsay.

You just delete posts and threads you can't deal with.

Now you are outright lying. Plus you didn't answer my question. If I do that and you think it is wrong, why do you support it when other do it? \

BTW, if I am constantly deleting threads and posts that I can't deal with, why are your posts and this thread still here?

[Anonymous]

No, I am telling the truth.

You haven't deleted it yet, because you look like an ass and stepped in it and haven't recovered yet.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I told you many times that facts matter and yet you continue to argue your point and when rules are reversed, either delete the thread or question it without a link. Here is a fact you won't argue - the current annual median income in Pakistan is between $1,500 and $3,700 per year. Google it. Based on the $283k wire sent in January 2017, this is equivalent to 76.5 years (the high side of the median income) for the country of Pakistan.

Another important element is one's credibility and the past 30 plus pages has shot holes in your "simple point" of fleeing. If someone wired over 76 years of their country's annual median income, one can surmise that "fleeing" is a motive. Its a simple point that even you can't argue.

I have long said that the facts will eventually come out and the mortgage fraud is a placeholder for the FBI as DWS has blocked any attempt by law enforcement to look at Awan's computer.

I want more popcorn.

You can surmise as much as you want, but that doesn't replace facts. You say that you believe the facts will eventually come out. But, if that is the case, why do you insist on saying that Awan was fleeing when there is no evidence that was actually happening? Why not wait for the facts to come out?

Actually I am waiting for the modern day definition of what "is" is and for you to delete this thread when the indictment is issued.