LS/NVA Drama

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Just a heads-up — if you’re okay with a large roster, LS typically carries 16–17 players for rising U12. That means your kids will likely spend more time on the bench than on the field.

Flat out not true! Jeez, just make it up as you go along? Which teams exactly do you have this level of insight, my son plays for one you referenced so want to check your veracity

its true for top team. We had 17 this season for U12 and will have 19 for U13. Meaning one player does not dress. Not as bad as FVU or VDA which will roster 20-22 though.

Rostering 17 players for U12 means one kid is left out every game? VYSA caps game-day rosters at 16 for 9v9.

pretty sure that team has played 11v11 and 9v9 all season.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Just a heads-up — if you’re okay with a large roster, LS typically carries 16–17 players for rising U12. That means your kids will likely spend more time on the bench than on the field.

Flat out not true! Jeez, just make it up as you go along? Which teams exactly do you have this level of insight, my son plays for one you referenced so want to check your veracity

its true for top team. We had 17 this season for U12 and will have 19 for U13. Meaning one player does not dress. Not as bad as FVU or VDA which will roster 20-22 though.

FVU and VDA do not have more than 18 at u13/14. You just burned your own club.

Youre right, they actually have *way* more. FVU u13 boys have 23, and they are paying $5000 each.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Agree with most of this.

Club is losing RL from coaching which is a big loss as he was a conduit of looking for talent on the third teams and below. For years he found diamonds in the rough that eventually moved to top teams that other coaches wouldn’t take the time to scout on “lower fields”

2014 and 2015 have deep talent pools and have the top two teams set unless you are star coming from other clubs

2016 team is not good. They have two maybe three kids that would be on the top team of an age group in a normal year.

2017 team appeared weak as well. Not sure if this is a trend now of the quality coming out of the Academy.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Agree with most of this.

Club is losing RL from coaching which is a big loss as he was a conduit of looking for talent on the third teams and below. For years he found diamonds in the rough that eventually moved to top teams that other coaches wouldn’t take the time to scout on “lower fields”

2014 and 2015 have deep talent pools and have the top two teams set unless you are star coming from other clubs

2016 team is not good. They have two maybe three kids that would be on the top team of an age group in a normal year.

2017 team appeared weak as well. Not sure if this is a trend now of the quality coming out of the Academy.

Oh no, where is RL going?

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Agree with most of this.

Club is losing RL from coaching which is a big loss as he was a conduit of looking for talent on the third teams and below. For years he found diamonds in the rough that eventually moved to top teams that other coaches wouldn’t take the time to scout on “lower fields”

2014 and 2015 have deep talent pools and have the top two teams set unless you are star coming from other clubs

2016 team is not good. They have two maybe three kids that would be on the top team of an age group in a normal year.

2017 team appeared weak as well. Not sure if this is a trend now of the quality coming out of the Academy.

Oh no, where is RL going?

MLSN2 and GA. RL is on life support in VA and will be garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Just a heads-up — if you’re okay with a large roster, LS typically carries 16–17 players for rising U12. That means your kids will likely spend more time on the bench than on the field.

Flat out not true! Jeez, just make it up as you go along? Which teams exactly do you have this level of insight, my son plays for one you referenced so want to check your veracity

its true for top team. We had 17 this season for U12 and will have 19 for U13. Meaning one player does not dress. Not as bad as FVU or VDA which will roster 20-22 though.

17 for the top LS U12 boys team is a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Agree with most of this.

Club is losing RL from coaching which is a big loss as he was a conduit of looking for talent on the third teams and below. For years he found diamonds in the rough that eventually moved to top teams that other coaches wouldn’t take the time to scout on “lower fields”

2014 and 2015 have deep talent pools and have the top two teams set unless you are star coming from other clubs

2016 team is not good. They have two maybe three kids that would be on the top team of an age group in a normal year.

2017 team appeared weak as well. Not sure if this is a trend now of the quality coming out of the Academy.

Oh no, where is RL going?

MLSN2 and GA. RL is on life support in VA and will be garbage.

RL in this case is a person / coach with a growing family which he is (appropriately) prioritizing. Great guy and good coach who yes, was able to develop players and will be missed.

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Anonymous wrote:How many does Loudoun roster for u11?

13-14

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Just a heads-up — if you’re okay with a large roster, LS typically carries 16–17 players for rising U12. That means your kids will likely spend more time on the bench than on the field.

Flat out not true! Jeez, just make it up as you go along? Which teams exactly do you have this level of insight, my son plays for one you referenced so want to check your veracity

its true for top team. We had 17 this season for U12 and will have 19 for U13. Meaning one player does not dress. Not as bad as FVU or VDA which will roster 20-22 though.

17 for the top LS U12 boys team is a lie.

think they were referring to girls squad. Which is one of the best in area.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Just a heads-up — if you’re okay with a large roster, LS typically carries 16–17 players for rising U12. That means your kids will likely spend more time on the bench than on the field.

Flat out not true! Jeez, just make it up as you go along? Which teams exactly do you have this level of insight, my son plays for one you referenced so want to check your veracity

its true for top team. We had 17 this season for U12 and will have 19 for U13. Meaning one player does not dress. Not as bad as FVU or VDA which will roster 20-22 though.

17 for the top LS U12 boys team is a lie.

think they were referring to girls squad. Which is one of the best in area.

Are they returning though?

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Just a heads-up — if you’re okay with a large roster, LS typically carries 16–17 players for rising U12. That means your kids will likely spend more time on the bench than on the field.

Flat out not true! Jeez, just make it up as you go along? Which teams exactly do you have this level of insight, my son plays for one you referenced so want to check your veracity

its true for top team. We had 17 this season for U12 and will have 19 for U13. Meaning one player does not dress. Not as bad as FVU or VDA which will roster 20-22 though.

17 for the top LS U12 boys team is a lie.

think they were referring to girls squad. Which is one of the best in area.

Are they returning though?

This is the 2013 age group that is pre-ECNL Loudoun this season eligible for NVA next season. Yes, they are staying and moving to NVA’s first year at GA for that age group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts on direction of Boys u10 - u13 programs at Loudoun? Is the soccer actually any good or different from other nearby programs like VRSC?

I am biased with a son in that age group. The top (2?) teams are competitive in most age groups and getting better. The group does have strong coaches with DP, KL and FA all being very different but very effective. Losing SM to the younger academy kids hurt because he is fantastic for this age group too.

The rising u12s are way more talented than their VPSL record and have done quite well in high level tournaments. They’ve recently added 1 or 2 kids from Revolution whose team is struggling in EDP at that age group. The rising u11s are also very talented and playing up an age group in 2nd division of NCSL and doing well. Those two teams have been together a long time with very little turnover but some new talent added each year (1 maybe 2 kids) to address holes in the roster. Too soon to tell for rising u10. FA is a good coach and there is talent there. Sometimes his coaching style is better for older kids so I expect them to get better as they mature. New group just finishing their first year but solid.

Getting the same coach 2 years in a row does help because each has a different style approach and I’ve not seen a true “club philosophy” but consistency helps. They also actively promote players up to guest play and have seen kids fleet up to top team from 3rd team.

All that being said - if you aren’t on one of the top two teams - you won’t get the same level of coaching or commitment. But that’s every large club.

Agree with most if this but not what was written about FA. While DP, KL, SM and RL are top notch coaches for younger age groups and their development, FA is not someone who should be coaching younger players.

I have watched and heard from afar as he has torn down the talented 2015 team. My DC is on another field at the same time and we can see that his constant yelling has that group playing afraid and in fear of him - you can see it on the practice field and in their results. His style would much better align to older kids; it’s clear he knows soccer but his in your face approach does not translate to younger age groups. It makes for an interesting dynamic where if you are truly interested in development, playing for SM on the 2nd team is likely a better option then making the top team for those age groups.

[Anonymous]

Settle this debate over here.

1. Is LS dead as they say?
2. And is NVA destined for failure after next years even bigger stash of players leave for you know where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Settle this debate over here.

1. Is LS dead as they say?
2. And is NVA destined for failure after next years even bigger stash of players leave for you know where?

If NVA going to nationals in Seattle is failure then I have oceanfront property for sale in Arizona. VRSC admin seething

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Settle this debate over here.

1. Is LS dead as they say?
2. And is NVA destined for failure after next years even bigger stash of players leave for you know where?

Yes to both. Well known at this point.