Uh, seems like Trump's visit to the NABJ is not going well...

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. Identify as mixed race. But even addressing the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans is “grasping at straws.” Beyond weird.

You think this is the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans?

Did Niki or Vivek take a position on this pivotal issue in their campaigns? Has Vance addressed it since his wife is Indian-American? Heck, what's Trump's position on it?

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I think we can all agree that Republicans in this thread are showing just how weird their party is on this issue and so many others. They can’t help themselves.

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There is a whole lot of ink being spilled hoping to put wedges between Kamala Harris and her own family / communities. Blood is thicker than water, people. Her communities have known her for 60 years. Who thinks they're going to suddenly disown her over election year politics? Everyone knows who she is and where she came from. At least everyone who knew her name before 2020

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. Identify as mixed race. But even addressing the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans is “grasping at straws.” Beyond weird.

You think this is the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans?

Did Niki or Vivek take a position on this pivotal issue in their campaigns? Has Vance addressed it since his wife is Indian-American? Heck, what's Trump's position on it?

Yes, did you Cons ask Nikki Haley and Vivek (or heck, even Bobby Jindal) to address this? Should Vance address this since he's married to an Indian American and his kids are biracial? Or do you only try to make this an issue for Harris?

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. Identify as mixed race. But even addressing the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans is “grasping at straws.” Beyond weird.

You think this is the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans?

Did Niki or Vivek take a position on this pivotal issue in their campaigns? Has Vance addressed it since his wife is Indian-American? Heck, what's Trump's position on it?

Yes, did you Cons ask Nikki Haley and Vivek (or heck, even Bobby Jindal) to address this? Should Vance address this since he's married to an Indian American and his kids are biracial? Or do you only try to make this an issue for Harris?

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Never came up with them. Probably because the base doesn't care to wade into "Hindu stuff"

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

She went to Howard University, an HBCU and she joined AKA, a Pen-Hellenic Service Sorority.

I think she is well within her rights to define her experience and life the way she wants.

Do you think people are idiots? The university your bachelor's is from =/= your race or ethnicity.

While that is true, one who chooses to attend an HBCU and join a national service sorority that is rooted in its black roots is a clue to personal and cultural identity.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. Identify as mixed race. But even addressing the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans is “grasping at straws.” Beyond weird.

You think this is the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans?

Did Niki or Vivek take a position on this pivotal issue in their campaigns? Has Vance addressed it since his wife is Indian-American? Heck, what's Trump's position on it?

Yes, did you Cons ask Nikki Haley and Vivek (or heck, even Bobby Jindal) to address this? Should Vance address this since he's married to an Indian American and his kids are biracial? Or do you only try to make this an issue for Harris?

The MAGAs seem to think that black Americans will reject Harris because she's biracial so they want to highlight her Indian ancestry. Very weird and displays how little they understand about black Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

She went to Howard University, an HBCU and she joined AKA, a Pen-Hellenic Service Sorority.

I think she is well within her rights to define her experience and life the way she wants.

This is as idiotic as saying everyone with a Georgetown bachelor's degree is Catholic.

No, it isn't. I have a family member at GU and our family is not Catholic, but the majority of students there are, and if someone attends GU and then partakes in activities that affirm their faith, then it is a glimpse into how that person identifies themself.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. Identify as mixed race. But even addressing the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans is “grasping at straws.” Beyond weird.

You think this is the most pivotal political issue facing Indian Americans?

Did Niki or Vivek take a position on this pivotal issue in their campaigns? Has Vance addressed it since his wife is Indian-American? Heck, what's Trump's position on it?

Yes, did you Cons ask Nikki Haley and Vivek (or heck, even Bobby Jindal) to address this? Should Vance address this since he's married to an Indian American and his kids are biracial? Or do you only try to make this an issue for Harris?

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Never came up with them. Probably because the base doesn't care to wade into "Hindu stuff"

It's worse than that. There were racist attacks on Usha the moment they debuted as a couple and I'm not kidding that folks were saying, "Oh wait, he's married to a brown?" Like really, in 2024? Of course they don't. They are barely tolerated on the right and think that somehow the racists are going to let them in the club.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a whole lot of ink being spilled hoping to put wedges between Kamala Harris and her own family / communities. Blood is thicker than water, people. Her communities have known her for 60 years. Who thinks they're going to suddenly disown her over election year politics? Everyone knows who she is and where she came from. At least everyone who knew her name before 2020

I don’t think there is a black person alive who is going to decide Kamala Harris isn’t black because DT said so. He is trying to make her seem sneaky and untrustworthy to white people. We’ll see how many people fall for this. It seems sort of flat to me because it has no basis in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Grifters on the left, grifters on the right. All of these people are angle-playing con artists.

BoThSiDeS

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

She went to Howard University, an HBCU and she joined AKA, a Pen-Hellenic Service Sorority.

I think she is well within her rights to define her experience and life the way she wants.

So if she says she’s ADOS, that’s OK?

What is ADOS?

It stands for African descendant of slaves, and is an inside community term for differentiating between Black Americans who are descended from enslaved individuals and those who are descended from immigrants who were either never enslaved or who arrived after the civil war.

The thing is, vice president Harris has always been very clear that her experience is not the same as the ADOS experience. But her experience growing up in Oakland, and then studying at Howard, and ss an AKA, and then just existing in politics as a biracial, Black woman, has exposed to her to a pretty broad cross-section of the Black American experience.

There are also just a lot in families in the United States at this point who have both ADOS and Black immigrant heritage. It's not a wedge issue that is going to get any points for the GOP.

She did not grow up Oakland. She was born there, went to Midwest upper middle class neighborhoods with her professor parents when she was 2, returned to California to live in Berkeley when she was 6, then moved to Montreal when she was 12 (and attended an upper class, non-URM high school) until she was 18. Since her 6 years in Montreal equaled her time in Berkeley (a big difference from Oakland), you could just as validly say she grew up in Montreal. Stop the spin.

She was literally part of Berkeley program to bus Black students across town to integrate the schools. So she spent her first two years in Oakland, and then her entire and elementary school years being bussed from the majority black part of Berkeley to the majority white part in order to integrate the public school system. And somehow this is supposed to tell us that she does not understand the Black American experience?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a whole lot of ink being spilled hoping to put wedges between Kamala Harris and her own family / communities. Blood is thicker than water, people. Her communities have known her for 60 years. Who thinks they're going to suddenly disown her over election year politics? Everyone knows who she is and where she came from. At least everyone who knew her name before 2020

I don’t think there is a black person alive who is going to decide Kamala Harris isn’t black because DT said so. He is trying to make her seem sneaky and untrustworthy to white people. We’ll see how many people fall for this. It seems sort of flat to me because it has no basis in reality.

I do think that they think they may peel off some black voters with this line of attack. That's why they're trying it out. But without any black people in the room to provide some cultural competence, they are trying out messages that are in and of themselves racist.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?

I don't even know what anti-caste legislation is. Why should I care?

Why should you vote?

Anti-caste legislation is the only reason a person would vote? Weird.

Perchance people like you, who are too lazy to understand the Indian-American experience in the United States by googling “caste discrimination” — and do not care about it — should not vote.

Are you Indian-American? I am. This is the first I heard that “caste discrimination” is supposed to be part of my Indian-American experience. Please "Americansplain" me "caste discrimination” please.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?

I don't even know what anti-caste legislation is. Why should I care?

Why should you vote?

Anti-caste legislation is the only reason a person would vote? Weird.

Perchance people like you, who are too lazy to understand the Indian-American experience in the United States by googling “caste discrimination” — and do not care about it — should not vote.

Are you Indian-American? I am. This is the first I heard that “caste discrimination” is supposed to be part of my Indian-American experience. Please "Americansplain" me "caste discrimination” please.

+1 Another Indian-American here that would love to hear someone explain how "caste discrimination" is a part of my experience in this country. "Americansplain" is a perfect way of putting it.