Wisconsin Ave Development Project

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

You know there is already a bus garage in Friendship Heights, right? It's basically across the street from where the new one will be.

Except the new one will be an all-electric facility, so no fumes...a win-win.

Where do you think electricity comes from?

Good question. Maryland?

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

You know there is already a bus garage in Friendship Heights, right? It's basically across the street from where the new one will be.

Except the new one will be an all-electric facility, so no fumes...a win-win.

Where do you think electricity comes from?

Unlike the current gas-powered buses, which exhaust into Friendship Heights, the electricity that powers the new ones will not be generated there, so it's true that for local residents, there will be less pollution.

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Brilliant, so the electricity comes from Maryland still? Generated by fairies?

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Have you all heard about renewables and batteries? It is kind of the wave of the future.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you all heard about renewables and batteries? It is kind of the wave of the future.

Have you heard about our electrical grid? There's still a long way to go.

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The point isn't whether electric buses do or don't in some way rely on fossil fuels; someone earlier in the thread was saying it was bad that there's going to be a bus garage in FH, to which someone replied that (a) there already is a bus garage in FH and someone added that (b) at least the new buses won't themselves be adding air pollution directly to the neighborhood, unlike the ones park there now. If you want to go argue about why electric vehicles are bad because they don't actually completely eliminate fossil fuels, I'm sure people in the environment forum would be happy to engage in that debate with you.

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Where would be the fun in that?

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

Vibrant urban bus garages.

Maybe they’ll claim they’ll have affordable housing on top.

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Anonymous wrote:It sayeth the final word. As you will come to see

Actually the NIMBY lobby always loses. Always. Even when they win, they lose. The NIMBY lobby wants to stop change, but that's impossible.

The NIMBYs don’t have the mayor on their pocket. In other words, unlike the DC development lobby, they don’t have their money in the mayor’s pocket.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

Vibrant urban bus garages.

Maybe they’ll claim they’ll have affordable housing on top.

The plan calls for them to put a park and/or a soccer field on the roof, which I'm all for, it's about 1 1/2 blocks from my house and would be great to have a field there.

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Anonymous wrote:It sayeth the final word. As you will come to see

Actually the NIMBY lobby always loses. Always. Even when they win, they lose. The NIMBY lobby wants to stop change, but that's impossible.

The NIMBYs don’t have the mayor on their pocket. In other words, unlike the DC development lobby, they don’t have their money in the mayor’s pocket.

The development lobby hired a Trump-Manafort political flack to push their aggressive upzoning agenda in Ward 3.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

Vibrant urban bus garages.

Maybe they’ll claim they’ll have affordable housing on top.

The plan calls for them to put a park and/or a soccer field on the roof, which I'm all for, it's about 1 1/2 blocks from my house and would be great to have a field there.

What’s planned at the Lord & Taylor site? There’s a land marking application pending there which is likely to be approved. If so, it will still be possible to redevelop the site but not to raze the building.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

Vibrant urban bus garages.

Maybe they’ll claim they’ll have affordable housing on top.

The plan calls for them to put a park and/or a soccer field on the roof, which I'm all for, it's about 1 1/2 blocks from my house and would be great to have a field there.

What’s planned at the Lord & Taylor site? There’s a land marking application pending there which is likely to be approved. If so, it will still be possible to redevelop the site but not to raze the building.

LOL, no.

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Anonymous wrote:The argument is that NWDC neighborhoods are so appealing that we should densify them so more people can live there. What the proponents get wrong is what makes the neighborhoods appealing -- safe residential areas with green space and good schools. Of course, you can add some density to those areas, but there is a tipping point where the neighborhoods will no longer be desirable. I love the fact that there is a mix of condos, townhomes, and single family homes in my neighborhood, but it's a balance and if it were to tip over into primarily big buildings with condos, it would lose what makes it special. It is nice to have neighborhoods like Navy Yard for people who choose that lifestyle, but it's also ok for other neighborhoods to have a predominance of single family homes. Our city can have different types of neighborhoods.

What you mean by "the neighborhoods will no longer be desirable" is "it's not what I would want." However, you are not everyone, and land use should not be based on your - or my, or anyone's - personal preferences.

Sorry. Agree 100% with previous post. DC should avoid changing radically the character of NWDC. Those residents pay the bills in DC and are entirely why DC has done economically well until recently. Moreover, there are plenty of places in DC where larger condo or apartment buildings can be built. There simply is no need to push the balance to a tipping point.

How would adding housing on commercial corridors radically change the character of NWDC? No one is talking about putting massive apartment buildings in the side streets.

How would adding thousands of new people (units) to a 2-mile stretch change the character of the neighborhoods immediately adjacent to that corridor? Are you seriously asking this question?

Yes, I am. Do the apartment buildings on Connecticut near Woodley Park and Cleveland Park make the SFH blocks there worse somehow?

I am extremely familiar with the Connecticut Ave and the surrounding blocks. I'll give you an honest answer -- no, the SFH blocks east and west of Wisconsin Ave will be fine, enhanced even, if some 8 story multi-family new buildings are built. Note that Conn Ave buildings do not have commerce on the first floor (for the most part) that lures drivers -- especially gig drivers picking up -- all day and night. There's a huge differential in traffic when the first floor is a Tatte vs. a 100% residents-only access space.

But commerce needs to happen, because Metro. And climate change or something. Fine. No more residential lobbies of the time that comprise 97% of Connecticut Ave large apartment buildings.

The much bigger concern is the salivating REIT / developers looking deeper into the neighborhood and being rewarded with upzoning changes to the code, allowing, say, 4-story multifamily housing with 20 units where a Colonial currently sits. That's not in the current drawings -- I KNOW -- but it's where they're headed. The obvious hints are in their projected maps included in the link on Page 1 of this thread. Much future expansion opportunity there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to get those bus garages in FH. It's gonna be awesome!!

Vibrant urban bus garages.

Maybe they’ll claim they’ll have affordable housing on top.

The plan calls for them to put a park and/or a soccer field on the roof, which I'm all for, it's about 1 1/2 blocks from my house and would be great to have a field there.

What’s planned at the Lord & Taylor site? There’s a land marking application pending there which is likely to be approved. If so, it will still be possible to redevelop the site but not to raze the building.

I am glad..was sad to see mazza knocked down..same with L +T