How is FCPS teacher/staff shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:Staff shortage is pretty bad and there is no one to hire. We have a month and half a 4 person team.

I am the PP. We have two openings for a K-6 teacher and my principal has received no resumes. Not looking forward to doing sub plans again… 😢

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P. The teacher shortage is not just an FCPS problem, it is a statewide and nationwide issue. I know that there are caps for number of students per class, but is anyone in FCPS or VDOE considering an emergency waiver so that a school that is missing some teachers could redistribute the 75 students in 2 classes instead of 3? Two classes of 35 students is better than 2 classes of 25 students and one class with no teacher, isn't it? For the students and for the teachers?

School systems will need to get creative. In Virginia, a class is defined as "a grouping of students in which they regularly receive instruction in the Standards of Learning by one or more teachers."

If more than one teacher is assigned to a class for the purposes of instructing students, each teacher can count towards meeting the student-teacher ratio and any maximum class size requirements.

They also only have to be in compliance on September 30th and March 31st. In between, they can go over the maximum. If they are out of compliance on the 9/30 and 3/31 dates, they must have a plan to come back into compliance.

Where are these second teachers coming from? That's the point. There aren't enough teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:107 K-6 Homeroom positions listed. Looks like many students will have long term subs starting the year.

If your child has an actual teacher, will the spillover effects of having other kids in the school without a teacher affect them? I think my kid will have a teacher since I do a lot of volunteering, but wondering what else I should do to mitigate the situation for her.

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I'm a FCPS teacher. We have four 5th grade classes at my school. Only 2 of those classrooms had teachers this last school year. Only one of those rooms missing a teacher got a permanent sub and that didn't happen until after winter break.

When my kids were at PE, music, library, or art, instead of being able to use that time to return parent emails/calls and plan, I had to go into one of the other classrooms that was missing a teacher and help teach. Basically reinforce topics that students may not have fully understood under the sub. I don't know if this was standard practice at all FCPS classes without a permanent teacher, but the ones in my school without one had several quizzes each week. That's what gave us the guidelines of what the students may not have grasped from the sub.

If your kid doesn't get a permanent teacher this year, I'd fight tooth & nail to get them into a class with one. Kids in classrooms without teachers are being shortchanged. They are being promoted to the next grade wildly unprepared!

Yup. Different teacher. We did sub plans the majority of the year too and graded for a class without a teacher. It was really hard and overwhelming. In my opinion, the county should put all instructional coaches and resource teachers in classrooms so no kid has a sub. That should be the priority.

What is an instructional coach? What is a resource teacher? If a resource teacher is a specials teacher, I don't see how they can just cancel art and music classes.

Instructional Coaches are certified teachers who support instruction and teachers. They often look at data and help teams make decisions. Resource Teachers often pull reading/math groups all day. You are looking at 300 teachers not with kids all day that could help alleviate the issue by going back into the classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think things will be better. There will be too much. To do and not enough time. Admin will continue to expect more and the stress of trying to do it all and being dinged when you can’t will burn us out.

With all of the meetings and requirements before school starts and through September, I’ve been starting off recent school years already behind.

We just received an email listing 11 online trainings that need to be completed by the end of September. Hoo-ray.

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Yep. And two of the trainings I’m assigned are for systems/programs that I don’t even have access to. It’s stuff like this that wastes my time and shows a lack of respect for my time/my job. These little things add up and are what drive staff over the edge.

Are others expected to have 15 minute conferences with every family by mid-September? That’s another thing that puts me behind early.

You are whining about having to meet parents? 15 mins is nothing and means so much to families.

No. Not whining about meeting with families. The problem is all of the things that are required that take away from being prepared to actually teach an ES class. The issue is it is something that is done at the beginning of the year on top of trainings, meetings, open house, BTSN, etc.

15 minutes per family x 26 is 6.5 hours. With 2 of 5 planning periods a week already taken up by team meetings, 6.5 hours takes up the rest of two weeks of planning time at the beginning of the year.

It's literally 1 day, and it's a day without school. For gen-ed parents, we that's the only conference that we'll get all year. Now that report card comments are cut and paste, that's the only thing approaching genuine feedback that we get all year

Yeah but as a parent, I would rather my kids have a full dedicated teacher all year than a parent conference.

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Anonymous wrote:107 K-6 Homeroom positions listed. Looks like many students will have long term subs starting the year.

If your child has an actual teacher, will the spillover effects of having other kids in the school without a teacher affect them? I think my kid will have a teacher since I do a lot of volunteering, but wondering what else I should do to mitigate the situation for her.

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I'm a FCPS teacher. We have four 5th grade classes at my school. Only 2 of those classrooms had teachers this last school year. Only one of those rooms missing a teacher got a permanent sub and that didn't happen until after winter break.

When my kids were at PE, music, library, or art, instead of being able to use that time to return parent emails/calls and plan, I had to go into one of the other classrooms that was missing a teacher and help teach. Basically reinforce topics that students may not have fully understood under the sub. I don't know if this was standard practice at all FCPS classes without a permanent teacher, but the ones in my school without one had several quizzes each week. That's what gave us the guidelines of what the students may not have grasped from the sub.

If your kid doesn't get a permanent teacher this year, I'd fight tooth & nail to get them into a class with one. Kids in classrooms without teachers are being shortchanged. They are being promoted to the next grade wildly unprepared!

Yup. Different teacher. We did sub plans the majority of the year too and graded for a class without a teacher. It was really hard and overwhelming. In my opinion, the county should put all instructional coaches and resource teachers in classrooms so no kid has a sub. That should be the priority.

What is an instructional coach? What is a resource teacher? If a resource teacher is a specials teacher, I don't see how they can just cancel art and music classes.

Instructional Coaches are certified teachers who support instruction and teachers. They often look at data and help teams make decisions. Resource Teachers often pull reading/math groups all day. You are looking at 300 teachers not with kids all day that could help alleviate the issue by going back into the classroom.

Our school's two resource teachers are with kids all day. If you get rid of them, you are going to get sued for not meeting IEP needs

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Anonymous wrote:107 K-6 Homeroom positions listed. Looks like many students will have long term subs starting the year.

If your child has an actual teacher, will the spillover effects of having other kids in the school without a teacher affect them? I think my kid will have a teacher since I do a lot of volunteering, but wondering what else I should do to mitigate the situation for her.

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I'm a FCPS teacher. We have four 5th grade classes at my school. Only 2 of those classrooms had teachers this last school year. Only one of those rooms missing a teacher got a permanent sub and that didn't happen until after winter break.

When my kids were at PE, music, library, or art, instead of being able to use that time to return parent emails/calls and plan, I had to go into one of the other classrooms that was missing a teacher and help teach. Basically reinforce topics that students may not have fully understood under the sub. I don't know if this was standard practice at all FCPS classes without a permanent teacher, but the ones in my school without one had several quizzes each week. That's what gave us the guidelines of what the students may not have grasped from the sub.

If your kid doesn't get a permanent teacher this year, I'd fight tooth & nail to get them into a class with one. Kids in classrooms without teachers are being shortchanged. They are being promoted to the next grade wildly unprepared!

Yup. Different teacher. We did sub plans the majority of the year too and graded for a class without a teacher. It was really hard and overwhelming. In my opinion, the county should put all instructional coaches and resource teachers in classrooms so no kid has a sub. That should be the priority.

What is an instructional coach? What is a resource teacher? If a resource teacher is a specials teacher, I don't see how they can just cancel art and music classes.

Instructional Coaches are certified teachers who support instruction and teachers. They often look at data and help teams make decisions. Resource Teachers often pull reading/math groups all day. You are looking at 300 teachers not with kids all day that could help alleviate the issue by going back into the classroom.

Our school's two resource teachers are with kids all day. If you get rid of them, you are going to get sued for not meeting IEP needs

I am not talking about SPED teachers. I am talking about resource teachers who pull reading/math groups for non IEP kids. They do exist!!

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Anonymous wrote:107 K-6 Homeroom positions listed. Looks like many students will have long term subs starting the year.

If your child has an actual teacher, will the spillover effects of having other kids in the school without a teacher affect them? I think my kid will have a teacher since I do a lot of volunteering, but wondering what else I should do to mitigate the situation for her.

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I'm a FCPS teacher. We have four 5th grade classes at my school. Only 2 of those classrooms had teachers this last school year. Only one of those rooms missing a teacher got a permanent sub and that didn't happen until after winter break.

When my kids were at PE, music, library, or art, instead of being able to use that time to return parent emails/calls and plan, I had to go into one of the other classrooms that was missing a teacher and help teach. Basically reinforce topics that students may not have fully understood under the sub. I don't know if this was standard practice at all FCPS classes without a permanent teacher, but the ones in my school without one had several quizzes each week. That's what gave us the guidelines of what the students may not have grasped from the sub.

If your kid doesn't get a permanent teacher this year, I'd fight tooth & nail to get them into a class with one. Kids in classrooms without teachers are being shortchanged. They are being promoted to the next grade wildly unprepared!

Yup. Different teacher. We did sub plans the majority of the year too and graded for a class without a teacher. It was really hard and overwhelming. In my opinion, the county should put all instructional coaches and resource teachers in classrooms so no kid has a sub. That should be the priority.

What is an instructional coach? What is a resource teacher? If a resource teacher is a specials teacher, I don't see how they can just cancel art and music classes.

Instructional Coaches are certified teachers who support instruction and teachers. They often look at data and help teams make decisions. Resource Teachers often pull reading/math groups all day. You are looking at 300 teachers not with kids all day that could help alleviate the issue by going back into the classroom.

Our school's two resource teachers are with kids all day. If you get rid of them, you are going to get sued for not meeting IEP needs

+1 Resource teachers are very hands-on and needed to help with the shortage of special education teachers and lighten the load of the other teachers. Instructional coaches could go back into the classroom but there's not that many of them to make a difference and they do a lot of the data crunching that other teachers often complain about having to do. I think instructional coaches could reasonably go to classes part-time and then do all the data work for their schools and it would work out okay. Or they could be tasked as close mentors/class supports for all the long-term subs who are teaching instead of the other full-time teachers.

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Most of these resource teachers work in those positions because they wanted to get out of the classroom. They won't last long if they are forced back in.

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Anonymous wrote:107 K-6 Homeroom positions listed. Looks like many students will have long term subs starting the year.

If your child has an actual teacher, will the spillover effects of having other kids in the school without a teacher affect them? I think my kid will have a teacher since I do a lot of volunteering, but wondering what else I should do to mitigate the situation for her.

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I'm a FCPS teacher. We have four 5th grade classes at my school. Only 2 of those classrooms had teachers this last school year. Only one of those rooms missing a teacher got a permanent sub and that didn't happen until after winter break.

When my kids were at PE, music, library, or art, instead of being able to use that time to return parent emails/calls and plan, I had to go into one of the other classrooms that was missing a teacher and help teach. Basically reinforce topics that students may not have fully understood under the sub. I don't know if this was standard practice at all FCPS classes without a permanent teacher, but the ones in my school without one had several quizzes each week. That's what gave us the guidelines of what the students may not have grasped from the sub.

If your kid doesn't get a permanent teacher this year, I'd fight tooth & nail to get them into a class with one. Kids in classrooms without teachers are being shortchanged. They are being promoted to the next grade wildly unprepared!

Yup. Different teacher. We did sub plans the majority of the year too and graded for a class without a teacher. It was really hard and overwhelming. In my opinion, the county should put all instructional coaches and resource teachers in classrooms so no kid has a sub. That should be the priority.

What is an instructional coach? What is a resource teacher? If a resource teacher is a specials teacher, I don't see how they can just cancel art and music classes.

Instructional Coaches are certified teachers who support instruction and teachers. They often look at data and help teams make decisions. Resource Teachers often pull reading/math groups all day. You are looking at 300 teachers not with kids all day that could help alleviate the issue by going back into the classroom.

Our school's two resource teachers are with kids all day. If you get rid of them, you are going to get sued for not meeting IEP needs

+1 Resource teachers are very hands-on and needed to help with the shortage of special education teachers and lighten the load of the other teachers. Instructional coaches could go back into the classroom but there's not that many of them to make a difference and they do a lot of the data crunching that other teachers often complain about having to do. I think instructional coaches could reasonably go to classes part-time and then do all the data work for their schools and it would work out okay. Or they could be tasked as close mentors/class supports for all the long-term subs who are teaching instead of the other full-time teachers.

There are over 100 instructional coaches in FCPS. The priority should always be the kids. If staffing is an issue, then instructional coaches should be cut. The county needs to prioritize.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of these resource teachers work in those positions because they wanted to get out of the classroom. They won't last long if they are forced back in.

Yes, but if we add more to teachers plates- sub plans and teaching for another class and not getting compensated- those teachers will leave too.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think things will be better. There will be too much. To do and not enough time. Admin will continue to expect more and the stress of trying to do it all and being dinged when you can’t will burn us out.

With all of the meetings and requirements before school starts and through September, I’ve been starting off recent school years already behind.

We just received an email listing 11 online trainings that need to be completed by the end of September. Hoo-ray.

2 Teachers

Yep. And two of the trainings I’m assigned are for systems/programs that I don’t even have access to. It’s stuff like this that wastes my time and shows a lack of respect for my time/my job. These little things add up and are what drive staff over the edge.

Are others expected to have 15 minute conferences with every family by mid-September? That’s another thing that puts me behind early.

You are whining about having to meet parents? 15 mins is nothing and means so much to families.

No. Not whining about meeting with families. The problem is all of the things that are required that take away from being prepared to actually teach an ES class. The issue is it is something that is done at the beginning of the year on top of trainings, meetings, open house, BTSN, etc.

15 minutes per family x 26 is 6.5 hours. With 2 of 5 planning periods a week already taken up by team meetings, 6.5 hours takes up the rest of two weeks of planning time at the beginning of the year.

It's literally 1 day, and it's a day without school. For gen-ed parents, we that's the only conference that we'll get all year. Now that report card comments are cut and paste, that's the only thing approaching genuine feedback that we get all year

On which 1 day without school do you think these beginning of year conferences should be held? Teachers have six work days before students start. Let’s be generous and say 3 of them can be used to prepare, but likely its 2. Should one of those days be used?

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Anonymous wrote:107 K-6 Homeroom positions listed. Looks like many students will have long term subs starting the year.

If your child has an actual teacher, will the spillover effects of having other kids in the school without a teacher affect them? I think my kid will have a teacher since I do a lot of volunteering, but wondering what else I should do to mitigate the situation for her.

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I'm a FCPS teacher. We have four 5th grade classes at my school. Only 2 of those classrooms had teachers this last school year. Only one of those rooms missing a teacher got a permanent sub and that didn't happen until after winter break.

When my kids were at PE, music, library, or art, instead of being able to use that time to return parent emails/calls and plan, I had to go into one of the other classrooms that was missing a teacher and help teach. Basically reinforce topics that students may not have fully understood under the sub. I don't know if this was standard practice at all FCPS classes without a permanent teacher, but the ones in my school without one had several quizzes each week. That's what gave us the guidelines of what the students may not have grasped from the sub.

If your kid doesn't get a permanent teacher this year, I'd fight tooth & nail to get them into a class with one. Kids in classrooms without teachers are being shortchanged. They are being promoted to the next grade wildly unprepared!

Teachers who gave up planning to cover other classes got extra pay. How much was it?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think things will be better. There will be too much. To do and not enough time. Admin will continue to expect more and the stress of trying to do it all and being dinged when you can’t will burn us out.

With all of the meetings and requirements before school starts and through September, I’ve been starting off recent school years already behind.

We just received an email listing 11 online trainings that need to be completed by the end of September. Hoo-ray.

2 Teachers

Yep. And two of the trainings I’m assigned are for systems/programs that I don’t even have access to. It’s stuff like this that wastes my time and shows a lack of respect for my time/my job. These little things add up and are what drive staff over the edge.

Are others expected to have 15 minute conferences with every family by mid-September? That’s another thing that puts me behind early.

You are whining about having to meet parents? 15 mins is nothing and means so much to families.

No. Not whining about meeting with families. The problem is all of the things that are required that take away from being prepared to actually teach an ES class. The issue is it is something that is done at the beginning of the year on top of trainings, meetings, open house, BTSN, etc.

15 minutes per family x 26 is 6.5 hours. With 2 of 5 planning periods a week already taken up by team meetings, 6.5 hours takes up the rest of two weeks of planning time at the beginning of the year.

It's literally 1 day, and it's a day without school. For gen-ed parents, we that's the only conference that we'll get all year. Now that report card comments are cut and paste, that's the only thing approaching genuine feedback that we get all year

On which 1 day without school do you think these beginning of year conferences should be held? Teachers have six work days before students start. Let’s be generous and say 3 of them can be used to prepare, but likely its 2. Should one of those days be used?

Parent teacher conferences don't happen in August before students start. Are you thinking of something else?

FWIW, I think APS has a day scheduled where students have no school, for conferences. But FCPS doesn't do it that way.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think things will be better. There will be too much. To do and not enough time. Admin will continue to expect more and the stress of trying to do it all and being dinged when you can’t will burn us out.

With all of the meetings and requirements before school starts and through September, I’ve been starting off recent school years already behind.

We just received an email listing 11 online trainings that need to be completed by the end of September. Hoo-ray.

2 Teachers

Yep. And two of the trainings I’m assigned are for systems/programs that I don’t even have access to. It’s stuff like this that wastes my time and shows a lack of respect for my time/my job. These little things add up and are what drive staff over the edge.

Are others expected to have 15 minute conferences with every family by mid-September? That’s another thing that puts me behind early.

You are whining about having to meet parents? 15 mins is nothing and means so much to families.

No. Not whining about meeting with families. The problem is all of the things that are required that take away from being prepared to actually teach an ES class. The issue is it is something that is done at the beginning of the year on top of trainings, meetings, open house, BTSN, etc.

15 minutes per family x 26 is 6.5 hours. With 2 of 5 planning periods a week already taken up by team meetings, 6.5 hours takes up the rest of two weeks of planning time at the beginning of the year.

It's literally 1 day, and it's a day without school. For gen-ed parents, we that's the only conference that we'll get all year. Now that report card comments are cut and paste, that's the only thing approaching genuine feedback that we get all year

On which 1 day without school do you think these beginning of year conferences should be held? Teachers have six work days before students start. Let’s be generous and say 3 of them can be used to prepare, but likely its 2. Should one of those days be used?

Parent teacher conferences don't happen in August before students start. Are you thinking of something else?

FWIW, I think APS has a day scheduled where students have no school, for conferences. But FCPS doesn't do it that way.

No. Read my previous post. We have to conference with every family by mid-September.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think things will be better. There will be too much. To do and not enough time. Admin will continue to expect more and the stress of trying to do it all and being dinged when you can’t will burn us out.

With all of the meetings and requirements before school starts and through September, I’ve been starting off recent school years already behind.

We just received an email listing 11 online trainings that need to be completed by the end of September. Hoo-ray.

2 Teachers

Yep. And two of the trainings I’m assigned are for systems/programs that I don’t even have access to. It’s stuff like this that wastes my time and shows a lack of respect for my time/my job. These little things add up and are what drive staff over the edge.

Are others expected to have 15 minute conferences with every family by mid-September? That’s another thing that puts me behind early.

You are whining about having to meet parents? 15 mins is nothing and means so much to families.

No. Not whining about meeting with families. The problem is all of the things that are required that take away from being prepared to actually teach an ES class. The issue is it is something that is done at the beginning of the year on top of trainings, meetings, open house, BTSN, etc.

15 minutes per family x 26 is 6.5 hours. With 2 of 5 planning periods a week already taken up by team meetings, 6.5 hours takes up the rest of two weeks of planning time at the beginning of the year.

It's literally 1 day, and it's a day without school. For gen-ed parents, we that's the only conference that we'll get all year. Now that report card comments are cut and paste, that's the only thing approaching genuine feedback that we get all year

On which 1 day without school do you think these beginning of year conferences should be held? Teachers have six work days before students start. Let’s be generous and say 3 of them can be used to prepare, but likely its 2. Should one of those days be used?

Parent teacher conferences don't happen in August before students start. Are you thinking of something else?

FWIW, I think APS has a day scheduled where students have no school, for conferences. But FCPS doesn't do it that way.

No. Read my previous post. We have to conference with every family by mid-September.

If your principal requires parent teacher conferences before the school year has started, before students have started school, as a parent, I would be furious.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think things will be better. There will be too much. To do and not enough time. Admin will continue to expect more and the stress of trying to do it all and being dinged when you can’t will burn us out.

With all of the meetings and requirements before school starts and through September, I’ve been starting off recent school years already behind.

We just received an email listing 11 online trainings that need to be completed by the end of September. Hoo-ray.

2 Teachers

Yep. And two of the trainings I’m assigned are for systems/programs that I don’t even have access to. It’s stuff like this that wastes my time and shows a lack of respect for my time/my job. These little things add up and are what drive staff over the edge.

Are others expected to have 15 minute conferences with every family by mid-September? That’s another thing that puts me behind early.

You are whining about having to meet parents? 15 mins is nothing and means so much to families.

No. Not whining about meeting with families. The problem is all of the things that are required that take away from being prepared to actually teach an ES class. The issue is it is something that is done at the beginning of the year on top of trainings, meetings, open house, BTSN, etc.

15 minutes per family x 26 is 6.5 hours. With 2 of 5 planning periods a week already taken up by team meetings, 6.5 hours takes up the rest of two weeks of planning time at the beginning of the year.

It's literally 1 day, and it's a day without school. For gen-ed parents, we that's the only conference that we'll get all year. Now that report card comments are cut and paste, that's the only thing approaching genuine feedback that we get all year

On which 1 day without school do you think these beginning of year conferences should be held? Teachers have six work days before students start. Let’s be generous and say 3 of them can be used to prepare, but likely its 2. Should one of those days be used?

Parent teacher conferences don't happen in August before students start. Are you thinking of something else?

FWIW, I think APS has a day scheduled where students have no school, for conferences. But FCPS doesn't do it that way.

No. Read my previous post. We have to conference with every family by mid-September.

If your principal requires parent teacher conferences before the school year has started, before students have started school, as a parent, I would be furious.

There’s no “If”. The PPs think it’s “whining” and that it’s easy to do because we don’t have school that week, but I don’t think they realize how much has to be done and how little amount of time during the work day is provided to get it done. If they aren’t held before the students arrive then they get pushed to planning time after school starts and there isn’t much of that available. It puts us behind in being prepared right off the bat.