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+1 That poster is completely fact-impervious. It’s bizarre. |
Or Penn once again will be found at fault, which is the normal course of action for schools like Penn. |
Post a fact… have not seen any yet. |
I didn’t mean average in the academic sense. Rather: financially. I literally know people who have served on the Rhodes selection committee among other similar prestigious scholarship/fellowship programs domestically and abroad. The essays are literally creative writing exercises meant to convey how hard you’ve had it and how selfless you have been after pulling yourself up by your bootstraps to do something amazing. Much of it is embellished. I mean, everyone can’t have been born on a battlefield to a one-armed teenager and raised in a barn yet somehow earn perfect test scores while inventing the cure for cancer. The American approach to such essays is to demonstrate you’ve had it hard so the review committee feels pity followed by interest. FTR, this sort of essay doesn’t work for such scholarships/fellowships abroad. Stiff upper lip and all that. They simply look at what you’ve achieved academically followed by what you’ve done. And, if your story sounds far fetched, it is recognized as creative writing. Bottom line: none of your kids in Dcumlandia have a chance when selection committees prioritize kids born in abject poverty reared by terrible parents. |
lol. That's a mansion in St Louis. |
No, the confirmation bias is yours. "Bouncing around throughout my life" does not mean one year at 17yo. Saying you have multiple broken bones when you didn't is a lie. |
My bet is her and/or her mom have a google alert on their name(s). |
Just stop. |
You seem fundamentally and profoundly unclear on how litigation works. To help you with basics: it is up to Fierceton to prove that she was retaliated against in a court of law. Your ranting here is what is irrelevant. |
Yes a year can be throughout my life. And she did not say “broken bones” she said “I was broken”. Keep trying to twist her words. |
Interesting. I know of one Rhodes winner who grew up in a stable middle class home with two high school teacher parents. Now I'm wondering how "creative" their essays were, if you catch my drift. And update: 20 years later they're a professional failure. |
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The burden of proof is on her, NOT UPenn.
IMO, her retaliation claim is unconvincing. The law suit and her role in it began before she was named a Rhodes Scholar. If she had been named a Rhodes Scholar,THEN became involved in a suit, and after that Penn began an investigation of the statements made in her Rhodes application, then maybe it could be argued that she has a colorable claim that Penn's actions were motivated by retaliation. But here, she was named a Rhodes Scholar AFTER she became involved. I think it's apparent that it was the anonymous email and the multiple phone calls saying she misrepresented her background which prompted Penn's actions. Moreover, it's the Rhodes Trust which had the power to withhold the scholarship, not Penn. Nothing suggests that Penn told the Rhodes Trust about the law suit and nothing suggests that the law suit played any role in the Trust's actions. Moreover, again Penn didn't revoke her Rhodes. The Rhodes Trust did. It's not even clear that it's Penn's notification to the Rhodes Trust which prompted the Trust's investigation. The Trust received the same anonymous email UPenn did. That might have been enough for the Trust to investigate. Rather than responding to the Trust's report, she chose to withdraw from the proceedings. I think she blew any claim she had by doing that. It's analogous to resigning from a job when you're notified that there's an investigation as to whether you embezzled money from the company. You can't then turn around and claim wrongful termination. |
FTR: I think the race/poverty porn essay thing is relatively new within the last couple decades. I know some Rhodes Scholars who are north of 50, and they came from UMC/affluent backgrounds. |
| It is PENNs burden to prove she lied. They said publically she lied. They told Rhodes scholarship committee she lied. If they can’t prove she lied it slander. |
No, it is not meant to be a creative writing essay and it is not supposed to be embellished. Pg 70: According to Rhodes: “Institutions or students who submit work that isn’t an honest reflection of the applicant will damage their credibility and undermine their chance (or that of their applicants) to receive a Scholarship. We disqualify applicants when we discover inaccurate or materially exaggerated claims; we will do the same if we learn of violations of our personal statement rules.” And from the application itself: https://www.rhodeshouse.ox.ac.uk/media/46018/information-for-candidates-usa.pdf "Your personal statement should be wholly accurate and a fair representation of your story, written in your own words from your own perspective. Material misrepresentation will result in disqualification of an application and, where appropriate, the rescinding of a scholarship. It should be entirely your own work, with no assistance received. Through the online application form you will be asked to confirm that the entered / uploaded personal statement is accurate, is your own work and that no external help was given in its creation or editing." |