The real rape culture in the USA....

[Anonymous]

Female teachers and underage boys.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3000869/Married-gym-teacher-32-accused-repeatedly-having-sex-14-year-old-student.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3002412/Married-teacher-27-arrested-engaging-sex-act-17-year-old-student-car-told-school-rumored-relationship.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999575/Married-Catholic-school-teacher-30-sobs-s-sentenced-15-years-prison-having-sex-15-year-old-student.html

What is up with all these female child molesters?

I don't even get the attraction to teenage boys. They are immature and awkward.

[Anonymous]

About 15 years ago, I said to my mother, why is it usually the male teacher and the student but almost never the other way around. She said, you wait. The reality is that with women earning more money and having more power, the dynamics have changed. Also, our society is a lot more sexual than it was in the 1990s. These women are neurotic and predatory.

[Anonymous]

Oh, this has been going on for a very long time - it has nothing to do with changing attitudes about sex - hilarious someone would mention the 90s...the couple I know like this got together in the 50s...he was the principal, and she was only 16...but they waited until she graduated to make it public...got married and stayed married until he died.

What has changed is that our society has become much less tolerant of statutory rape - mostly with prosecutions of men. Increasingly the glaring difference in how the public feels about "innocent girls" and "horndog stud boys" has been hard to square with the harsh legal environment. Basically, what happened before is nobody filed charges or cared, especially if it was a younger boy - he was held up as studly, not a victim. That is the culture change.

I don't think sexual attraction to post-pubescent humans is weird (I do think it's weird with pre-pubescent children). However, I think anytime you have an adult - whether or not they are in a position of power/authority (like these teachers) - choosing to have a relationship with someone who is that much less mature, it's a sign of serious issues in the older person.

I was a male teacher; I had cute, sexy and wildly inappropriate female students who I think had crushes on me - when I say wildly inappropriate, I'm thinking of the flirting and the one who tried to pull of my wedding ring (this was in the prehistoric 90s BTW). It's just not that hard to say no, and honestly: if you need to get your validation from someone like that...you really need a shrink.

But nobody should kid themselves this is some new harbinger of the apocalypse via Sodom & Gommorrah. This kind of thing has been going on forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, this has been going on for a very long time - it has nothing to do with changing attitudes about sex - hilarious someone would mention the 90s...the couple I know like this got together in the 50s...he was the principal, and she was only 16...but they waited until she graduated to make it public...got married and stayed married until he died.

What has changed is that our society has become much less tolerant of statutory rape - mostly with prosecutions of men. Increasingly the glaring difference in how the public feels about "innocent girls" and "horndog stud boys" has been hard to square with the harsh legal environment. Basically, what happened before is nobody filed charges or cared, especially if it was a younger boy - he was held up as studly, not a victim. That is the culture change.

I don't think sexual attraction to post-pubescent humans is weird (I do think it's weird with pre-pubescent children). However, I think anytime you have an adult - whether or not they are in a position of power/authority (like these teachers) - choosing to have a relationship with someone who is that much less mature, it's a sign of serious issues in the older person.

I was a male teacher; I had cute, sexy and wildly inappropriate female students who I think had crushes on me - when I say wildly inappropriate, I'm thinking of the flirting and the one who tried to pull of my wedding ring (this was in the prehistoric 90s BTW). It's just not that hard to say no, and honestly: if you need to get your validation from someone like that...you really need a shrink.

But nobody should kid themselves this is some new harbinger of the apocalypse via Sodom & Gommorrah. This kind of thing has been going on forever.

Great analysis, and I agree. If you look at some of the scandals where there has been a focus on sex between celebrities and underage people, it becomes apparent that having sex with teenagers was much more accepted in the 60s and 70s. The fact that it apparently took some doing to get someone to care about an adult male and an underage female means that it would be almost impossible for someone to get worked up about an adult female and an underage male. But, as the tolerance went down for one, increasingly the tolerance has gone down for the other.

[Anonymous]

“Many people mistakenly believe that harassment is limited to females,” says Roberta Chinsky Matuson, a human resource expert. “The truth is that this type of experience is just as damaging to men.”
While the number of sexual harassment cases overall has consistently declined in the past few years, “sexual harassment filings by men have consistently increased, doubling over 15 years,” says David Grinberg, a spokesman for the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, or EEOC.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19536167/ns/business-careers/t/male-sexual-harassment-not-joke/#.VQscn4b3arU

[Anonymous]

Maybe it's b/c women get light sentences for this sort of crimes?

Many people have noted the stark difference in the sentences male and female sex offenders receive. Female offenders tend to walk away with probation, time served, or very low jail sentences compared to male offenders. Some have denied this bias, others have ignored, and others have rationalized it as extension of “Patriarchy.”

Ironically, members of the latter group recently published a study about that issue. The study Sex-Based Sentencing: Sentencing Discrepancies Between Male and Female Sex Offenders published in Feminist Criminology confirms that female offenders do indeed receive lesser sentences than male offenders do.

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/feminist-researchers-find-female-sex-offenders-get-slaps-on-the-wrist/

[Anonymous]

The film Summer of '42 was considered a "coming of age" film. In the 1980s, there were numerous movies with teen boys trying to lose it, like in Risky Business.

[Anonymous]

I think it's looked as more consensual, less abhorrent. For instance, the priests were fiercely legally pursued. I am a woman was abused by a male math teacher when I was in high school, and I can't imagine that the school system would allow me to collect damages this far out compared to the penalties assessed to the Catholic Church. I told a school counselor at the time and nothing was done. This was MCPS system BTW in the 80's. The situation was that I was competing and spent a lot of alone time, after school time and my parents allowed this teacher to drive me to competition.

[Anonymous]

It's hard to see these young men as being abused -- especially with some of these attractive young teachers -- but we seem to love victim stories these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's hard to see these young men as being abused -- especially with some of these attractive young teachers -- but we seem to love victim stories these days.

I am talking about the hetero stuff of course.

[Anonymous]

Christ - could it be that these stories make good press? People like to click on these types of stories to see whether the teachers were attractive. Blond teachers in their twenties make especially good press. No one wants to read about the middle aged, balding, overweight male teacher getting it on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's hard to see these young men as being abused -- especially with some of these attractive young teachers -- but we seem to love victim stories these days.

Victim-blame much?

He enjoyed it? He wanted it? He had it coming? One can only imagine the screams of rage in DCUM if anyone applied this logic to a female rape victim.

Time to start teaching "attractive young teachers" not to rape.

[Anonymous]

When the majority of rape victims are young men assaulted by older female authority figures, I will agree that that's "the real rape culture." That's not right now, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's hard to see these young men as being abused -- especially with some of these attractive young teachers -- but we seem to love victim stories these days.

Victim-blame much?

He enjoyed it? He wanted it? He had it coming? One can only imagine the screams of rage in DCUM if anyone applied this logic to a female rape victim.

Time to start teaching "attractive young teachers" not to rape.

But that logic is applied to young wom, all the time, here and elsewhere.

The issue is the difference in sexualization between males and females. Boys who have sexual encounters are socialized to feel proud. When a young msn has a sexual encounter with an older woman, he's a stud, a baller, etc. Young women are not supposed to feel proud of their sexual experiences. Maybe more boys would come forward as survivors of sexual assault if we stopped teaching them that they should always want sex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's b/c women get light sentences for this sort of crimes?

Many people have noted the stark difference in the sentences male and female sex offenders receive. Female offenders tend to walk away with probation, time served, or very low jail sentences compared to male offenders. Some have denied this bias, others have ignored, and others have rationalized it as extension of “Patriarchy.”

Ironically, members of the latter group recently published a study about that issue. The study Sex-Based Sentencing: Sentencing Discrepancies Between Male and Female Sex Offenders published in Feminist Criminology confirms that female offenders do indeed receive lesser sentences than male offenders do.

https://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/feminist-researchers-find-female-sex-offenders-get-slaps-on-the-wrist/

Women get light sentences for these crimes because of attitudes like this:

It's hard to see these young men as being abused -- especially with some of these attractive young teachers -- but we seem to love victim stories these days.