Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:These uneducated bozos are grifters and are having money problems. Without a crystal ball just did a deep dive into the five liens they have from companies working on their Westchester property.

They bought the property for 12 million in 2018 and because they weren’t basically tearing it down from the ground up and putting in a pool house and a bunch of other things, they had to go get approval from planning boards, which took a few years. Apparently there’s some historical significance to the property. In 2023 they started major construction, eventually enlisting five different companies to do various work. All those companies were paid until December 2025. Now all five companies have liens saying they have not been paid since December.

These morons are no different than the people who win the lottery. They don’t know how to manage their money and they spent like the money train from acting was going to last forever. Wrexham is 19 million in the red, aviation is not doing that well either. None of Blakes companies made money. And they have not had acting work in the last couple years. Ryan invested a bunch of his money and another big venture that was supposed to go public this year and is not because of all the drama surrounding a lawsuit.

Then they get in to a lawsuit that’s going to cost them tens of millions of dollars.

And yet they are much richer than you are, somehow. If they are morons, what does that make you, pray tell?

I’ve been able to pay all my bills since December so no I don’t think they are richer than me. Actually think their wealth has been widely overblown. I don’t think it’s anywhere near the hundreds of millions. So no, I don’t think they are worth that much more than me but either way, I’m not living through a PR and legal nightmare so there’s that.

If you actually do not think that Ryan Reynolds is "worth that much more" than you, a random internet poster, then perhaps we shouldn't trust your commentary on anything because that's absurd. Whatever he spent on this litigation and whatever his current career prospects, he is and will always be much wealthier than any of us posting here. Don't be foolish.

DP. You are foolish for many things. Signed, a random internet poster most likely worth more if not the same as Reynolds. And before you assume, self-made. I use my wealth to help others and don't punch down. I think that pushes most people to the worth more category regardless of net wealth though.

Do you let your kids add guac?

One doesn't like guac and the other prefers to make his own.

[Anonymous]

https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz/article-15831191/blake-lively-ryan-reynolds-compound-debt-unpaid-workers.html

Daily mail article on the $2 million in unpaid contracting bills. It’s behind a paywall, but if you go to Reddit, you can read the full article.

One of the funniest quotes is how they wanted to do a renovation that “ honors the history and the people” while asking to put in a substantial pool house and a gym.

Howling.

[Anonymous]

Lively and Reynolds:

- brought this lawsuit, dragged it on for 18 months, spent tens of millions of dollars doing it
- had their personal communications to friends released. Compromised trust of other celebrities who had their texts released.
- had embarrassing facts about Blake’s business failures published. Including horrific drop in sales of her beauty line and drinks products. Admitted Betty buzz is dissolving and focus is getting rid of whatever stock they have through Amazon.
- asked for $300 million in damages. Got zero dollars.
- safe to say they wanted an NDA abd didn’t get one. They did not want Justin’s lawyers parading around talking to creators and podcasts. They are doing that. Reports are he might have a tell all in the works, which he will profit immensely from, at their expense, and more podcast, deep dives, and weeks of bad press for them.

Please tell me again how they won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lively and Reynolds:

- brought this lawsuit, dragged it on for 18 months, spent tens of millions of dollars doing it
- had their personal communications to friends released. Compromised trust of other celebrities who had their texts released.
- had embarrassing facts about Blake’s business failures published. Including horrific drop in sales of her beauty line and drinks products. Admitted Betty buzz is dissolving and focus is getting rid of whatever stock they have through Amazon.
- asked for $300 million in damages. Got zero dollars.
- safe to say they wanted an NDA abd didn’t get one. They did not want Justin’s lawyers parading around talking to creators and podcasts. They are doing that. Reports are he might have a tell all in the works, which he will profit immensely from, at their expense, and more podcast, deep dives, and weeks of bad press for them.

Please tell me again how they won.

I don't think they won, but I also don't think Baldoni or Wayfarer won. They:

- Admitted in writing that Lively's claims "deserved to be heard."
- Had their entire countersuit dismissed by the judge for failure to articulate even a single valid claim against Blake, Ryan, the NYT, or Sloane. Asked for $400 million in damages. Got zero dollars. Have zero opportunity to recover attorneys fees from any of the litigation and they have given up their chance to appeal.
- Had texts and emails detailing how Wayfarer and their public relations teams sought to "bury" Lively widely publicized, as well as many embarrassing texts where, for instance, Abel is revealed to mock Baldoni for some of the same behavior Blake ultimately sues him for as well as other tone deaf and embarrassing behavior, like wanting to go on a quack doctor's show to blame his behavior on his neurodivergence, or going to Mexico to get a sketchy stem cell infusion for free that ultimately landed him in the hospital
- Baldoni was regularly dragged in the press for being whiny, weird, and vindictive, mocked with Onion headlines like "Justin Baldoni sues Justin Baldoni for getting him into this mess"
- A myriad of women have come forward to express displeasure of working with Baldoni and Heath, including but not limited to: their longtime podcast cohost, two other actresses on IEWU, another director who had worked with them prior to IEWU, and the independent producer they hired for the film
- Sarowitz's tasteless comments about Israel and Gaza widely publicized
- Lost their representation by WME and, to my knowledge, remain unrepresented in the industry
- Baldoni has not worked or even appeared publicly in his capacity as producer of a project since IEWU came out
- Baldoni and his wife have placed their California home up for sale and had to relocate to Tennessee
- Nathan, Wallace, and Freedman are now subject to multiple other suits related to activities uncovered in discovery during this case.
- Abel still being sued by Stephanie Jones and unclear if Sarowitz's money for her defense will extend to that action now that Sarowitz and Wayfarer are no longer parties. Wallace still being sued for attorney's fees in Texas. All parties still subject to potential damages in the 47.1 action and have given up right to appeal any decision on that motion.

Again, I don't think Blake won the case. But Baldoni didn't win either and isn't even done with litigation. Who know what will be come of the 47.1 motion (maybe nothing, maybe something, I truly have no idea) but there's actually now a ton of pending litigation concerning other Wayfarer parties. Where is Jen Abel's career? Melissa Nathan? Will Jed Wallace change his name and start over or what? I don't see a victory lap here.

FWIW I have a number of family members in the film industry and the general attitude of people who don't know any of these parties is that they all suck -- Blake, Ryan, Baldoni, Nathan, Abel, Heath, Sarowitz, Wallace. They are all kind of toxic right now. People will still work with Ryan and Sarowitz/Wayfarer because both still have financial leverage (whatever people may assume about Ryan's finances, he still has a lot of profitable businesses and plenty of friends in the industry) but Blake and Baldoni are kind of third rail at the moment and I think they'll both need time away before most people (especially anyone A list or aspiring A list) will associate with either of them. Hoover is also being sidelined from involvement with her ongoing projects -- she'll make bank but likely won't be doing press or red carpet for Verity when it comes out in the fall unless things cool down considerably from where they are now before then.

Everybody lost.

[Anonymous]

I’ll give the Blake bot this, you have to admire her absolute lack of mastery of facts and heavy level of delusion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These uneducated bozos are grifters and are having money problems. Without a crystal ball just did a deep dive into the five liens they have from companies working on their Westchester property.

They bought the property for 12 million in 2018 and because they weren’t basically tearing it down from the ground up and putting in a pool house and a bunch of other things, they had to go get approval from planning boards, which took a few years. Apparently there’s some historical significance to the property. In 2023 they started major construction, eventually enlisting five different companies to do various work. All those companies were paid until December 2025. Now all five companies have liens saying they have not been paid since December.

These morons are no different than the people who win the lottery. They don’t know how to manage their money and they spent like the money train from acting was going to last forever. Wrexham is 19 million in the red, aviation is not doing that well either. None of Blakes companies made money. And they have not had acting work in the last couple years. Ryan invested a bunch of his money and another big venture that was supposed to go public this year and is not because of all the drama surrounding a lawsuit.

Then they get in to a lawsuit that’s going to cost them tens of millions of dollars.

The sociopathic bozos could be legit broke. But also could have been laying the groundwork for a scheme to weasel out of this mountain of legal, comm., consultants, experts, etc. bills from this lawsuit. Maybe a bankruptcy filing?

Ryan is more known for that sketchy cell phone company than acting at this point. Maybe next he can become a reverse mortgage spokesman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz/article-15831191/blake-lively-ryan-reynolds-compound-debt-unpaid-workers.html

Daily mail article on the $2 million in unpaid contracting bills. It’s behind a paywall, but if you go to Reddit, you can read the full article.

One of the funniest quotes is how they wanted to do a renovation that “ honors the history and the people” while asking to put in a substantial pool house and a gym.

Howling.

They are such classless vulgar pigs. And there’s no there there - zero brains, sham marriage, and fake wealth. They tried to destroy a man and his family to steal his movie rights to find their gauche lifestyle. If there is karma, they will lose everything and divorce soon enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These uneducated bozos are grifters and are having money problems. Without a crystal ball just did a deep dive into the five liens they have from companies working on their Westchester property.

They bought the property for 12 million in 2018 and because they weren’t basically tearing it down from the ground up and putting in a pool house and a bunch of other things, they had to go get approval from planning boards, which took a few years. Apparently there’s some historical significance to the property. In 2023 they started major construction, eventually enlisting five different companies to do various work. All those companies were paid until December 2025. Now all five companies have liens saying they have not been paid since December.

These morons are no different than the people who win the lottery. They don’t know how to manage their money and they spent like the money train from acting was going to last forever. Wrexham is 19 million in the red, aviation is not doing that well either. None of Blakes companies made money. And they have not had acting work in the last couple years. Ryan invested a bunch of his money and another big venture that was supposed to go public this year and is not because of all the drama surrounding a lawsuit.

Then they get in to a lawsuit that’s going to cost them tens of millions of dollars.

And yet they are much richer than you are, somehow. If they are morons, what does that make you, pray tell?

I’ve been able to pay all my bills since December so no I don’t think they are richer than me. Actually think their wealth has been widely overblown. I don’t think it’s anywhere near the hundreds of millions. So no, I don’t think they are worth that much more than me but either way, I’m not living through a PR and legal nightmare so there’s that.

If you actually do not think that Ryan Reynolds is "worth that much more" than you, a random internet poster, then perhaps we shouldn't trust your commentary on anything because that's absurd. Whatever he spent on this litigation and whatever his current career prospects, he is and will always be much wealthier than any of us posting here. Don't be foolish.

Many actors and celebrities of this ilk fall into financial ruin. They’re uneducated and they get people not saying no them and they get taken advantage of by lawyers and crisis comms and others, just like Blake and Ryan.

They think the money is going to last forever and they don't know how to manage it. These idiots are investing in alcohol companies when drinking rates are as low as weve ever seen and we are entering an era where millennials and Gen Z are largely uninterested in drinking. Utter morons. They are not able to pay contractors for months of work after investing 12 million to buy property than another 17 million of renovations that they can’t afford.

Even Blake doesn’t drink that crap! Blake claims to be a teetotaler — but honestly, I wouldn’t doubt it if that’s another compulsive lie to posture like she’s so disciplined and puritan. Her bestie Taylor is a drunk, I find it hard to believe Taylor would be drinking alone anytime they hung out.

Unsure if Ryan drinks or not. Wouldn’t surprise me if both of them are closet boozehounds because their behavior big picture is totally batshit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lively and Reynolds:

- brought this lawsuit, dragged it on for 18 months, spent tens of millions of dollars doing it
- had their personal communications to friends released. Compromised trust of other celebrities who had their texts released.
- had embarrassing facts about Blake’s business failures published. Including horrific drop in sales of her beauty line and drinks products. Admitted Betty buzz is dissolving and focus is getting rid of whatever stock they have through Amazon.
- asked for $300 million in damages. Got zero dollars.
- safe to say they wanted an NDA abd didn’t get one. They did not want Justin’s lawyers parading around talking to creators and podcasts. They are doing that. Reports are he might have a tell all in the works, which he will profit immensely from, at their expense, and more podcast, deep dives, and weeks of bad press for them.

Please tell me again how they won.

I don't think they won, but I also don't think Baldoni or Wayfarer won. They:

- Admitted in writing that Lively's claims "deserved to be heard."
- Had their entire countersuit dismissed by the judge for failure to articulate even a single valid claim against Blake, Ryan, the NYT, or Sloane. Asked for $400 million in damages. Got zero dollars. Have zero opportunity to recover attorneys fees from any of the litigation and they have given up their chance to appeal.
- Had texts and emails detailing how Wayfarer and their public relations teams sought to "bury" Lively widely publicized, as well as many embarrassing texts where, for instance, Abel is revealed to mock Baldoni for some of the same behavior Blake ultimately sues him for as well as other tone deaf and embarrassing behavior, like wanting to go on a quack doctor's show to blame his behavior on his neurodivergence, or going to Mexico to get a sketchy stem cell infusion for free that ultimately landed him in the hospital
- Baldoni was regularly dragged in the press for being whiny, weird, and vindictive, mocked with Onion headlines like "Justin Baldoni sues Justin Baldoni for getting him into this mess"
- A myriad of women have come forward to express displeasure of working with Baldoni and Heath, including but not limited to: their longtime podcast cohost, two other actresses on IEWU, another director who had worked with them prior to IEWU, and the independent producer they hired for the film
- Sarowitz's tasteless comments about Israel and Gaza widely publicized
- Lost their representation by WME and, to my knowledge, remain unrepresented in the industry
- Baldoni has not worked or even appeared publicly in his capacity as producer of a project since IEWU came out
- Baldoni and his wife have placed their California home up for sale and had to relocate to Tennessee
- Nathan, Wallace, and Freedman are now subject to multiple other suits related to activities uncovered in discovery during this case.
- Abel still being sued by Stephanie Jones and unclear if Sarowitz's money for her defense will extend to that action now that Sarowitz and Wayfarer are no longer parties. Wallace still being sued for attorney's fees in Texas. All parties still subject to potential damages in the 47.1 action and have given up right to appeal any decision on that motion.

Again, I don't think Blake won the case. But Baldoni didn't win either and isn't even done with litigation. Who know what will be come of the 47.1 motion (maybe nothing, maybe something, I truly have no idea) but there's actually now a ton of pending litigation concerning other Wayfarer parties. Where is Jen Abel's career? Melissa Nathan? Will Jed Wallace change his name and start over or what? I don't see a victory lap here.

FWIW I have a number of family members in the film industry and the general attitude of people who don't know any of these parties is that they all suck -- Blake, Ryan, Baldoni, Nathan, Abel, Heath, Sarowitz, Wallace. They are all kind of toxic right now. People will still work with Ryan and Sarowitz/Wayfarer because both still have financial leverage (whatever people may assume about Ryan's finances, he still has a lot of profitable businesses and plenty of friends in the industry) but Blake and Baldoni are kind of third rail at the moment and I think they'll both need time away before most people (especially anyone A list or aspiring A list) will associate with either of them. Hoover is also being sidelined from involvement with her ongoing projects -- she'll make bank but likely won't be doing press or red carpet for Verity when it comes out in the fall unless things cool down considerably from where they are now before then.

Everybody lost.

But Blake is the one who bought this for herself. That’s the thing. Justin was on the defense. He didn’t wish for this lawsuit.

But your list of things is ridiculous. Blake lost tens of millions of dollars and will never work in the industry again or probably run a business but Justin got an onion headline? Are you kidding me right now?

Blake and Ryan were always going to lose more because they always had more to lose. That’s just the way it is. That is why any lawyer or PR team would have urged them to stay away from this. That’s why Leslie Sloan did not want to pursue Jenn Abel‘s phone messages when she got them she saw where this was going to go and there was just no way it was going to end well for Blake. Justin may have actually made money off this at the end of the day with a tell all and everything - he could’ve come out ahead - not a lot of people knew him and now people have rallied around him.

Sorry, but just because you put a lot of words doesn’t mean they have impact. Your long list proves more than anything that blake and Ryan have everything to lose and Justin didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Successful spirits are marketed as fun, masculine, luxury, high quality.

Bozo Ryan’s genius idea was to market his gin to lispy, effeminate men like himself, with a cocktail called “The Vasectomy.”

Then Blake tried to shill it while stressing she does not drink the crap.

Both are dumb-as-dogshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Successful spirits are marketed as fun, masculine, luxury, high quality.

Bozo Ryan’s genius idea was to market his gin to lispy, effeminate men like himself, with a cocktail called “The Vasectomy.”

Then Blake tried to shill it while stressing she does not drink the crap.

Both are dumb-as-dogshit.

It’s almost unfathomable how dumb Blake is. I truly don’t think she thought there were mics in the dancing scene. I truly think she thinks asking Sony to delete the dailies means that they’re gone and she doesn’t know how video works and that it lives probably in multiple files, including Wayfare.

[Anonymous]

What is unfathomable is that this case is over and some of you are still weirdly obsessed with an actress you claim to not care about and her husband you also claim to not care about.

You've spent more time thinking about Blake and Ryan than I've spent thinking about my own parents at this point. It is not healthy. Get help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is unfathomable is that this case is over and some of you are still weirdly obsessed with an actress you claim to not care about and her husband you also claim to not care about.

You've spent more time thinking about Blake and Ryan than I've spent thinking about my own parents at this point. It is not healthy. Get help.

I disagree. There are plenty of people on here so it’s not like it’s one person. But this has just been a fascinating case for so many reasons. There was just such a sense of injustice for a lot of us. This couple used their power and leverage to falsely accuse someone and get an article in the New York Times and then drag him through a lawsuit, all because she didn’t like that she was getting negative backlash on social media and her hair line which was destined to fail anyway was not doing well.

This case is very much of its time. I truly think that if this had happened even two or three years before it did, it would’ve turned out very differently. TikTok and Instagram reels as we know it exploded in 2020 and it took a while for the older generations beyond the teens and tweens to really leverage it. It wasn’t until like 2022 or 2023 when we had all these digital content creators…. I don’t know if the general public even 5 years ago would’ve combed through the docket and found all this. I’m sure there would’ve been journalists who were interested to write short articles, but we would’ve missed all the nuance and since we know now the control Blake and Ryan have over the mainstream media, their story would have very much been told as they wanted it.

It’s actually been a really nice thing to know that there are lawyers and others and different kinds of journalists who aren’t working for mainstream media who are able to go through the docket on these kinds of things and post informed videos and content.

I really don’t care about Blake and Ryan, but this case holds my interest and likely others for many reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is unfathomable is that this case is over and some of you are still weirdly obsessed with an actress you claim to not care about and her husband you also claim to not care about.

You've spent more time thinking about Blake and Ryan than I've spent thinking about my own parents at this point. It is not healthy. Get help.

It is not healthy to try to destroy an innocent man and his family for sport and greed. I don't care how much money they have (or don't have), they are pond scum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz/article-15831191/blake-lively-ryan-reynolds-compound-debt-unpaid-workers.html

Daily mail article on the $2 million in unpaid contracting bills. It’s behind a paywall, but if you go to Reddit, you can read the full article.

One of the funniest quotes is how they wanted to do a renovation that “ honors the history and the people” while asking to put in a substantial pool house and a gym.

Howling.

Liens on an under construction dream house suggest, to me, they are no longer happily married and do not see a long-term future together.