Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Do American jewish children ever judge other people who look different than them or ever make off color remarks? Because I know despite what I teach my child at home they tend to say very offensive things sometimes much to my chagrin.

What an odd post. Saying "f****** Jew," as alleged, is way worse than an off color remark. The Jewish players are the victims here.

But why did that kid say that? There’s a good chance that he never heard that phrase from his parents. How do we stop this? People say blame the parents, but trust me it is not always the parents’ fault.

Maybe he saw the Jews of the IDF killing children, killing hostages and bombing hospitals?

I thought we were talking about the girls' basketball involving a school from a pkace called Yonkers.

The accused player is a she. Please keep up.

No it’s a boy basketball player from Queens

[Anonymous]

Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

So, most Gazans were ALREADY in refugee camps. What many Gazans ( and neighboring countries) fear is that they will never be allowed to return. There is already precedent for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

Maybe the children are believed to be terrorists in the making?

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Anonymous wrote:Do American jewish children ever judge other people who look different than them or ever make off color remarks? Because I know despite what I teach my child at home they tend to say very offensive things sometimes much to my chagrin.

What an odd post. Saying "f****** Jew," as alleged, is way worse than an off color remark. The Jewish players are the victims here.

But why did that kid say that? There’s a good chance that he never heard that phrase from his parents. How do we stop this? People say blame the parents, but trust me it is not always the parents’ fault.

Maybe he saw the Jews of the IDF killing children, killing hostages and bombing hospitals?

I thought we were talking about the girls' basketball involving a school from a pkace called Yonkers.

The accused player is a she. Please keep up.

No it’s a boy basketball player from Queens

It’s a trans girl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

So it’s best to leave them in harms way? Interestingly most countries offered Ukrainians a way out of Ukraine, knowing that most likely they will never return to the occupied areas. Such an idiotic argument, we would rather let them die …

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

So, most Gazans were ALREADY in refugee camps. What many Gazans ( and neighboring countries) fear is that they will never be allowed to return. There is already precedent for that.

These “refugee camps” were actual cities with high rise buildings, they were called refugee camps because Palestinians pass down refugee status generation to generation. These were not tent camps .

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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ

“Free Palestine” is not a slur. The fact that you think so is a show of Zionist fragility. Because Palestine is not free, it’s occupied and that is a fact. Even if it hurts your feelings.

Gaza sure was not occupied. Hamas drove it into hell.

lol ok tell DoS please since they interpret occupation differently:

"The Occupied Territories, which include the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, are subject to the jurisdiction of Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), with the division of responsibilities overlapping in much of the territory. "
https://www.state.gov/reports/2016-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-and-the-occupied-territories/israel-and-the-occupied-territories-the-occupied-territories/#:~:text=The%20Occupied%20Territories%2C%20which%20include,in%20much%20of%20the%20territory.

You think you can just go by what "feels occupied" and not by actual definition of occupation?

I mean, Israel withdrew from Gaza almost 20 years ago. Hamas was elected as Gazans' representative and drove Fatah away. So I am not sure what the reference to the PA is. Israel took measures regarding Gaza because, well, like, Hamas is Israel's sworn enemy and took terrorist actions to that effect. Hamas took Gaza and turned it into an autocratic hell scape.

I mean, there is an international definition of occupation and it may not coincide with stuff in your head.

Also, occupation is not only for the nice people. If you blockade/occupy folks you don't like, it still counts as blockade/occupation.

The definition was debatable and nuanced post the date of your linked document. What is in my head is reality and reason. Hamas wrecked Gaza.

Guess what? Occupying and blockading a piece of land ruled by people you disagree with also counts as occupation and siege. Occupation is not only for the nice people.

What you call "reality and reason" doesn't matter. There is an internationally agreed upon definition of occupation, and that's what matters.

In contrast, many prominent international institutions, organizations and bodies—including the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, UN General Assembly (UNGA), European Union (EU), African Union, International Criminal Court (ICC) (both Pre-Trial Chamber I and the Office of the Prosecutor), Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch—as well as international legal experts and other organizations, argue that Israel has occupied Palestinian territories including Gaza since 1967.1 While they acknowledge that Israel no longer had the traditional marker of effective control after the disengagement—a military presence—they hold that with the help of technology, it has maintained the requisite control in other ways.

The status of Israel’s occupation is legally significant, as it determines the legal obligations Israel owes to Gaza. Occupying states have heightened responsibilities to protect local populations and have the basic health and safety supplies they need to survive. Given concerns about Israel’s actions in Gaza—such as possible war crimes, including starvation and the denial of humanitarian aid—Israel would likely be in breach of these obligations.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/gaza-israel-occupied-international-law/

Israel had been providing plenty to Gaza prior to the October 7 massacre. Even now, with its humanitarian corridors and allowing fuel and aid for Gazans and Hamas, it is dong more than any other attacked country would.

Other than the United States in Afghanistan you mean. I’m sure that was an oversight.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

Why should the Palestinians leave their country? Why can’t the Israelis compensate the Palestinians for pain, suffering and property that was taken from them? Israel needs to do the right thing and allow the Palestinians to return to their homes with full rights of citizenship.

Why let the criminals win?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

So it’s best to leave them in harms way? Interestingly most countries offered Ukrainians a way out of Ukraine, knowing that most likely they will never return to the occupied areas. Such an idiotic argument, we would rather let them die …

Ukrainian refugees were never at risk of statelessness. Making someone stateless is a pretty big deal. There are UN conventions on it.

More than half of Gaza is under 18. Meaning you’re talking about a million refugees. Where does the money come to feed, house, educate, and provide medical care for a million children? Lebanon is a financial mess and Egypt isn’t doing much better— so who pays?

Personally as a taxpayer I’d rather we stop funding the bombs. Then we don’t need to fund a new war crime either.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

Lebanon already allowed Palestinian refugees in resulting in a decade long civil war. Palestinians in Lebanon are not allowed to own land or to work as physicians, lawyers, judges. Egypt has Muslim Brotherhood outlawed and Hamas is an offshoot of Muslim Brotherhood. Egypt is not going to allow anyone who can potentially be radicalized into the country .Kuwait expelled the majority of its 400,000 Palestinian population. Syria killed thousands of its Palestinian refugees during the war. Jordan has many as it is up to 40% and does not want to lose the balance of powers. No one will take them because they are not wanted. Let’s be honest, it has nothing to do with the fact that they may no be able to return.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

So it’s best to leave them in harms way? Interestingly most countries offered Ukrainians a way out of Ukraine, knowing that most likely they will never return to the occupied areas. Such an idiotic argument, we would rather let them die …

Ukrainian refugees were never at risk of statelessness. Making someone stateless is a pretty big deal. There are UN conventions on it.

More than half of Gaza is under 18. Meaning you’re talking about a million refugees. Where does the money come to feed, house, educate, and provide medical care for a million children? Lebanon is a financial mess and Egypt isn’t doing much better— so who pays?

Personally as a taxpayer I’d rather we stop funding the bombs. Then we don’t need to fund a new war crime either.

Doesn’t answer the question of why it’s better to let them stay in harms way. UN and the rest of the world was already spending billions of dollars on Gaza annually. That money can be rerouted to the actual refugee camps .

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.

So it’s best to leave them in harms way? Interestingly most countries offered Ukrainians a way out of Ukraine, knowing that most likely they will never return to the occupied areas. Such an idiotic argument, we would rather let them die …

Ukrainian refugees were never at risk of statelessness. Making someone stateless is a pretty big deal. There are UN conventions on it.

More than half of Gaza is under 18. Meaning you’re talking about a million refugees. Where does the money come to feed, house, educate, and provide medical care for a million children? Lebanon is a financial mess and Egypt isn’t doing much better— so who pays?

Personally as a taxpayer I’d rather we stop funding the bombs. Then we don’t need to fund a new war crime either.

Doesn’t answer the question of why it’s better to let them stay in harms way. UN and the rest of the world was already spending billions of dollars on Gaza annually. That money can be rerouted to the actual refugee camps .

It’s better for them not to be in harms way. There is no doubt.

But there’s no option to evacuate them. Lebanon doesn’t share a border with Gaza, and Israel insists on vetting every single person out of Rafah. Israel could set up a refugee camp for them in Israel, as they are the sole beneficiaries of ethnic cleansing in Gaza, but there’s no reason for Egypt or Lebanon to help commit a war crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.

So, this would be history.

Palestinian refugees have not been a good experience for anyone. They absolutely destroyed Lebanon. Civil war. Mayhem. Terrorism. They were horrible in Jordan too. Black September. Murdering the Prime Minister. In Kuwait, they sided with Saddam Hussain and collaberated with the invasion. These days, they are allied with Iran and Shia extremists. Which is not a great move politically in the Sunni world. And everyone saw what they did when they invaded Israel.

And no on wants any part of that.

Also, no neighboring country wants to partake in any kind of population transfer. After the violence of the invasion, these things are going to be permanent. It's not surprising at all the Egypt is keeping that border very closed.

It's not lack of sympathy for those poor kids. But Palestinian leaders are terrible. And no country will take them in.