Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

I think it's impossible to evaluate the Jenny Slate allegation without actually knowing what he said. All THR said was that it had to do with motherhood and that it made Slate uncomfortable enough that she filed an HR report. You are assuming you know what he said but you don't, none of us do.

So maybe before you start speculating someone must be a racist for filing a single HR complaint on a set where other people also experienced inappropriate behavior, you could wait until you actually know what the HR complaints said and why Slate felt Heath's comment crossed a line.

I guarantee that JS took an innocent banter that may have been somewhat cultural, and twisted it into something that was offensive because it was being said by a man of color. She probably felt uncomfortable with his presence in her personal space at a certain time of day because she was alone. Or it could have been he was really nice and that made her uncomfortable.

What would have been totally okay behavior by someone who was not a POC became weaponized.

And having BL and JS report that ‘he/they made us feel uncomfortable’ is akin to trying to get a POC fired because you did not like them.

Despicable.

You "guarantee" it? Based on what? What about Jenny Slate's history or things she in the past would lead you to believe that she was simply uncomfortable being alone with a black man and ran to HR to report an innocuous statement because of her raging racism?

There is also zero evidence that Slate or Blake Lively reported that interactions with Heath were uncomfortable with the goal of getting him fired. He was a producer on the film and a CEO at Wayfarer so not really a "fire-able" position. Most of Lively's allegations are focused on Baldoni, not Heath, who was also not fire-able.

You are inventing a narrative in which Jenny Slate, who has sued no one, did not even want to come forward with this allegation (and it appears still hasn't come forward with it, actually), and has zero history of bad behavior on set or in the press, is a racist who tried to get a black man fired. But that's not what happened, at all.

You need to stop and look at your own behavior here. When y'all were going after Lively you could at least argue that she has a problematic history, is known to be hard to work with, that the way she handled things with Baldoni were escalating on her side. But none of that is true for Slate. So when you go after her in the exact same way, it really starts to look like just raging misogyny and a mob who loves nothing more than to call a woman names and tear her down.

Yep.

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Jenny Slate wants nothing to do with this. Blake is dragging her into it. That’s pretty foul.

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Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

No. You haven’t read. Don’t attack and presume everyone here who read both complaints and now including her amended complaint and see that her claims are empty.

The Jezebel comment tracks though I don’t love the usage of “narcissistic injury.”

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Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

No. You haven’t read. Don’t attack and presume everyone here who read both complaints and now including her amended complaint and see that her claims are empty.

The Jezebel comment tracks though I don’t love the usage of “narcissistic injury.”

Kind of ironic you are arguing that people are basing their comments on the complaints and not secondary sources and then you reference a secondary source and an opinion!! I don't know how many pages I would have to go back to find a reference to a page in the complaints but I could easily find a dozen secondary sources being referenced in the last few pages alone.

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Anonymous wrote:I really can’t imagine what someone could have said about the sanctity of motherhood that would upset me enough to report them. It’s such a bizarre claim. There seems to be a large lack of life skills with some of these folks.

You know one line from an online article. Nothing directly from a source. It seems so far it is more the men who lack life skills and knowing boundaries and professional behavior in a workplace.

No, it doesn’t seem that way. At all. If you have that perception I’m guessing that you too struggle in this area.

+ 100. Really bizarre take by PP.

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Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

No. You haven’t read. Don’t attack and presume everyone here who read both complaints and now including her amended complaint and see that her claims are empty.

The Jezebel comment tracks though I don’t love the usage of “narcissistic injury.”

Kind of ironic you are arguing that people are basing their comments on the complaints and not secondary sources and then you reference a secondary source and an opinion!! I don't know how many pages I would have to go back to find a reference to a page in the complaints but I could easily find a dozen secondary sources being referenced in the last few pages alone.

Calm down, and learn language. I have read all of the pleadings. I didn’t want to double-post, and I did not claim that a comment just brought from Jezebel formed the basis of my view. I’ve read the submitted material and don’t find BL credible on that basis.

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Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

No. You haven’t read. Don’t attack and presume everyone here who read both complaints and now including her amended complaint and see that her claims are empty.

The Jezebel comment tracks though I don’t love the usage of “narcissistic injury.”

I mean, if someone on Jezebel posted it, then it must be true. Now you will go about saying you have facts and evidence...not realizing Jezebel is just people speculating and sharing opinions.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

The sanctity of motherhood comments either on their own or collectively with other actions made her uncomfortable enough that she went to Sony and complained.

So far I don't think there is any indication his race is at play. The complaints are about all 3 executives of Wayfarer and mostly aimed at Jamey and Justin who were on set. People of any race can do wrong and so far I don't see anything that makes it seem that becase he is biracial she has complained about him any differently than Justin.

Agree I don’t think race was at play as much as a power dynamic over Jamey and Justin. Blake believes she is better than them, so deserves to take over the film. Blake has a history of being rude and entitled to other white women and men, as seen in past interviews. She doesn’t discriminate when it comes to trying to throw her weight around.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

I think it's impossible to evaluate the Jenny Slate allegation without actually knowing what he said. All THR said was that it had to do with motherhood and that it made Slate uncomfortable enough that she filed an HR report. You are assuming you know what he said but you don't, none of us do.

So maybe before you start speculating someone must be a racist for filing a single HR complaint on a set where other people also experienced inappropriate behavior, you could wait until you actually know what the HR complaints said and why Slate felt Heath's comment crossed a line.

I guarantee that JS took an innocent banter that may have been somewhat cultural, and twisted it into something that was offensive because it was being said by a man of color. She probably felt uncomfortable with his presence in her personal space at a certain time of day because she was alone. Or it could have been he was really nice and that made her uncomfortable.

What would have been totally okay behavior by someone who was not a POC became weaponized.

And having BL and JS report that ‘he/they made us feel uncomfortable’ is akin to trying to get a POC fired because you did not like them.

Despicable.

You "guarantee" it? Based on what? What about Jenny Slate's history or things she in the past would lead you to believe that she was simply uncomfortable being alone with a black man and ran to HR to report an innocuous statement because of her raging racism?

There is also zero evidence that Slate or Blake Lively reported that interactions with Heath were uncomfortable with the goal of getting him fired. He was a producer on the film and a CEO at Wayfarer so not really a "fire-able" position. Most of Lively's allegations are focused on Baldoni, not Heath, who was also not fire-able.

You are inventing a narrative in which Jenny Slate, who has sued no one, did not even want to come forward with this allegation (and it appears still hasn't come forward with it, actually), and has zero history of bad behavior on set or in the press, is a racist who tried to get a black man fired. But that's not what happened, at all.

You need to stop and look at your own behavior here. When y'all were going after Lively you could at least argue that she has a problematic history, is known to be hard to work with, that the way she handled things with Baldoni were escalating on her side. But none of that is true for Slate. So when you go after her in the exact same way, it really starts to look like just raging misogyny and a mob who loves nothing more than to call a woman names and tear her down.

Absolutely agree with this. The comments in the is thread are getting bizarre. Have to skip a bunch of the crazy ones.

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Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

No. You haven’t read. Don’t attack and presume everyone here who read both complaints and now including her amended complaint and see that her claims are empty.

The Jezebel comment tracks though I don’t love the usage of “narcissistic injury.”

I mean, if someone on Jezebel posted it, then it must be true. Now you will go about saying you have facts and evidence...not realizing Jezebel is just people speculating and sharing opinions.

I wasn’t citing jezebel as the basis for my view. You and your ilk here consistently ruin the thread. It’s such a drag.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

The sanctity of motherhood comments either on their own or collectively with other actions made her uncomfortable enough that she went to Sony and complained.

So far I don't think there is any indication his race is at play. The complaints are about all 3 executives of Wayfarer and mostly aimed at Jamey and Justin who were on set. People of any race can do wrong and so far I don't see anything that makes it seem that becase he is biracial she has complained about him any differently than Justin.

Agree I don’t think race was at play as much as a power dynamic over Jamey and Justin. Blake believes she is better than them, so deserves to take over the film. Blake has a history of being rude and entitled to other white women and men, as seen in past interviews. She doesn’t discriminate when it comes to trying to throw her weight around.

OK, but some wine in a professional advising role to Blake should have thought of this. Even if it has nothing to do with race, you have to admit the optics don’t look great here.

Can we all just admit that the bar for sexual harassment is incredibly high? When I think of all the cases that have hit the news in the past several years, it’s been multiple women coming forward, after years of abuse. That’s kind of the bar here. Not saying that’s ideal or right, but this is the world we in.

If you come out claiming sexual harassment, the bar needs to be high just for your own protection because the world will tear you down. So either advisors of Blake thought that they had an airtight case, or there were ulterior motives at and they thought they could steamroll this guy. But someone, in scrutinizing this case, should have picked up that heath’s race and the kind of accusations being made against him might become a problem.

It seems like this has occurred to no one, which is really telling to me.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

I think it's impossible to evaluate the Jenny Slate allegation without actually knowing what he said. All THR said was that it had to do with motherhood and that it made Slate uncomfortable enough that she filed an HR report. You are assuming you know what he said but you don't, none of us do.

So maybe before you start speculating someone must be a racist for filing a single HR complaint on a set where other people also experienced inappropriate behavior, you could wait until you actually know what the HR complaints said and why Slate felt Heath's comment crossed a line.

I guarantee that JS took an innocent banter that may have been somewhat cultural, and twisted it into something that was offensive because it was being said by a man of color. She probably felt uncomfortable with his presence in her personal space at a certain time of day because she was alone. Or it could have been he was really nice and that made her uncomfortable.

What would have been totally okay behavior by someone who was not a POC became weaponized.

And having BL and JS report that ‘he/they made us feel uncomfortable’ is akin to trying to get a POC fired because you did not like them.

Despicable.

You "guarantee" it? Based on what? What about Jenny Slate's history or things she in the past would lead you to believe that she was simply uncomfortable being alone with a black man and ran to HR to report an innocuous statement because of her raging racism?

There is also zero evidence that Slate or Blake Lively reported that interactions with Heath were uncomfortable with the goal of getting him fired. He was a producer on the film and a CEO at Wayfarer so not really a "fire-able" position. Most of Lively's allegations are focused on Baldoni, not Heath, who was also not fire-able.

You are inventing a narrative in which Jenny Slate, who has sued no one, did not even want to come forward with this allegation (and it appears still hasn't come forward with it, actually), and has zero history of bad behavior on set or in the press, is a racist who tried to get a black man fired. But that's not what happened, at all.

You need to stop and look at your own behavior here. When y'all were going after Lively you could at least argue that she has a problematic history, is known to be hard to work with, that the way she handled things with Baldoni were escalating on her side. But none of that is true for Slate. So when you go after her in the exact same way, it really starts to look like just raging misogyny and a mob who loves nothing more than to call a woman names and tear her down.

Absolutely agree with this. The comments in the is thread are getting bizarre. Have to skip a bunch of the crazy ones.

I don’t know enough about Jenny Slate to comment. All I read is that her $15,000/month apartment wasn’t conducive to raising her child.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

The sanctity of motherhood comments either on their own or collectively with other actions made her uncomfortable enough that she went to Sony and complained.

So far I don't think there is any indication his race is at play. The complaints are about all 3 executives of Wayfarer and mostly aimed at Jamey and Justin who were on set. People of any race can do wrong and so far I don't see anything that makes it seem that becase he is biracial she has complained about him any differently than Justin.

Agree I don’t think race was at play as much as a power dynamic over Jamey and Justin. Blake believes she is better than them, so deserves to take over the film. Blake has a history of being rude and entitled to other white women and men, as seen in past interviews. She doesn’t discriminate when it comes to trying to throw her weight around.

OK, but some wine in a professional advising role to Blake should have thought of this. Even if it has nothing to do with race, you have to admit the optics don’t look great here.

Can we all just admit that the bar for sexual harassment is incredibly high? When I think of all the cases that have hit the news in the past several years, it’s been multiple women coming forward, after years of abuse. That’s kind of the bar here. Not saying that’s ideal or right, but this is the world we in.

If you come out claiming sexual harassment, the bar needs to be high just for your own protection because the world will tear you down. So either advisors of Blake thought that they had an airtight case, or there were ulterior motives at and they thought they could steamroll this guy. But someone, in scrutinizing this case, should have picked up that heath’s race and the kind of accusations being made against him might become a problem.

It seems like this has occurred to no one, which is really telling to me.

I knew the Heath was a poc, but Justin is main victim here. Heath is just collateral damage imo.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire weight discussion is the least interesting thing about this case. No one and I mean, not even Blake’s team thinks asking about weight is sexual harassment. They’re trying to paint a pattern of uncomfortable behavior blah blah blah, but when the rest of the evidence is so scant that falls apart too. The fact that people are insisting on bringing it up, means that they have nothing else.

Anyway, attention is now being paid to the fact that Jamiy Heath is a person of color. This ran under the radar for a long time because the focus was on Justin and even if you go back a couple of weeks ago, most people who were debating this case, thought that all the incidents were about Justin. I think this Jenny Slate complaint, being that it’s about Heath, has bought him more into the light and now the internet is starting to pick up on the fact that these two white women repeatedly made fairly stereotypical complaints about him.

I’d like to learn more about Jenny’s complaint, but it seems like his sanctity of motherhood comment just made her uncomfortable. Would love to know why. Did something just seem off? HMMMM.

And I don’t think it’s going to look good for Blake that she is giving into the oversexed stereotype. He just couldn’t tear his eyes away from her in that trailer! He just couldn’t keep from showing me p*rn on set! I’m really wondering why her team went that route, I think they probably just wanted to get the number of complaints up and thought it was all going to be focused on Justin and people weren’t going to take this deep a look. And, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that most of her team is white and they just not thinking about this. I think the next few weeks they’re going to be going on quite a journey here.

The sanctity of motherhood comments either on their own or collectively with other actions made her uncomfortable enough that she went to Sony and complained.

So far I don't think there is any indication his race is at play. The complaints are about all 3 executives of Wayfarer and mostly aimed at Jamey and Justin who were on set. People of any race can do wrong and so far I don't see anything that makes it seem that becase he is biracial she has complained about him any differently than Justin.

I respect your opinion but do not buy it. There is a lot of racial stuff at play here. When you are a POC, you see it right away. That’s how once I saw JH’s pic yesterday, it all made sense.

Another POC did a tik tok that I viewed just now and she summed it up perfectly.

The reality is that BL’s allegations take on a totally different context when you factor in JB and JH as being POC.

Glad JB saved receipts.

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Anonymous wrote:What you heard, read online, think, and feel has zero connection to what the facts of the case are.

I don’t agree. This is not just entertainment weekly covering the story every few days in three paragraphs. We have seen hundreds and hundreds of pages of complaints, we’ve seen video from the movie, screenshots of texts. Yes, a lot of this is narrative and it does need to hold up in a court of law, but to say this is all just speculation is crazy. We all live in the real world here.

The movie clips you see isn't all that was filmed. Most scenes have multiple takes and are released very selectively. Just because you saw a few seconds of film doesn't actually mean you know all the facts and you have the evidence. That is my point. Just because one side shared texts that they felt supported their client and made the other look bad doesn't mean you have all the evidence and know the facts of the case. They left out many others they didn't want you to see. The complaints are biased and they only share some information (and intentionally omit others) and only share with with inflammatory and dramtic language and a bias that is defending their client and attacking the person being sued. It isn't giving you the full picture. Your post is my point exactly. Saying well I heard Blake is like xx or I read on Lipstick Alley that Justing is yyy - isn't facts. Saying well I think I know what happened isn't fact. Saying well I feel Justin would never or Blake would always isn't fact. Reading someone else's opinion and deciding that is what happened - doesn't actually mean that is what happened. Even if you heard it on Youtube or read it on a forum or whatever.

You do realize all the legal documents are public, right? You’re acting like people are just relying on Hollywood reporters or influencers.

I would say 99% of the people on here are relying pretty much entirely on secondary sources. Clearly most haven't read the documents in their entirety or understood what they say and don't say. Almost no one on here even understands what a legal claim of sexual harrassment is which is why half the post are about how one specific thing isn't sexual harrassment (in their eyes) so clearly BL is lying or she wore a bathing suit on social media so she can't be sexually harrassed etc. Rarely are the documents themselves and legal aspects being referenced and a lawsuit complaint in itself isn't the full picture - that is why there is still discovery and depositions to come.

No. You haven’t read. Don’t attack and presume everyone here who read both complaints and now including her amended complaint and see that her claims are empty.

The Jezebel comment tracks though I don’t love the usage of “narcissistic injury.”

I mean, if someone on Jezebel posted it, then it must be true. Now you will go about saying you have facts and evidence...not realizing Jezebel is just people speculating and sharing opinions.

I wasn’t citing jezebel as the basis for my view. You and your ilk here consistently ruin the thread. It’s such a drag.

“I would like to post a bunch of poisonous baseless bs and you keep ruining the thread by disagreeing with me and posting contrary evidence.”

DP

I don’t have as much of a problem with comments when you are civil-ish and don’t constantly talk about the people the author doesn’t like as being evil or despicable. This isn’t a telenovela. If comments stick to fact-ish stuff they wouldn’t get as much pushback. When comments are crazy-ish they will get more pushback.