It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous
Affirmative action
Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students

I'm sure there are tons more.


How about the money designated for HBCUs?
Welfare payments (again not specifically for minorities)
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Affirmative action
Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students

I'm sure there are tons more.


How about the money designated for HBCUs?
Welfare payments (again not specifically for minorities)


Federal Gov't contracts awarded to businesses owned by minorities
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP, nobody read the article. Are you the black nationalist poster? You know, long winded rambling responses about nonsense that you read in one of your extremist AA studies textbooks.

So, what if you are bi-racial? Do you pay, or get paid?


And what if you're descendant of European immigrants who came AFTER slavery had been abolished?

They're exempt from any payment, correct?


They chose to come to a racist country with policies that harmed black people.

You get the good AND the bad.

You chose to stay in this racist country. You get the good AND the bad.


Yes, my ancestors (Quakers & Union soldiers) have tried to lift up others for centuries. And I’m not going anywhere.

It’s time to lift up black people in a meaningful way - eliminate the wealth gap.


You get no credit for that and PP's judgment is based solely on his/her perception of your race.

- another person who's family fought for the Union



Yup.

Let's stop racist thinking.

People are NOT their skin color.


Skin color DOES matter in our society. Two Harvard-educated lawyers head home at 9pm from the gym - one black and one white. Which one gets stopped by cops on the street for “fitting the description”?

Systemic racism exists today. The harm from slavery & Jim Crow continues today.





If whites were 12% of our country yet responsible for 50% of all violent crime, you bet it would be the white lawyer who would get stopped.



Why are black people disproportionately arrested and convicted of more crimes? Systemic racism.

You just made the case for reparations.


Um, they are arrested and stopped more because they are DOING more crime. Why is that hard to process? You think think all the black men (and women) sitting in jail for murder just were minding their own business and they were stopped, arresting, went to trial and convicted of murder (or rape, armed robbery, etc.) Look at crime stats. I’ve posted them before but won’t bother because facts seem to make more difference. But stats show black people commit more crime- by a lot- period. So yes, of course they are going to be arrested and convicted more. Go ahead and throw some money at that problem and see if it makes a difference. It won’t.



Several reasons why:
- less wealth
- less education
- fewer opportunities
- more patrolling & profiling
- more rigorous prosecution & sentences


Money, education, and opportunities are out there for taking-for everyone of any color. Time to start looking within and stop the blame game.



The whole point is that black people in the US have fewer opportunities, less money, and less education because of US policies.

It’s very telling that you place the blame on internal factors over external factors.


That is what the left wants you to believe, when it is convenient for their argument. It's convenient now because it is an election year and the left is pushing race relations.
Truth be told..... they have been provided the same, OR MORE, opportunities in that past few decades.


Examples?


Affirmative action
What % of black HS seniors went to college vs. % of white seniors in 2019?

Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
What were standardized testing scores for black elementary students vs. white students in 2019?

Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
What % of businesses are black-owned?

Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students
What % of non-FA scholarships go to black students?

I'm sure there are tons more.


^^ Sorry, you need some #s to back those up claims of “the same, or MORE, opportunities”.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Affirmative action
Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students

I'm sure there are tons more.


How about the money designated for HBCUs?
Welfare payments (again not specifically for minorities)


Federal Gov't contracts awarded to businesses owned by minorities


What % of the fed contractor spending ($) goes to black-owned businesses in 2019?
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Fact: There is a wealth gap in the US, caused by US policies.

Let’s acknowledge it and try to fix it. You don’t need to “feel guilty” to support that.


Sounds good to me. But there is a lot of noise around this subject, and a fair amount of it seems to be more interested in fixing the blame than fixing the problem.
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Affirmative action
Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students

I'm sure there are tons more.


How about the money designated for HBCUs?
Welfare payments (again not specifically for minorities)


Federal Gov't contracts awarded to businesses owned by minorities


A shitty white employee is a lot easier to fire than a shitty black employee.
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Fact: There is a wealth gap in the US, caused by US policies.

Let’s acknowledge it and try to fix it. You don’t need to “feel guilty” to support that.


Sounds good to me. But there is a lot of noise around this subject, and a fair amount of it seems to be more interested in fixing the blame than fixing the problem.


Just look at this thread - there are still many people who won’t even acknowledge there is a gap or the reasons behind it (external vs. internal factors).

The PP just said that black people have at least, or more, opportunities than white people. WTF?
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Fact: There is a wealth gap in the US, caused by US policies.


Fact: There is always going to be a wealth gap. Do you think there is not a wealth gap in Venezuela? A socialist country. Problem is, there are a lot more poor people struggling for food there than there are here.

There is also more opportunity here. And, there is more mobility.
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Fact: There is a wealth gap in the US, caused by US policies.


Fact: There is always going to be a wealth gap. Do you think there is not a wealth gap in Venezuela? A socialist country. Problem is, there are a lot more poor people struggling for food there than there are here.

There is also more opportunity here. And, there is more mobility.


Did you even read the OP? A wealth gap between white people and black people.

The white household living near the poverty line typically has about $18,000 in wealth, while black households in similar economic straits typically have a median wealth near zero.

At the other end of America’s economic spectrum, black households constitute less than 2 percent of those in the top one percent of the nation’s wealth distribution; white households constitute more than 96 percent of the wealthiest Americans. Moreover, even among the nation’s wealthiest households, extreme differences persist on the basis of race:
The 99th percentile black family is worth a mere $1,574,000 while the 99th percentile white family is worth over 12 million dollars. This means over 870,000 white families have a net worth above 12 million dollars, while, out of the 20 million black families in America, fewer than 380,000 are even worth a single million dollars. By comparison, over 13 million of the total 85 million white families are millionaires or better.

Blacks, while constituting just under thirteen percent of the nation’s population, collectively own less than three percent of the nation’s total wealth.


https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-we-get-wrong.pdf
Anonymous
Did you even read the OP? A wealth gap between white people and black people.

The white household living near the poverty line typically has about $18,000 in wealth, while black households in similar economic straits typically have a median wealth near zero.

At the other end of America’s economic spectrum, black households constitute less than 2 percent of those in the top one percent of the nation’s wealth distribution; white households constitute more than 96 percent of the wealthiest Americans. Moreover, even among the nation’s wealthiest households, extreme differences persist on the basis of race:
The 99th percentile black family is worth a mere $1,574,000 while the 99th percentile white family is worth over 12 million dollars. This means over 870,000 white families have a net worth above 12 million dollars, while, out of the 20 million black families in America, fewer than 380,000 are even worth a single million dollars. By comparison, over 13 million of the total 85 million white families are millionaires or better.

Blacks, while constituting just under thirteen percent of the nation’s population, collectively own less than three percent of the nation’s total wealth.

https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-we-get-wrong.pdf


Look. Is your goal to make everything the same for everyone? Sure, there is a wealth gap. There is an education gap. There is a marriage gap. Reparations is not going to change that.
Anonymous
I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
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Did you even read the OP? A wealth gap between white people and black people.

The white household living near the poverty line typically has about $18,000 in wealth, while black households in similar economic straits typically have a median wealth near zero.

At the other end of America’s economic spectrum, black households constitute less than 2 percent of those in the top one percent of the nation’s wealth distribution; white households constitute more than 96 percent of the wealthiest Americans. Moreover, even among the nation’s wealthiest households, extreme differences persist on the basis of race:
The 99th percentile black family is worth a mere $1,574,000 while the 99th percentile white family is worth over 12 million dollars. This means over 870,000 white families have a net worth above 12 million dollars, while, out of the 20 million black families in America, fewer than 380,000 are even worth a single million dollars. By comparison, over 13 million of the total 85 million white families are millionaires or better.

Blacks, while constituting just under thirteen percent of the nation’s population, collectively own less than three percent of the nation’s total wealth.

https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-we-get-wrong.pdf


Look. Is your goal to make everything the same for everyone? Sure, there is a wealth gap. There is an education gap. There is a marriage gap. Reparations is not going to change that.


Wealth begets wealth.

An injection of wealth (reparations or other program) can help fix those other gaps.

The US has done great harm to black people. Time to fix that.

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An injection of wealth (reparations or other program) can help fix those other gaps.


There have been plenty of programs. And, there has been plenty of cash welfare.

Wealth may beget wealth, but work also begets wealth. Not for everyone, but for some. Plenty of people with inherited wealth have lost it. Look at lottery winners.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?


It's coming.

WASPies will pay for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
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