Mary Cheh has turned Cleveland Park/Cleveland Park North into her personal political asset

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I think it is fine to increase density and have affordable units as part of a mix.

What I do not favor is the city buying the Wardman and warehouse all of 'the poors" in one place as a way of solving the "ward 3" problem.

Bottom line, increasing density and spreading affordable units across the new addresses better expresses economic and probably racial diversity across the Ward as oppose to just in one place.

You are correct what the city did was wrong. They actually lessened the stock of rent controlled units with that stupid move. I am not sure that Ward 3 has a 'pr blem' though. What would that problem be exactly?

[Anonymous]

That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What are you talking about?

Glad you asked, try this from our neighbors up Conn Ave, the issues are the same, or similar.

https://anc3g.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Housing-Group-Draft-Report-11-13-20-.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What is the "share" exactly? And who established it, pray tell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What are you talking about?

Glad you asked, try this from our neighbors up Conn Ave, the issues are the same, or similar.

https://anc3g.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Housing-Group-Draft-Report-11-13-20-.pdf

That link is not relevant for Cleveland Park. So again, I’m asking what are you talking about? Can you directly answer that question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What are you talking about?

Glad you asked, try this from our neighbors up Conn Ave, the issues are the same, or similar.

https://anc3g.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Housing-Group-Draft-Report-11-13-20-.pdf

That link is not relevant for Cleveland Park. So again, I’m asking what are you talking about? Can you directly answer that question?

Replace "Chevy Chase, DC" with "Cleveland Park" and it is 100% relevant. The only difference is that the neighbors in Chevy Chase are aware enough of local history and its impact on the composition of both the residents and housing stock in the Ward to reflect on it. I take it by your response that the people of Cleveland Park would rather ignore history and simply take the trump tactics to heart.

Bravo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What is the "share" exactly? And who established it, pray tell?

The Mayor, the Council, the ANCs including 3C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What is the "share" exactly? And who established it, pray tell?

The Mayor, the Council, the ANCs including 3C.

How many units are needed until it has its share?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What are you talking about?

Glad you asked, try this from our neighbors up Conn Ave, the issues are the same, or similar.

https://anc3g.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Housing-Group-Draft-Report-11-13-20-.pdf

That link is not relevant for Cleveland Park. So again, I’m asking what are you talking about? Can you directly answer that question?

Replace "Chevy Chase, DC" with "Cleveland Park" and it is 100% relevant. The only difference is that the neighbors in Chevy Chase are aware enough of local history and its impact on the composition of both the residents and housing stock in the Ward to reflect on it. I take it by your response that the people of Cleveland Park would rather ignore history and simply take the trump tactics to heart.

Bravo.

Either you are an actual stupid person or you are grossly and disgustingly cynical to so casually throw around accusations of racism, regardless of whether it fits or not. The history of the two neighborhoods are totally different. Which makes sense because they are different neighborhoods.

You may not understand it yet, but this behavior is only hurting the cause you pretend to support.

[Anonymous]

LOL, oh really?

https://cpsmartgrowth.com/2021/03/14/excluded-from-the-start/

[Anonymous]

Got real quiet in here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That it doesn't carry close to its share of affordable housing units, partially because of the structural issues from the 20th Century, partially because of racism and partially because of hyper NIMBYism that is generally based on racism, fear of change and "I've got mine" shrouded in the term "preserving neighborhood character."

What are you talking about?

Glad you asked, try this from our neighbors up Conn Ave, the issues are the same, or similar.

https://anc3g.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Housing-Group-Draft-Report-11-13-20-.pdf

That link is not relevant for Cleveland Park. So again, I’m asking what are you talking about? Can you directly answer that question?

Replace "Chevy Chase, DC" with "Cleveland Park" and it is 100% relevant. The only difference is that the neighbors in Chevy Chase are aware enough of local history and its impact on the composition of both the residents and housing stock in the Ward to reflect on it. I take it by your response that the people of Cleveland Park would rather ignore history and simply take the trump tactics to heart.

Bravo.

Cleveland Park is being FLUMmed-up to a much higher density classification (medium density residential = 9-10 floor buildings) versus Chevy Chase DC (moderate density = 5-6 story buildings). However, unlike Chevy Chase, Cleveland Park is an historic district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I think it is fine to increase density and have affordable units as part of a mix.

What I do not favor is the city buying the Wardman and warehouse all of 'the poors" in one place as a way of solving the "ward 3" problem.

Bottom line, increasing density and spreading affordable units across the new addresses better expresses economic and probably racial diversity across the Ward as oppose to just in one place.

So-called "inclusive zoning" units, pegged at 80% AMI, are not affordable housing. And even if they were, developers would have to build 100,000 new housing units to get 8,000 IZ units. The logic of IZ makes Reagan's trickle down economic theory seem like Scandinavian socialism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, I think it is fine to increase density and have affordable units as part of a mix.

What I do not favor is the city buying the Wardman and warehouse all of 'the poors" in one place as a way of solving the "ward 3" problem.

Bottom line, increasing density and spreading affordable units across the new addresses better expresses economic and probably racial diversity across the Ward as oppose to just in one place.

Of course the Smart Growth lobby disfavors the DC government buying the Wardman. It's a very juicy, potentially highly profitable market rate development opportunity.