This woman seated between two obese people is awful but so are they for not buying the extra seat.

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Again, we switch all of the time. Except if there is no one in the middle (very rarely these days). Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?

INSANE.

I don't get this either. We're a family of 4, and when we fly to Europe the configuration is often 2-3-2. We reserve the 2 set, then take the aisle seats in teh 3-set. If a person shows up for the middle seat, we swap with them so a parent is in the middle seat, and a DD is on the aisle.

The trick is to book the last row, as the middle seat in that last row is usually the very last seat to get filled. So if you have just one open seat on the entire flight, it's likely to be that one.

Here's the issue: people who fly often know damn well that the couples/families that leave the middle seat open, more often than not, do NOT switch, and the middle person is stuck with that couple/family (usually as obnoxious as you would expect, having done that with the seats) for the duration of that trip. You can deny it all you want, but you are not me, and I have never once seen a couple/family fill/switch to the middle seat that they hoped would stay open. But there is an unstable poster upthread who insists on name calling, because it is clear she has been name called all her life. What it comes down to is that your problem is not my problem. Neither party was right. Let's leave it at that.

If you don't want to sit in between people PAY FOR YOUR OWN GD SEAT. I don't understand why you think you are entitled to a premium seat you didn't pay for when other people did. Taking weight entirely out of the equation, if they aren't in your seat then you have no say in the matter. If you want an edge, pay for an edge like the rest of us did.

We seemed to have touched a nerve.

You are not entitled to a free seat. You didn't "pay" for anything.

I'm not asking for a free seat. If you sit between my husband and I we will happily tolerate your presence. Once again, headphones in, eyes closed. You seem to want one of us to move because you feel entitled to a free aisle or window seat.

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Did the people in that row have their armrests down? I believe the airline requires that you be able to fit in the seat, with armrests down, or you need to buy an extra seat.

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Again, we switch all of the time. Except if there is no one in the middle (very rarely these days). Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?

INSANE.

I don't get this either. We're a family of 4, and when we fly to Europe the configuration is often 2-3-2. We reserve the 2 set, then take the aisle seats in teh 3-set. If a person shows up for the middle seat, we swap with them so a parent is in the middle seat, and a DD is on the aisle.

The trick is to book the last row, as the middle seat in that last row is usually the very last seat to get filled. So if you have just one open seat on the entire flight, it's likely to be that one.

Here's the issue: people who fly often know damn well that the couples/families that leave the middle seat open, more often than not, do NOT switch, and the middle person is stuck with that couple/family (usually as obnoxious as you would expect, having done that with the seats) for the duration of that trip. You can deny it all you want, but you are not me, and I have never once seen a couple/family fill/switch to the middle seat that they hoped would stay open. But there is an unstable poster upthread who insists on name calling, because it is clear she has been name called all her life. What it comes down to is that your problem is not my problem. Neither party was right. Let's leave it at that.

If you don't want to sit in between people PAY FOR YOUR OWN GD SEAT. I don't understand why you think you are entitled to a premium seat you didn't pay for when other people did. Taking weight entirely out of the equation, if they aren't in your seat then you have no say in the matter. If you want an edge, pay for an edge like the rest of us did.

We seemed to have touched a nerve.

You are not entitled to a free seat. You didn't "pay" for anything.

I'm not asking for a free seat. If you sit between my husband and I we will happily tolerate your presence. Once again, headphones in, eyes closed. You seem to want one of us to move because you feel entitled to a free aisle or window seat.

HAHAHAHAHA - are you the poster that thinks that booking two end seats, then NOT getting the middle seat to yourself, gives you an "edge" in life that you allegedly "paid" for? Because this just gets better......please tell us about your other edges in life, you really do sound like you have so, so many (that getting the end seats are so important to you). No really, this sounds like the epitome of winning......tell us more.........

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Holla.

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It is difficult to tell with the woman because of the angle of the video but the man clearly has his armrest down. I believe the woman does as well because I think you would see it between the seats but her arm is right about the height that it would be so can't say for certain

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All I know is when I see an outsized lady with a undersized gent, I'm thinking, "damn, her parents LOADED!".

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Again, we switch all of the time. Except if there is no one in the middle (very rarely these days). Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?

INSANE.

I don't get this either. We're a family of 4, and when we fly to Europe the configuration is often 2-3-2. We reserve the 2 set, then take the aisle seats in teh 3-set. If a person shows up for the middle seat, we swap with them so a parent is in the middle seat, and a DD is on the aisle.

The trick is to book the last row, as the middle seat in that last row is usually the very last seat to get filled. So if you have just one open seat on the entire flight, it's likely to be that one.

Here's the issue: people who fly often know damn well that the couples/families that leave the middle seat open, more often than not, do NOT switch, and the middle person is stuck with that couple/family (usually as obnoxious as you would expect, having done that with the seats) for the duration of that trip. You can deny it all you want, but you are not me, and I have never once seen a couple/family fill/switch to the middle seat that they hoped would stay open. But there is an unstable poster upthread who insists on name calling, because it is clear she has been name called all her life. What it comes down to is that your problem is not my problem. Neither party was right. Let's leave it at that.

If you don't want to sit in between people PAY FOR YOUR OWN GD SEAT. I don't understand why you think you are entitled to a premium seat you didn't pay for when other people did. Taking weight entirely out of the equation, if they aren't in your seat then you have no say in the matter. If you want an edge, pay for an edge like the rest of us did.

We seemed to have touched a nerve.

You are not entitled to a free seat. You didn't "pay" for anything.

I'm not asking for a free seat. If you sit between my husband and I we will happily tolerate your presence. Once again, headphones in, eyes closed. You seem to want one of us to move because you feel entitled to a free aisle or window seat.

HAHAHAHAHA - are you the poster that thinks that booking two end seats, then NOT getting the middle seat to yourself, gives you an "edge" in life that you allegedly "paid" for? Because this just gets better......please tell us about your other edges in life, you really do sound like you have so, so many (that getting the end seats are so important to you). No really, this sounds like the epitome of winning......tell us more.........

I have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't say it gave me an edge. I said that we were both more comfortable on the edges of the seat row and willing to pay for that comfort. Something you apparently are not willing to pay for but expect to be given by other passengers who were.

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the airline. I fly a lot and it is really annoying when someone takes part of the small (and getting smaller all of the time) the airline gives to "customers". Blast United not the lady.

The women had a lot of options and chose to act like a raging b1tch. Her behavior is 100% on her.

What were her options?

I can only think of two:

1. Sit down and be in a dangerous and uncomfortable position for several hours.
2. Get off the plane and not go to where ever she was headed.

TWO doesn't seem like "a lot of options" to me, especially when both are punitive to her, and she did nothing wrong.

Uh, she could have asked the flight attendants nicely instead of making a scene. She could have nicely asked them to switch.

How on earth was she in a DANGEROUS position?

You sit there, if it's not dangerous. If there is turbulence, the person in the middle is very much in danger, with two 400 pound objects leaning into her. Didn't you have a basic physics course? Never mind, we know the answer.

I guarantee that I’ve taken more physics classes that you have.

Unless someone is unbuckled she is perfectly safe there. If anything she is SAFER because they would block some projectiles from hitting her.

Doubtful. You obviously do not fly that much. Thank you for proving my point.

Almost certainly. And we fly quite often.

So explain it - what causes injuries during turbulence? Do you have any idea?

Why should anyone enlighten you?

I have pilots and physics professors in my family. That is actually valuable. Unlike people who post smiley faces on the internet.

Ok. So you know people who understand physics. Alrighty. I have certainly taken more physics classes than you.

Since it’s clear that you are clueless, the biggest risk during turbulence is either getting hit by a projectile or becoming a projectile. Assuming everyone has their seatbelts buckled, like they should, then this woman was arguably SAFER between two larger people. Their larger surface area makes them larger, and therefore more likely, targets for projectiles. They would potentially block projectiles that may have otherwise hit her. She should have be thanking them.

Go ask your family members to confirm. I’ll wait.

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Good customer service means making all your customers welcome. Airlines could:

- have some bigger seats that are more expensive but aren't double the price of others.
- be clear about seat sizes and distance between seats in the coming process
- dont move or rebook people who have chosen a bigger seat for this reason
- dont give away extra seats that are purchased for this reason
- don't overbook flights
- don't charge extra for seat selection

They already have a lot of that and/or it won't address the problem.

If you want a bigger seat, pay for first class. I travel a lot for work but I know my trip plans many months in advance. First class, when bought far ahead, is the same price as buying economy class a month or two ahead.

Seat sizes are easily found on seatguru.com and the airline's website. It's not hidden at all.

Seat selection is a value to customers.. they should charge for it if people are willing to pay. Besides, that won't solve the issue if 2 large people traveling together choose to sit in the same row/section.

I agree airlines shouldnt' give away extra seats -- I didn't realize this was so common.

The issue is the two larger adults clearly planned this to either get an empty middle seat or let someone else have the space burden. They should have picked two seats together instead of selfishly putting a stranger in the middle of them. I would have been pissed. I've had it happen and its miserable. She should have handled it better asking for a seat change, but most likely there were not any extra seats. The larger folks should should have put her on the isle and taken the window and middle.

I bet they at least know how to spell aisle since they were clever enough to go for this seat strategy.

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My DH and I do this all of the time. Why would you intentionally sit in a middle seat? If the middle seat gets taken then you can switch but if you book a middle seat you will definitely have a middle seat.

- frequent flyers, not obese

Its rude, you take two seats next to each other. No one wants to sit in the middle of your conversation, you handing things back and forth, etc. I have no issue with a middle seat but I don't want you touching me nor do I want to hear your conversations or stuff being passed back and forth.

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I don't want to hear how great you think you are (for the duration of the trip), you are not. Not only that, you don't take the middle seat because you want to stuff someone in there like it is some sort of pathetic victory in your pathetic life. Don't pretend you "will take the middle seat" - because we all know that neither one of you want to sit next to each any more than any other flier. Besides, I don't want to so much as smell the two of you. People like you are trying to ruin it for everyone else, and trying to make your problem our problem. You don't belong on an airplane, at all. Second PP nailed it - this is the type of couple that fawns over itself and tries to act like there is someone in the way, when that is how the idiot couple booked their own flight. You know the middle seat is going to be sold, just take it. You probably have separate bedrooms and bathrooms to avoid touching or smelling each other -- WTH would I want to?

Huh? We almost always swap out if someone is in the middle seat. Why on earth do you think we don’t belong on an airplane? You don’t want to “smell” us? LOL. You are INSANE.

Not as insane as you, who refuses to sit next to their own spouse AND tries to commandeer an extra seat for free! No way are you switching seats, don't lie. We have all been on the plane with a couple exactly like you. You can tell your husband what to do, but not fellow passengers.

Again, we switch all of the time. Except if there is no one in the middle (very rarely these days). Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?

INSANE.

We get it, you like that word, and have probably been called it more than a few times in your years. It's okay. It's not a personal attack on you. I do enjoy all of your smiles, though. Try to manage some IRL.

If the shoe fits. That behavior is not acceptable. To argue otherwise is quite....unhealthy. And to go on about how I smell and my relationship with my DH is just....odd. Do you have mental health issues? It’s ok to admit it these days.

I smile often, thanks.

Why yes, I have tourette's, you just diagnosed me. Do you have alzheimer's?

Uh. I didn’t write that. Are you having trouble keeping up on the internets today?

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Again, we switch all of the time. Except if there is no one in the middle (very rarely these days). Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?

INSANE.

I don't get this either. We're a family of 4, and when we fly to Europe the configuration is often 2-3-2. We reserve the 2 set, then take the aisle seats in teh 3-set. If a person shows up for the middle seat, we swap with them so a parent is in the middle seat, and a DD is on the aisle.

The trick is to book the last row, as the middle seat in that last row is usually the very last seat to get filled. So if you have just one open seat on the entire flight, it's likely to be that one.

Exactly. We usually book towards the back of the plane, but a few rows away from the toilets, to minimize chance of getting a middle person.

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Again, we switch all of the time. Except if there is no one in the middle (very rarely these days). Why is that a hard concept for you to grasp?

INSANE.

I don't get this either. We're a family of 4, and when we fly to Europe the configuration is often 2-3-2. We reserve the 2 set, then take the aisle seats in teh 3-set. If a person shows up for the middle seat, we swap with them so a parent is in the middle seat, and a DD is on the aisle.

The trick is to book the last row, as the middle seat in that last row is usually the very last seat to get filled. So if you have just one open seat on the entire flight, it's likely to be that one.

Here's the issue: people who fly often know damn well that the couples/families that leave the middle seat open, more often than not, do NOT switch, and the middle person is stuck with that couple/family (usually as obnoxious as you would expect, having done that with the seats) for the duration of that trip. You can deny it all you want, but you are not me, and I have never once seen a couple/family fill/switch to the middle seat that they hoped would stay open. But there is an unstable poster upthread who insists on name calling, because it is clear she has been name called all her life. What it comes down to is that your problem is not my problem. Neither party was right. Let's leave it at that.

Wrong. That couple - or anyone - can book whatever seats they like. Heck, they don’t even have to swap if a middle person comes (though many do). That doesn’t excuse the raging bitch’s behavior at all. It’s 100% on her.

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the airline. I fly a lot and it is really annoying when someone takes part of the small (and getting smaller all of the time) the airline gives to "customers". Blast United not the lady.

The women had a lot of options and chose to act like a raging b1tch. Her behavior is 100% on her.

What were her options?

I can only think of two:

1. Sit down and be in a dangerous and uncomfortable position for several hours.
2. Get off the plane and not go to where ever she was headed.

TWO doesn't seem like "a lot of options" to me, especially when both are punitive to her, and she did nothing wrong.

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That is the point. The blonde woman did nothing wrong. The large couple's behavior should not be condoned by the airline, or any individual. Neither party handled it properly, but let's look at the actual facts.

She was 100% wrong. People who are not assholes or have some kind of mental illness don’t act like that.

Not 100% -- I am not agreeing with what she did. I am saying (read carefully now) that she was put in a bad situation, through no fault of her own, the other party clearly wanted to make their issue her issue (I am somehow certain you are familiar with this approach), and that the woman likely (based on her behavior - once again, I am not condoning it) did not realize she had options. We are not here to fat shame you, so you can stop with the annoying memes now. Do you know how not to be annoying?

You certainly don't. You are absolutely fat shaming BTW. I don't know why you think you're fat shaming ME, you don't know me or know what I look like. I am not someone who would be mocked on an airplane for being too fat to sit next to.

Doubtful. You already ruined your own credibility. Good job.

You are seriously cuckoo lady/dude/whatever. I hope you realize that spewing this venom on the internet can ruin people's lives. To you you're just having some lunatic tourrette's moment where your rage at airline travel emerges. But there probably IS a 300 pound person reading this thread somewhere, and the message they are getting from people like you are that they are sub human. It is revolting and you should be ashamed of yourself. I would never conduct myself in a way where my actions made an entire group of people feel like they were worth less than me, because they are not less than me. No group of people are less than any other group of people.

And that is what the woman did that was wrong, she acted like those people's emotions were less valuable/valid/important than hers. She could have quietly handled the situation, she CHOSE to make sure they knew she found them disgusting. That is being a cruel and selfish bully and the kind that we need to reject as a society.

Exactly. Cuckoo PP is as much of a bully as the blonde.

Because she is the one that is name calling? Got it. You are great at deflection. I can see why you are so "happy"????

Don’t act like a bully/cuckoo/insane person if you don’t want to get called out for it.

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I am so glad the couple videotaped themselves, so we could hear them cussing. LOL.

All well-earned by the blonde.

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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy for the obese tricksters. I don't care if they are Black. Their race had nothing to do with the incident.

How in the heck do you come up with them being tricksters????
How????????
Who did they trick ?

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How long is the longest thread on DCUM?