Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'

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Anonymous wrote:And now Kelly jumps in publicly.

Sounds like Kelly tried to prep Trump for the call and remind him that Johnson was doing what he wanted to do when he died, and Trump kind of botched the execution in a big way. Not sure why he's complaining about the Congresswoman though. She was there, and has a right to say how Trump's insensitive words were interpreted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65972443&pgtype=article

I'm sure that NY Times article gave it its typical anti-Trump spin, so I'm not bothering. I listened first-hand to Kelly just now, and he was terrific. He explained how other presidents, including Obama, never bothered with phone calls, but that Trump wanted to reach out personally. Kelly explained what Trump meant (I acknowledge Trump is not always the best communicator), as well as his dismay (he said he was "stunned") by that hat-lady Congresswoman. And it's true that Trump may have bungled the message somewhat, but does that it any way sink to the despicable words of Hillary as she lied to the grieving parents of the Benghazi victims, the deaths of whom she was responsible for, given her refusal to provided requested security? The fact that liberals think the Trump phone call comes even CLOSE to the despicable lie of Hillary's disgusts me.

It truly is despicable - no, make that DEPLORABLE - how the liberals take a sacred moment, a phone call from the president to a grieving war widow - and twist it around for political points.

(There was something that Kelly said that literally brought tears to my eyes. He said that he was so stunned by what the Congresswoman was doing that he decided to take a walk among the most honorable men and women on Earth, and he can always find them. He went to Arlington National Cemetery. )

I'm sorry, do you live in a monarchy? Nothing the president does is sacred. You know what's a sacred moment? A mother crying for her dead child. A wife crying for her dead husband. A little child crying for the dad she or he will never see again. And if whatever Trump told that soldier's family left his mother feeling disrespected...then guess what? There was nothing sacred in whatever he did.

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That's not true. We have Trump supporters outlining all the positives - a roaring stock market, lowest jobless claims since 1973 (!), a pronounced decrease in illegal crossings, high consumer confidence, his work with Veterans Affairs, the Keystone pipeline, on and on, and the liberals just come on here and say "not true." It is clear that liberals have had hatred so bred into them that that will not acknowledge a single thing that Trump has done correctly. As soon as I hear a liberal say, "he has done nothing right," I know I'm dealing with someone so incapable of objective thinking that I usually disengage at that point.

Well, let's revisit the list again.

Roaring stock market: yes and it has been going up for many years under policies from the previous administration. The recent pop is under the promise of tax cuts. Most Americans do no benefit directly or indirectly from a roaring stock market. Just yesterday, the Treasury Secretary said the market would crash without passing tax cuts.

Jobless claims - again, this trend has been positive for several years (despite the injection from Trump that the numbers were fake under the previous administration)

Illegal crossings - again, these have been down for years. Most illegals are here on expired visas.

High consumer confidence: someone posted a chart earlier that debunks this.

Veterans Affairs: This is an Obama holdover and an Obama policy

Keystone: Yes, using Russian Steel is great. How does Keystone benefit the US either directly or indirectly, particularly when Renewables account for more jobs than coal and have less negative impact on the environment?

and on and on.

Please, let's debate this rather than asserting wins and then claiming I am posting half truths.

Ok, I get it. You don't see Trump's positives because, well, he's Trump.

I am quickly getting exasperated with the liberal mindset here but I'll give you a couple of examples. One, the border crossings were down, but the pace has picked up - signicantly - since. Trump. Two, the roaring stock market helps fully HAlf of Americans, who own stocks indirectly through 401ks. This is a nice relief to this group, many of whom are suffering under Obamacare. I can't do any more. You liberals are making my stomach hurt with all your hatred toward an American president (and his voters).

And if one more of you childish liberals calls him Cheeto or Orange Idiot again, I'll scream. You are wearing us down. Pretty soon, you will have exasperated us so much that we'll leave you to your little bubble here, where you can convince yourself how right you are. And you will continue to believe that delusion, all the way up to Election Day 2020.

OK, dinner awaits. Some other conservatives can take this up. I'm pretty much soent.

I hope you didn't let the door hit you on your way out.

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That's not true. We have Trump supporters outlining all the positives - a roaring stock market, lowest jobless claims since 1973 (!), a pronounced decrease in illegal crossings, high consumer confidence, his work with Veterans Affairs, the Keystone pipeline, on and on, and the liberals just come on here and say "not true." It is clear that liberals have had hatred so bred into them that that will not acknowledge a single thing that Trump has done correctly. As soon as I hear a liberal say, "he has done nothing right," I know I'm dealing with someone so incapable of objective thinking that I usually disengage at that point.

Well, let's revisit the list again.

Roaring stock market: yes and it has been going up for many years under policies from the previous administration. The recent pop is under the promise of tax cuts. Most Americans do no benefit directly or indirectly from a roaring stock market. Just yesterday, the Treasury Secretary said the market would crash without passing tax cuts.

Jobless claims - again, this trend has been positive for several years (despite the injection from Trump that the numbers were fake under the previous administration)

Illegal crossings - again, these have been down for years. Most illegals are here on expired visas.

High consumer confidence: someone posted a chart earlier that debunks this.

Veterans Affairs: This is an Obama holdover and an Obama policy

Keystone: Yes, using Russian Steel is great. How does Keystone benefit the US either directly or indirectly, particularly when Renewables account for more jobs than coal and have less negative impact on the environment?

and on and on.

Please, let's debate this rather than asserting wins and then claiming I am posting half truths.

Ok, I get it. You don't see Trump's positives because, well, he's Trump.

I am quickly getting exasperated with the liberal mindset here but I'll give you a couple of examples. One, the border crossings were down, but the pace has picked up - signicantly - since. Trump. Two, the roaring stock market helps fully HAlf of Americans, who own stocks indirectly through 401ks. This is a nice relief to this group, many of whom are suffering under Obamacare. I can't do any more. You liberals are making my stomach hurt with all your hatred toward an American president (and his voters).

And if one more of you childish liberals calls him Cheeto or Orange Idiot again, I'll scream. You are wearing us down. Pretty soon, you will have exasperated us so much that we'll leave you to your little bubble here, where you can convince yourself how right you are. And you will continue to believe that delusion, all the way up to Election Day 2020.

OK, dinner awaits. Some other conservatives can take this up. I'm pretty much soent.

I hope you didn't let the door hit you on your way out.

Yup. the liberals silenced another one.

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No, a flamboyant Congresswoman made it public. A private phone call. She just couldn’t help herself.

A congresswoman who was basically "an aunt" to the soldier and is very close to him and his family. No one has disputed what was said and Trump is the one who raised it.

Were you this outraged when Patricia Smith addressed the RNC in Cleveland last year?

Where in the heck did you hear that?

Pretty soon they'll be insisting that she was like a second mother to him.

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Anonymous wrote:And now Kelly jumps in publicly.

Sounds like Kelly tried to prep Trump for the call and remind him that Johnson was doing what he wanted to do when he died, and Trump kind of botched the execution in a big way. Not sure why he's complaining about the Congresswoman though. She was there, and has a right to say how Trump's insensitive words were interpreted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65972443&pgtype=article

Why is he complaining about the Congresswoman?
It was horribly insensitive and tactless of her to go public with the phone call. She politicized it. It was a private call and it was not her place to make it public.
If anyone knows... he does. He has been there - or didn’t you know he had a son killed in Afghanistan?

Yes, that fact had not escaped me. I bet no one said to Kelly: "your son knew what he signed up for."

Not in those exact words, but the meaning was the same: "Your son chose to sign up....WANTED to defend his country.....and died surrounded by his best friends, and doing exactly what he wanted to do." In the meantime, all this is a diversionary tactic to hide the successful operation in Syria. (And imagine how much worse the widow feels, with the Congresswoman creating a circus around this. FOR SHAME!!)

And if Trump had said those words in that way, maybe he wouldn't have made a widow who was 6 months pregnant cry. He's not good at empathy and should stop doing these calls.

First people were mad that he wasn't doing the calls. Now they're mad that he is. I don't like the guy, but it's clear the press and the establishment has an anti-Trump agenda.

How often have we heard about Trump not promptly fulfilling his promise to give $25k to a gold star family? Yet, when Obama promised money to the family of an American killed by ISIS and subsequently forgot to pay up, it was barely a blip on the radar.

http://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/us-hostage-kayla-muellers-foundation-finally-receives-obama/story?id=43215918

I was willing to engage until you brought up the "go-to strategy" of comparing him to Obama. He is not Obama and he should be forced to stand on his own and be accoutable on his own. I do not criticize him based on what Obama so I always cringe when people defend him with "What about Obama..." It is like Trump and his supporters are more obsessed with him than Obama supporters ever were. And that obsession is not good for our country.

DP, but it is very valid to point out that liberals are criticizing Trump for the very things that they were fine with when Obama did them.

No it isn't if that is the ONLY way you can defend Trump. I understand that this is a liberal biased forum and as an independent, it gets to me sometimes. But most of the liberals talks about Trump's shortcomings. Most of the people defending him always resort to the "but Obama did...." If you think Trump's conduct is valid, it should be easy to defend them based on their merits. TBH, I get the sense that many of the Trump folks are new here. Because when Obama was POTUS, liberals here would often criticize his missteps. Even among liberals here, there was not a universal "he can do no wrong" sense that you get among Trump supporters now.

That's not true. We have Trump supporters outlining all the positives - a roaring stock market, lowest jobless claims since 1973 (!), a pronounced decrease in illegal crossings, high consumer confidence, his work with Veterans Affairs, the Keystone pipeline, on and on, and the liberals just come on here and say "not true." It is clear that liberals have had hatred so bred into them that that will not acknowledge a single thing that Trump has done correctly. As soon as I hear a liberal say, "he has done nothing right," I know I'm dealing with someone so incapable of objective thinking that I usually disengage at that point.

Well, at least one PP asked what Trump specifically had done to effectuate any of the things you listed given that some of the things are continuing a trend from the last administration. I have yet to see a good answer. So I guess if you want Trump to the credit you think he deserves, you should answer that question.

You people are exhausting! We had more than one person answer the question with a list of several positives that Trump brought about. But you libs are unable to process even a single positive thing. You are too determined to believe that nothing Trump does is good.

I am the one who asked the question and I am not a liberal. I specifically asked what Trump had done to bring about these positives. What policies or legislation can you point to? It is not a trick question. But I guess it says a lot when you just regress to an attack on liberals instead of answering the question.

And I specifically told you. But you did not like what I saw as positives or else wrongly credited Obama (assuming you were the one). I'm not going through the list again. Maybe another day when my back doesn't hurt. (Not related, but I'm having a painful day.)

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Anonymous wrote:And now Kelly jumps in publicly.

Sounds like Kelly tried to prep Trump for the call and remind him that Johnson was doing what he wanted to do when he died, and Trump kind of botched the execution in a big way. Not sure why he's complaining about the Congresswoman though. She was there, and has a right to say how Trump's insensitive words were interpreted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65972443&pgtype=article

Why is he complaining about the Congresswoman?
It was horribly insensitive and tactless of her to go public with the phone call. She politicized it. It was a private call and it was not her place to make it public.
If anyone knows... he does. He has been there - or didn’t you know he had a son killed in Afghanistan?

Yes, that fact had not escaped me. I bet no one said to Kelly: "your son knew what he signed up for."

Not in those exact words, but the meaning was the same: "Your son chose to sign up....WANTED to defend his country.....and died surrounded by his best friends, and doing exactly what he wanted to do." In the meantime, all this is a diversionary tactic to hide the successful operation in Syria. (And imagine how much worse the widow feels, with the Congresswoman creating a circus around this. FOR SHAME!!)

And if Trump had said those words in that way, maybe he wouldn't have made a widow who was 6 months pregnant cry. He's not good at empathy and should stop doing these calls.

First people were mad that he wasn't doing the calls. Now they're mad that he is. I don't like the guy, but it's clear the press and the establishment has an anti-Trump agenda.

How often have we heard about Trump not promptly fulfilling his promise to give $25k to a gold star family? Yet, when Obama promised money to the family of an American killed by ISIS and subsequently forgot to pay up, it was barely a blip on the radar.

http://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/us-hostage-kayla-muellers-foundation-finally-receives-obama/story?id=43215918

I was willing to engage until you brought up the "go-to strategy" of comparing him to Obama. He is not Obama and he should be forced to stand on his own and be accoutable on his own. I do not criticize him based on what Obama so I always cringe when people defend him with "What about Obama..." It is like Trump and his supporters are more obsessed with him than Obama supporters ever were. And that obsession is not good for our country.

DP, but it is very valid to point out that liberals are criticizing Trump for the very things that they were fine with when Obama did them.

No it isn't if that is the ONLY way you can defend Trump. I understand that this is a liberal biased forum and as an independent, it gets to me sometimes. But most of the liberals talks about Trump's shortcomings. Most of the people defending him always resort to the "but Obama did...." If you think Trump's conduct is valid, it should be easy to defend them based on their merits. TBH, I get the sense that many of the Trump folks are new here. Because when Obama was POTUS, liberals here would often criticize his missteps. Even among liberals here, there was not a universal "he can do no wrong" sense that you get among Trump supporters now.

That's not true. We have Trump supporters outlining all the positives - a roaring stock market, lowest jobless claims since 1973 (!), a pronounced decrease in illegal crossings, high consumer confidence, his work with Veterans Affairs, the Keystone pipeline, on and on, and the liberals just come on here and say "not true." It is clear that liberals have had hatred so bred into them that that will not acknowledge a single thing that Trump has done correctly. As soon as I hear a liberal say, "he has done nothing right," I know I'm dealing with someone so incapable of objective thinking that I usually disengage at that point.

Well, at least one PP asked what Trump specifically had done to effectuate any of the things you listed given that some of the things are continuing a trend from the last administration. I have yet to see a good answer. So I guess if you want Trump to the credit you think he deserves, you should answer that question.

You people are exhausting! We had more than one person answer the question with a list of several positives that Trump brought about. But you libs are unable to process even a single positive thing. You are too determined to believe that nothing Trump does is good.

I am the one who asked the question and I am not a liberal. I specifically asked what Trump had done to bring about these positives. What policies or legislation can you point to? It is not a trick question. But I guess it says a lot when you just regress to an attack on liberals instead of answering the question.

And I specifically told you. But you did not like what I saw as positives or else wrongly credited Obama (assuming you were the one). I'm not going through the list again. Maybe another day when my back doesn't hurt. (Not related, but I'm having a painful day.)

I'm curious...do you attribute ANY positives to Obama?

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That's not true. We have Trump supporters outlining all the positives - a roaring stock market, lowest jobless claims since 1973 (!), a pronounced decrease in illegal crossings, high consumer confidence, his work with Veterans Affairs, the Keystone pipeline, on and on, and the liberals just come on here and say "not true." It is clear that liberals have had hatred so bred into them that that will not acknowledge a single thing that Trump has done correctly. As soon as I hear a liberal say, "he has done nothing right," I know I'm dealing with someone so incapable of objective thinking that I usually disengage at that point.

Well, let's revisit the list again.

Roaring stock market: yes and it has been going up for many years under policies from the previous administration. The recent pop is under the promise of tax cuts. Most Americans do no benefit directly or indirectly from a roaring stock market. Just yesterday, the Treasury Secretary said the market would crash without passing tax cuts.

Jobless claims - again, this trend has been positive for several years (despite the injection from Trump that the numbers were fake under the previous administration)

Illegal crossings - again, these have been down for years. Most illegals are here on expired visas.

High consumer confidence: someone posted a chart earlier that debunks this.

Veterans Affairs: This is an Obama holdover and an Obama policy

Keystone: Yes, using Russian Steel is great. How does Keystone benefit the US either directly or indirectly, particularly when Renewables account for more jobs than coal and have less negative impact on the environment?

and on and on.

Please, let's debate this rather than asserting wins and then claiming I am posting half truths.

Ok, I get it. You don't see Trump's positives because, well, he's Trump.

I am quickly getting exasperated with the liberal mindset here but I'll give you a couple of examples. One, the border crossings were down, but the pace has picked up - signicantly - since. Trump. Two, the roaring stock market helps fully HAlf of Americans, who own stocks indirectly through 401ks. This is a nice relief to this group, many of whom are suffering under Obamacare. I can't do any more. You liberals are making my stomach hurt with all your hatred toward an American president (and his voters).

And if one more of you childish liberals calls him Cheeto or Orange Idiot again, I'll scream. You are wearing us down. Pretty soon, you will have exasperated us so much that we'll leave you to your little bubble here, where you can convince yourself how right you are. And you will continue to believe that delusion, all the way up to Election Day 2020.

OK, dinner awaits. Some other conservatives can take this up. I'm pretty much soent.

I hope you didn't let the door hit you on your way out.

Yup. the liberals silenced another sensitive snowflake who doesn't dwell in reality with their reality p-based arguments.

FTFY

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" I thought at least that was sacred,” Mr. Kelly said, expressing dismay at other aspects of society that were no longer sacred, including women, religion and Gold Star families.


Does Kelly not realize he's working for someone who brags about grabbing pussies and spent last summer attacking a Gold Star family? If these things are no longer sacred, he bears a part in it through his role as chief of the adult daycare.

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" I thought at least that was sacred,” Mr. Kelly said, expressing dismay at other aspects of society that were no longer sacred, including women, religion and Gold Star families.


Does Kelly not realize he's working for someone who brags about grabbing pussies and spent last summer attacking a Gold Star family? If these things are no longer sacred, he bears a part in it through his role as chief of the adult daycare.

+1

That's what I'm saying!

"When I was a kid, women were sacred and looked upon in great honor," indeed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And now Kelly jumps in publicly.

Sounds like Kelly tried to prep Trump for the call and remind him that Johnson was doing what he wanted to do when he died, and Trump kind of botched the execution in a big way. Not sure why he's complaining about the Congresswoman though. She was there, and has a right to say how Trump's insensitive words were interpreted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/john-kelly-son-trump.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65972443&pgtype=article

I'm sure that NY Times article gave it its typical anti-Trump spin, so I'm not bothering. I listened first-hand to Kelly just now, and he was terrific. He explained how other presidents, including Obama, never bothered with phone calls, but that Trump wanted to reach out personally. Kelly explained what Trump meant (I acknowledge Trump is not always the best communicator), as well as his dismay (he said he was "stunned") by that hat-lady Congresswoman. And it's true that Trump may have bungled the message somewhat, but does that it any way sink to the despicable words of Hillary as she lied to the grieving parents of the Benghazi victims, the deaths of whom she was responsible for, given her refusal to provided requested security? The fact that liberals think the Trump phone call comes even CLOSE to the despicable lie of Hillary's disgusts me.

It truly is despicable - no, make that DEPLORABLE - how the liberals take a sacred moment, a phone call from the president to a grieving war widow - and twist it around for political points.

(There was something that Kelly said that literally brought tears to my eyes. He said that he was so stunned by what the Congresswoman was doing that he decided to take a walk among the most honorable men and women on Earth, and he can always find them. He went to Arlington National Cemetery. )

I'm sorry, do you live in a monarchy? Nothing the president does is sacred. You know what's a sacred moment? A mother crying for her dead child. A wife crying for her dead husband. A little child crying for the dad she or he will never see again. And if whatever Trump told that soldier's family left his mother feeling disrespected...then guess what? There was nothing sacred in whatever he did.

I’m sure Kelly was overcome with relief at Arlington because he knows he will never find Trump there

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" I thought at least that was sacred,” Mr. Kelly said, expressing dismay at other aspects of society that were no longer sacred, including women, religion and Gold Star families.


Does Kelly not realize he's working for someone who brags about grabbing pussies and spent last summer attacking a Gold Star family? If these things are no longer sacred, he bears a part in it through his role as chief of the adult daycare.

+1

That's what I'm saying!

"When I was a kid, women were sacred and looked upon in great honor," indeed.

As much as I can respect Kelly's tremendous loss, this quote makes me cringe. Women are not "sacred" - we are human beings just like men and need to be respected as such, not put on a pedestal. Back when he was a kid women were looked upon with such great honor they weren't allowed into most professions, made a quarter of what men did, had fewer rights (not being able to get a loan by themselves, for example), and had to deal with as much sexual harassment as they do today. I hate that sort of nostalgic look back at a time when only white men with money were fully able to enjoy all the rights the constitution gives us.

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" I thought at least that was sacred,” Mr. Kelly said, expressing dismay at other aspects of society that were no longer sacred, including women, religion and Gold Star families.


Does Kelly not realize he's working for someone who brags about grabbing pussies and spent last summer attacking a Gold Star family? If these things are no longer sacred, he bears a part in it through his role as chief of the adult daycare.

+1

That's what I'm saying!

"When I was a kid, women were sacred and looked upon in great honor," indeed.

As much as I can respect Kelly's tremendous loss, this quote makes me cringe. Women are not "sacred" - we are human beings just like men and need to be respected as such, not put on a pedestal. Back when he was a kid women were looked upon with such great honor they weren't allowed into most professions, made a quarter of what men did, had fewer rights (not being able to get a loan by themselves, for example), and had to deal with as much sexual harassment as they do today. I hate that sort of nostalgic look back at a time when only white men with money were fully able to enjoy all the rights the constitution gives us.

We women have to potential to carry and birth a child.

Men just can't, so no, we aren't the same.

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Give it time. Dems thought W was the devil incarnate when he was president, and now many of them are big fans.

While W made mistakes during his Administration, at no time did I ever fear for the future of our country because he was selling it out to foreign advisories.

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" I thought at least that was sacred,” Mr. Kelly said, expressing dismay at other aspects of society that were no longer sacred, including women, religion and Gold Star families.


Does Kelly not realize he's working for someone who brags about grabbing pussies and spent last summer attacking a Gold Star family? If these things are no longer sacred, he bears a part in it through his role as chief of the adult daycare.

+1

That's what I'm saying!

"When I was a kid, women were sacred and looked upon in great honor," indeed.

As much as I can respect Kelly's tremendous loss, this quote makes me cringe. Women are not "sacred" - we are human beings just like men and need to be respected as such, not put on a pedestal. Back when he was a kid women were looked upon with such great honor they weren't allowed into most professions, made a quarter of what men did, had fewer rights (not being able to get a loan by themselves, for example), and had to deal with as much sexual harassment as they do today. I hate that sort of nostalgic look back at a time when only white men with money were fully able to enjoy all the rights the constitution gives us.

We women have to potential to carry and birth a child.

Men just can't, so no, we aren't the same.

*the potential
That's what he probably meant by "sacred".

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And I specifically told you. But you did not like what I saw as positives or else wrongly credited Obama (assuming you were the one). I'm not going through the list again. Maybe another day when my back doesn't hurt. (Not related, but I'm having a painful day.)

Please link the post. So far, there has just been word salad of things that have happened over the past 9 months, but none of it, other than Keystone, is a direct result of anything Trump did.