Sound off if you think AAP is BS

[Anonymous]

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A faulty analogy... I can see where you're going, but travel soccer is not public school. For one, it's optional and with few exceptions, kids are paying much more to play travel. Public school is taxpayer funded and a requirement for all. This makes the question of who is getting better resources in public school much more of an issue since resources are finite and must be shared.

This is precisely it. The travel soccer analogy is so tired, overused, and INACCURATE. Travel sports are privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don't care how kids are picked or sorted for privately funded activities. But I do care very much how my public tax dollars are being spent. I'm happy to spend them on services for special needs kids. But that's not what AAP is.

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Sports is a suitable analogy in response to the constantly off-key "my kid is marginalized!" shrieking. The private/public distinction is just an excuse to sidestep it. Go explain it to the taxpayers who don't even have kids. Crying about the significance of tax dollars just shows you don't know how government actually works.

No, actually it's not a suitable analogy at all. One is privately funded, the other is not. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

The thing is - the big complaints are not about funding or money - its about "my child feels bad" or "I feel bad" because my kids isn't in the higher group. AAP kids use the same facilities, the same resources- can you put a number on cost? Don't think so, its not about cost.

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1960 My child feels "bad" because they have to ride at the back of the bus. AAP Parent: "get over it"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A faulty analogy... I can see where you're going, but travel soccer is not public school. For one, it's optional and with few exceptions, kids are paying much more to play travel. Public school is taxpayer funded and a requirement for all. This makes the question of who is getting better resources in public school much more of an issue since resources are finite and must be shared.

This is precisely it. The travel soccer analogy is so tired, overused, and INACCURATE. Travel sports are privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don't care how kids are picked or sorted for privately funded activities. But I do care very much how my public tax dollars are being spent. I'm happy to spend them on services for special needs kids. But that's not what AAP is.

+1,000

Sports is a suitable analogy in response to the constantly off-key "my kid is marginalized!" shrieking. The private/public distinction is just an excuse to sidestep it. Go explain it to the taxpayers who don't even have kids. Crying about the significance of tax dollars just shows you don't know how government actually works.

No, actually it's not a suitable analogy at all. One is privately funded, the other is not. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

The thing is - the big complaints are not about funding or money - its about "my child feels bad" or "I feel bad" because my kids isn't in the higher group. AAP kids use the same facilities, the same resources- can you put a number on cost? Don't think so, its not about cost.

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1960 My child feels "bad" because they have to ride at the back of the bus. AAP Parent: "get over it"

1940: AAP parent: "Stop complaining, you're just mad that your child is a Jew."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A faulty analogy... I can see where you're going, but travel soccer is not public school. For one, it's optional and with few exceptions, kids are paying much more to play travel. Public school is taxpayer funded and a requirement for all. This makes the question of who is getting better resources in public school much more of an issue since resources are finite and must be shared.

This is precisely it. The travel soccer analogy is so tired, overused, and INACCURATE. Travel sports are privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don't care how kids are picked or sorted for privately funded activities. But I do care very much how my public tax dollars are being spent. I'm happy to spend them on services for special needs kids. But that's not what AAP is.

+1,000

Sports is a suitable analogy in response to the constantly off-key "my kid is marginalized!" shrieking. The private/public distinction is just an excuse to sidestep it. Go explain it to the taxpayers who don't even have kids. Crying about the significance of tax dollars just shows you don't know how government actually works.

No, actually it's not a suitable analogy at all. One is privately funded, the other is not. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

The thing is - the big complaints are not about funding or money - its about "my child feels bad" or "I feel bad" because my kids isn't in the higher group. AAP kids use the same facilities, the same resources- can you put a number on cost? Don't think so, its not about cost.

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1960 My child feels "bad" because they have to ride at the back of the bus. AAP Parent: "get over it"

1940: AAP parent: "Stop complaining, you're just mad that your child is a Jew."

Before your AAP parents start complaining. stop and realize how unbelievably arbitrary AAP is. As arbitrary as being born Jewish in 1940 or African American in 1960. Stop smelling your own assholes for one second and think about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A faulty analogy... I can see where you're going, but travel soccer is not public school. For one, it's optional and with few exceptions, kids are paying much more to play travel. Public school is taxpayer funded and a requirement for all. This makes the question of who is getting better resources in public school much more of an issue since resources are finite and must be shared.

This is precisely it. The travel soccer analogy is so tired, overused, and INACCURATE. Travel sports are privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don't care how kids are picked or sorted for privately funded activities. But I do care very much how my public tax dollars are being spent. I'm happy to spend them on services for special needs kids. But that's not what AAP is.

+1,000

Sports is a suitable analogy in response to the constantly off-key "my kid is marginalized!" shrieking. The private/public distinction is just an excuse to sidestep it. Go explain it to the taxpayers who don't even have kids. Crying about the significance of tax dollars just shows you don't know how government actually works.

No, actually it's not a suitable analogy at all. One is privately funded, the other is not. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

The thing is - the big complaints are not about funding or money - its about "my child feels bad" or "I feel bad" because my kids isn't in the higher group. AAP kids use the same facilities, the same resources- can you put a number on cost? Don't think so, its not about cost.

+1

1960 My child feels "bad" because they have to ride at the back of the bus. AAP Parent: "get over it"

1940: AAP parent: "Stop complaining, you're just mad that your child is a Jew."

Before your AAP parents start complaining. stop and realize how unbelievably arbitrary AAP is. As arbitrary as being born Jewish in 1940 or African American in 1960. Stop smelling your own assholes for one second and think about it.

A new low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A faulty analogy... I can see where you're going, but travel soccer is not public school. For one, it's optional and with few exceptions, kids are paying much more to play travel. Public school is taxpayer funded and a requirement for all. This makes the question of who is getting better resources in public school much more of an issue since resources are finite and must be shared.

This is precisely it. The travel soccer analogy is so tired, overused, and INACCURATE. Travel sports are privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don't care how kids are picked or sorted for privately funded activities. But I do care very much how my public tax dollars are being spent. I'm happy to spend them on services for special needs kids. But that's not what AAP is.

+1,000

Sports is a suitable analogy in response to the constantly off-key "my kid is marginalized!" shrieking. The private/public distinction is just an excuse to sidestep it. Go explain it to the taxpayers who don't even have kids. Crying about the significance of tax dollars just shows you don't know how government actually works.

No, actually it's not a suitable analogy at all. One is privately funded, the other is not. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

The thing is - the big complaints are not about funding or money - its about "my child feels bad" or "I feel bad" because my kids isn't in the higher group. AAP kids use the same facilities, the same resources- can you put a number on cost? Don't think so, its not about cost.

This is BS. The better teachers are in the AAP classes (you won't find any that aren't tenured). The AAP classes do not use clueless student teachers who are left on their own much of the time in upper grades. It's simply more and better for the pushy upper classes. Send your kids to private if you want segregation for your precious snowflake. We all got along just find in gen ed.

[Anonymous]

Please. Put yourself in the position of a motivated teacher. Would you rather have a class of bright kids with engaged parents or one full of the kids who didn't make the cut and are considered "lesser." It's obvious.

AAP kids get better teachers, much better teachers and the ones who aren't in AAP classes become burned out much more quickly.

Meanwhile, AAP kids develop an attitude that serves them poorly in the real world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please. Put yourself in the position of a motivated teacher. Would you rather have a class of bright kids with engaged parents or one full of the kids who didn't make the cut and are considered "lesser." It's obvious.

AAP kids get better teachers, much better teachers and the ones who aren't in AAP classes become burned out much more quickly.

Meanwhile, AAP kids develop an attitude that serves them poorly in the real world.

Many of them do, sadly. But this is mostly the fault of parents.

[Anonymous]

This is BS. The better teachers are in the AAP classes (you won't find any that aren't tenured). The AAP classes do not use clueless student teachers who are left on their own much of the time in upper grades. It's simply more and better for the pushy upper classes. Send your kids to private if you want segregation for your precious snowflake. We all got along just find in gen ed.

Egads, you're a creep and spouting complete lies. Our center teacher is in her third year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A faulty analogy... I can see where you're going, but travel soccer is not public school. For one, it's optional and with few exceptions, kids are paying much more to play travel. Public school is taxpayer funded and a requirement for all. This makes the question of who is getting better resources in public school much more of an issue since resources are finite and must be shared.

This is precisely it. The travel soccer analogy is so tired, overused, and INACCURATE. Travel sports are privately funded, not taxpayer funded. I don't care how kids are picked or sorted for privately funded activities. But I do care very much how my public tax dollars are being spent. I'm happy to spend them on services for special needs kids. But that's not what AAP is.

+1,000

Sports is a suitable analogy in response to the constantly off-key "my kid is marginalized!" shrieking. The private/public distinction is just an excuse to sidestep it. Go explain it to the taxpayers who don't even have kids. Crying about the significance of tax dollars just shows you don't know how government actually works.

No, actually it's not a suitable analogy at all. One is privately funded, the other is not. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

Yes, because civil rights and the systematic state sponsored degradation of a people = AAP. Mmmkay!

The thing is - the big complaints are not about funding or money - its about "my child feels bad" or "I feel bad" because my kids isn't in the higher group. AAP kids use the same facilities, the same resources- can you put a number on cost? Don't think so, its not about cost.

+1

1960 My child feels "bad" because they have to ride at the back of the bus. AAP Parent: "get over it"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please. Put yourself in the position of a motivated teacher. Would you rather have a class of bright kids with engaged parents or one full of the kids who didn't make the cut and are considered "lesser." It's obvious.

AAP kids get better teachers, much better teachers and the ones who aren't in AAP classes become burned out much more quickly.

Meanwhile, AAP kids develop an attitude that serves them poorly in the real world.

At our Center school, several AAP teachers "escaped" AAP by teaching in K-2 at the same elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This is BS. The better teachers are in the AAP classes (you won't find any that aren't tenured). The AAP classes do not use clueless student teachers who are left on their own much of the time in upper grades. It's simply more and better for the pushy upper classes. Send your kids to private if you want segregation for your precious snowflake. We all got along just find in gen ed.

Egads, you're a creep and spouting complete lies. Our center teacher is in her third year.

Virginia does not have teacher tenure.

[Anonymous]

The 2016-17 FCPS enrollment figures just came out. 740 of the 1258 students at Rocky Run are in AAP.

Either the program, the manner in which it is being administered, or both, are seriously screwed up. It's beyond outrageous that the roughly 500 non-AAP students at Rocky Run should be made to feel like leftovers at a neighborhood FCPS school.

Good riddance to Karen Garza for allowing this situation to arise, and doing nothing about it, and good luck to whoever replaces her in doing away with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 2016-17 FCPS enrollment figures just came out. 740 of the 1258 students at Rocky Run are in AAP.

Either the program, the manner in which it is being administered, or both, are seriously screwed up. It's beyond outrageous that the roughly 500 non-AAP students at Rocky Run should be made to feel like leftovers at a neighborhood FCPS school.

Good riddance to Karen Garza for allowing this situation to arise, and doing nothing about it, and good luck to whoever replaces her in doing away with it.

So dramatic. Those kids came from several different feeder schools. Non-AAP students can elect to take honors courses, no testing required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please. Put yourself in the position of a motivated teacher. Would you rather have a class of bright kids with engaged parents or one full of the kids who didn't make the cut and are considered "lesser." It's obvious.

AAP kids get better teachers, much better teachers and the ones who aren't in AAP classes become burned out much more quickly.

Meanwhile, AAP kids develop an attitude that serves them poorly in the real world.

At our Center school, several AAP teachers "escaped" AAP by teaching in K-2 at the same elementary school.

At our center, two AAP teachers complained to the principal that they wanted out of AAP because they couldn't take the entitlement attitude of many of the kids, which is definitely obvious. The next year, they got to teach Gen Ed again.

I wouldn't say AAP gets better teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 2016-17 FCPS enrollment figures just came out. 740 of the 1258 students at Rocky Run are in AAP.

Either the program, the manner in which it is being administered, or both, are seriously screwed up. It's beyond outrageous that the roughly 500 non-AAP students at Rocky Run should be made to feel like leftovers at a neighborhood FCPS school.

Good riddance to Karen Garza for allowing this situation to arise, and doing nothing about it, and good luck to whoever replaces her in doing away with it.

So dramatic. Those kids came from several different feeder schools. Non-AAP students can elect to take honors courses, no testing required.

Not the PP, but I completely agree with him/her. Where the kids came from has nothing to do with it. They are now at one school, and their numbers have overwhelmed the Gen Ed population. No school should have this dynamic, and yet there are several that do (Haycock, Colvin Run, etc.). These kids should be sent back to their base schools. AAP should be the exception, not the norm.